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Re: Welcome Simmons 

Post#1501 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:20 pm

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I surely WANT to see him in the summer league, but I can't think of an advantage to him or the team to have him play in summer league.

He's too good for summer league anyway.


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Every rookie does summer league. Even LeBron did it. Ben isn't too good for summer league. And why wouldn't it be an advantage to him or the team? Sitting a healthy player benefits no one.


He played already last year. Not playing summer league is not the same thing as "sitting a healthy player". Embiid isn't going to play summer league either.

There is no reason to play him in summer league. I get it. We want to watch him play, but from the Sixers perspective, there is no advantage.


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Many players play summer league more than once. Russell and Booker did. Simmons hasn't played in a game yet. He should play. And BC already said he may play. He didn't rule it out. There will probably be many rookies from last year's draft who will play in summer league again.
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Post#1502 » by Sportfan73 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:50 pm

CoreyGallagher wrote:We don't know, we don't even know if he's gong to require a second surgery yet.

My bet is no. I'm guessing his foot is at the same point that KDs and Paynes were at when they came back. They happen to rebreak there's so they are scared Simmons will do the same. He will be fine.


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Post#1503 » by nurseryc » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:46 pm

CoreyGallagher wrote:We don't know, we don't even know if he's gong to require a second surgery yet.



Which is my point. Why waste time pondering. Get the surgery done and fix the issue. If he has another fracture then that most certainly requires surgery to be fixed. It should be done now so he is ready for next season. There is no point to waiting to see and wasting time. The fracture needs to be fixed
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Post#1504 » by Simmons25 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:05 am

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CoreyGallagher wrote:We don't know, we don't even know if he's gong to require a second surgery yet.



Which is my point. Why waste time pondering. Get the surgery done and fix the issue. If he has another fracture then that most certainly requires surgery to be fixed. It should be done now so he is ready for next season. There is no point to waiting to see and wasting time. The fracture needs to be fixed


Who said he had another fracture. They said it hadn't fully healed yet and because another scan would be 4 weeks away there is no time left in the season for him to play. It could be fully healed in 4 weeks for all we know... but there was nothing to suggest he had done another fracture or needed surgery on this one.
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Post#1505 » by nurseryc » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:51 am

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CoreyGallagher wrote:We don't know, we don't even know if he's gong to require a second surgery yet.



Which is my point. Why waste time pondering. Get the surgery done and fix the issue. If he has another fracture then that most certainly requires surgery to be fixed. It should be done now so he is ready for next season. There is no point to waiting to see and wasting time. The fracture needs to be fixed


Who said he had another fracture. They said it hadn't fully healed yet and because another scan would be 4 weeks away there is no time left in the season for him to play. It could be fully healed in 4 weeks for all we know... but there was nothing to suggest he had done another fracture or needed surgery on this one.


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Post#1506 » by Ericb5 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:57 am

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Which is my point. Why waste time pondering. Get the surgery done and fix the issue. If he has another fracture then that most certainly requires surgery to be fixed. It should be done now so he is ready for next season. There is no point to waiting to see and wasting time. The fracture needs to be fixed


Who said he had another fracture. They said it hadn't fully healed yet and because another scan would be 4 weeks away there is no time left in the season for him to play. It could be fully healed in 4 weeks for all we know... but there was nothing to suggest he had done another fracture or needed surgery on this one.


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This is an anecdotal tweet that shouldn't have been made. It's misleading to the point of being worthless. Basically a non medical person relaying something to a non medical person.

Of course, this all should have been asked by the media at the press conference the other day, but Pompey needed to know about Splitter. Lol


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Post#1507 » by CoreyGallagher » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:00 pm

nurseryc wrote:John Barchard ✔ @JohnBarchard
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They're (Sixers management/owners) are the only ones that know anything, point is, your original questions are expecting us to know way more than we do or can know and also to make further assumptions.
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Post#1508 » by nurseryc » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:05 pm

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They're the only ones to know anything, point is, your original questions are expecting us to know way more than we do or can know and also to make further assumptions.


Fair call. I'd just like to know what made him make the statement about a new fracture and if that is indeed accurate or false.
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Post#1509 » by CoreyGallagher » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:07 pm

nurseryc wrote:Fair call. I'd just like to know what made him make the statement about a new fracture and if that is indeed accurate or false.

Because supposedly there is a fracture he just doesn't know if it's the same (slow healing) or new. Something he couldn't know without seeing past scans. He phrased it oddly, imo.
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Post#1510 » by nurseryc » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:11 pm

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nurseryc wrote:Fair call. I'd just like to know what made him make the statement about a new fracture and if that is indeed accurate or false.

Because supposedly there is a fracture he just doesn't know if it's the same (slow healing) or new. Something he couldn't know without seeing past scans. He phrased it oddly, imo.


Thanks for clarifying, much appreciated. Will this get clarified re if it's a past scan or something new. Surely this is information that should be released asap.
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Post#1511 » by CoreyGallagher » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:13 pm

nurseryc wrote:Thanks for clarifying, much appreciated. Will this get clarified re if it's a past scan or something new. Surely this is information that should be released asap.

You'd think, but this management has lied and kept fans in the dark about this from the get go. Hopefully somebody eventually breaks the story because it's information that should be out there.
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Post#1512 » by nurseryc » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:15 pm

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nurseryc wrote:Thanks for clarifying, much appreciated. Will this get clarified re if it's a past scan or something new. Surely this is information that should be released asap.

You'd think, but this management has lied and kept fans in the dark about this from the get go. Hopefully somebody eventually breaks the story because it's information that should be out there.


Agree. The last thing i want is the info to be released later down the track. Release it now, no matter how bad it is. If it is worst case scenario, so be it. Let's get the correction surgery done if it is required. Do it now, not later.
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Post#1513 » by nurseryc » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:35 pm

I hate being a pessimist but my gut instinct tells me something isn't right and a second surgery is required.
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Post#1514 » by kriss73 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:35 pm

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Who said he had another fracture. They said it hadn't fully healed yet and because another scan would be 4 weeks away there is no time left in the season for him to play. It could be fully healed in 4 weeks for all we know... but there was nothing to suggest he had done another fracture or needed surgery on this one.


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This is an anecdotal tweet that shouldn't have been made. It's misleading to the point of being worthless. Basically a non medical person relaying something to a non medical person.

Of course, this all should have been asked by the media at the press conference the other day, but Pompey needed to know about Splitter. Lol


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I asked in Pompey's weekly chat after BC adderessed the media if the Sixers thought another surgery will be needed.
Pompey didn't give a clear answer: he said that at this stage the team is still waiting for a "natural" healing.
Basically "we'll see".
So, one of the two:
- he knows nothing
- he know s too much to share
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Post#1515 » by nurseryc » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:44 pm

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Ericb5 wrote:
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John Barchard @JohnBarchard
Update: CT scan showed a fracture but unclear as to whether it’s new or old #Sixers
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This is an anecdotal tweet that shouldn't have been made. It's misleading to the point of being worthless. Basically a non medical person relaying something to a non medical person.

Of course, this all should have been asked by the media at the press conference the other day, but Pompey needed to know about Splitter. Lol


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I asked in Pompey's weekly chat after BC adderessed the media if the Sixers thought another surgery will be needed.
Pompey didn't give a clear answer: he said that at this stage the team is still waiting for a "natural" healing.
Basically "we'll see".
So, one of the two:
- he knows nothing
- he know s too much to share


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Post#1516 » by Ericb5 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:07 pm

kriss73 wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
nurseryc wrote:
John Barchard @JohnBarchard
Update: CT scan showed a fracture but unclear as to whether it’s new or old #Sixers
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3:18 PM - 24 Feb 2017
52 52 Retweets 38 38 likes
Read on Twitter


This is an anecdotal tweet that shouldn't have been made. It's misleading to the point of being worthless. Basically a non medical person relaying something to a non medical person.

Of course, this all should have been asked by the media at the press conference the other day, but Pompey needed to know about Splitter. Lol


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I asked in Pompey's weekly chat after BC adderessed the media if the Sixers thought another surgery will be needed.
Pompey didn't give a clear answer: he said that at this stage the team is still waiting for a "natural" healing.
Basically "we'll see".
So, one of the two:
- he knows nothing
- he know s too much to share


He knows nothing. If he knew something he would report on it.

Those chat's with Pompey are useless because what he thinks doesn't matter, and he is not curious enough to ask the questions to learn things that would move the ball.


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Post#1517 » by Lovetron Joe » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:40 pm

Simmons just had bone marrow injected into foot. How does that work?
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Post#1518 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:16 pm

SMTBSI wrote:Here's some evidence for my claim. Please note that these posts are in chronological order - literally switching back and forth between hyping and trashing Simmons, depending on what's most inflamatory.

jrob wrote:not long after he was injured and we knew it'd be a 12 week rehab, sources close to his camp leaked that he'd rather just sit out the entire year than play half a season and forfeit a chance at ROTY and the bonus that came with it in his shoe contract. People laughed about it at the time but it's looking like that leak was actually spot on. PHI "process", and Ben fanboys don't want to admit it but that's just what this team has become and who Ben is. It's not like it matters in the grand scheme of things except how obviously dishonest he and the team has been to the fans.

I thought it was obvious to everyone but man...going by the responses, some people are actually still willing to defend he and the team and believe this nonsense


jrob wrote:agreed, and it's a scumbag move by him too. And I think ownership is falling on the sword for him too. They're even going so far as agreeing to play the bad guy as he pretends to be upset about playing when in reality that decision was made the day the doctor told him it'd take him 12 weeks to heal. The only way I'll believe different is if he does in fact play. I feel for you fans, I'd be so pissed. I can't believe there are so many that take the official statements hook, line and sinker. Fans are so desperate (not just PHI fans but all fans of all team) to see their team successful they'll excuse this treatment from their teams and players. Such a shame for those guys that bought tickets specifically because Simmons was drafted.


jrob wrote:[Simmons is] a generational talent like AD, KD, Lebron. He really is going to be that special. It's just jealousy really especially from BOS homers who don't want to admit that you will be further along on your rebuild and thus closer to your next championship after next draft. You'll have your Big 3. You still have trade chips to sell off and cap money to spend. BOS is also golden but I'd take Embid and Simmons over any of our players.


jrob wrote:PHI will have two of these players if LAL don't finish top 3. Adding them to Simmons and Embid and wow. They're the one team I feel will threaten our future success the most.


jrob wrote:I've been his biggest supporter, defending him and his, imo, generational talent to all the haters on my board and elsewhere. ... This isn't how a generational talent acts. This isn't alpha. He's a fraud.


jrob wrote:This kid is such a beta fraud. The team is taking the bullets for him. You have to feel for the fans. They thought PHI drafted a generational talent. Instead you're finding out he's a selfish coward.


jrob wrote:If they came out and told you that it was his desire to stay out everyone would call him the fraud beta he is.


jrob wrote:The team can't let the fans know what a fraud he is because they need them to buy tickets to watch him play. If as I predict, Ben takes the first opportunity to leave PHI, expect all the dirt to come out on him. He's a selfish player. PHI fans deserve better.


So what you're saying is that @JRob is like a typical sports talk show host, or like Donald Trump?
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Post#1519 » by Arsenal » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:20 pm

Lovetron Joe wrote:Simmons just had bone marrow injected into foot. How does that work?


Basically they hope that certain cells in the bone marrow help the healing process. The fracture site in a Jones fracture is tricky because it doesn't naturally get a lot of blood flow. So this is an attempt to directly inject blood into the area. And marrow is thought to have even better healing properties than regular blood.

I assume if this doesn't work, then in another month or two he'll get another surgery, which will be a bone graft.
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Post#1520 » by KKell2507 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:32 pm

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Lovetron Joe wrote:Simmons just had bone marrow injected into foot. How does that work?


Basically they hope that certain cells in the bone marrow help the healing process. The fracture site in a Jones fracture is tricky because it doesn't naturally get a lot of blood flow. So this is an attempt to directly inject blood into the area. And marrow is thought to have even better healing properties than regular blood.

I assume if this doesn't work, then in another month or two he'll get another surgery, which will be a bone graft.


Yeah from what I know about Bone marrow procedures is that it helps speed up the process of healing(but not something you do unless its truly needed). Actually may prove that Sixers management is not lying about his foot, and that it simply isnt fully healed. Like you said jones fractures are tricky. Best case scenario is that bone marrow works and in about a month or so, they find that his foot reacted well to it and it has helped the final healing.

Lets hope it helps. Our medical team could sure use something to go right these days.

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