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Paul George is shooting 25 percent from 3 in his last 13 games.
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76ciology wrote:Paul George is shooting 25 percent from 3 in his last 13 games.
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He's also in his mid 30s so yeah... He's Philly bound.
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76ciology wrote:Paul George is shooting 25 percent from 3 in his last 13 games.
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Paul George was a great, great player. Bringing him in here will signal the death knell for the Embiid era Sixers.
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Thunder waived Poku... would be amazing if we got him.
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eyeatoma wrote:Thunder waived Poku... would be amazing if we got him.
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Well that's disturbing.
Hope they are exaggerating, but with our medical staff, they can mess up a wet dream
Hope they are exaggerating, but with our medical staff, they can mess up a wet dream
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mjkvol wrote:76ciology wrote:Paul George is shooting 25 percent from 3 in his last 13 games.
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Paul George was a great, great player. Bringing him in here will signal the death knell for the Embiid era Sixers.
That’s who Morey wants. And he would cost nothing but cash. In theory he gives you what you are missing.
However he is 34 and injury prone. Prime Jordan ain’t out there and even if he was he’s not coming to Philly. There is going to be some amount of settling, no way around it.
As long as the plan does not include Tobias in any way except a possible S&T.
The alternative is rebuilding, and no one around here seems to be ready for that.
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ivysixer2000 wrote:Well that's disturbing.
Hope they are exaggerating, but with our medical staff, they can mess up a wet dream
I mean, they were risking playing Haliburton 20 minutes with an injury for several games so he can get to 65 and get his super max.
Eventually, the rule is gonna end the career of someone. I understand that the league wants the players to play, but max contracts should not be tied to acolates.
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Areas to focus on during this stretch without Embiid:
- Develop a team for non-Embiid minutes.
- Cultivate Maxey's ability to be a late-game scorer.
- Establish reliable scoring options outside of Embiid for the playoffs.
- Enhance our wings' defensive capabilities by giving them minutes against star guards like Mitchell, Garland, Lillard, Brunson, and star wings like Giannis and Tatum.
- Create a solid three-man rotation at the 2-3-4 positions.
- Define roles for the 10-player deep roster.
- Develop advanced defensive switch and zone schemes for the playoffs.
- Foster the growth of KJ Martin and Council into reliable 4s to counter Oubre and Tobias's high variance games.
- Develop Bamba and Reed into reliable backup centers.
- Develop a team for non-Embiid minutes.
- Cultivate Maxey's ability to be a late-game scorer.
- Establish reliable scoring options outside of Embiid for the playoffs.
- Enhance our wings' defensive capabilities by giving them minutes against star guards like Mitchell, Garland, Lillard, Brunson, and star wings like Giannis and Tatum.
- Create a solid three-man rotation at the 2-3-4 positions.
- Define roles for the 10-player deep roster.
- Develop advanced defensive switch and zone schemes for the playoffs.
- Foster the growth of KJ Martin and Council into reliable 4s to counter Oubre and Tobias's high variance games.
- Develop Bamba and Reed into reliable backup centers.
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Regarding Paul George’s shooting, I think that's why we have to balance 3-point shooting and shots in the paint and play more like the Nuggets than the Celtics. Unless you have all-time great shooters, it's really hard to rely solely on shooters. The Rockets did it once with their 3-point heavy game, and it hurt them in the playoffs, as it did for us last season. Most of the available best shooters, George Niang or Sam Merrill, are reliable, but you would sacrifice aspects of the game like rebounding and defense just to play them.
With a 4-out offense almost every possession for 48 minutes, the paint is always open, and we should take advantage of that. There are plenty of opportunities for guys like Oubre, KJ Martin, and Council to score points in the paint with the defense gravitating towards the elbow (Embiid) or perimeter (Hield and Maxey).
With a 4-out offense almost every possession for 48 minutes, the paint is always open, and we should take advantage of that. There are plenty of opportunities for guys like Oubre, KJ Martin, and Council to score points in the paint with the defense gravitating towards the elbow (Embiid) or perimeter (Hield and Maxey).
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I find that scoring becomes more challenging as the game nears its end. Typically, defenses play more relaxed early on, which is when we often rely on dumping the ball to Embiid for scoring. Teams tend not to play tight and physical defense during this stage to avoid foul trouble, with the referees also influencing the defensive intensity.
I'm thinking, why don't we run plays for Tobi and Oubre during this part of the game? That way, Maxey/Hield and Embiid can conserve their energy for when the defense tightens later on.
As the defense tightens, we can gradually shift towards letting Maxey/Hield lead our offense. And if the defense ramps up again, that's when we let Embiid take over.
This approach mirrors how I see the Celtics achieve a balanced offense. Denver also follows a similar pattern with Jokic prioritizing getting others involved over individual scoring. Once everyone on the team is a threat, it forces the defense to second-guess sending help.
I'm thinking, why don't we run plays for Tobi and Oubre during this part of the game? That way, Maxey/Hield and Embiid can conserve their energy for when the defense tightens later on.
As the defense tightens, we can gradually shift towards letting Maxey/Hield lead our offense. And if the defense ramps up again, that's when we let Embiid take over.
This approach mirrors how I see the Celtics achieve a balanced offense. Denver also follows a similar pattern with Jokic prioritizing getting others involved over individual scoring. Once everyone on the team is a threat, it forces the defense to second-guess sending help.
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In the small sample size of the last 5 games, the biggest difference maker in offensive rating is Kelly Oubre. The team scores 115 ORTG on court with him compared to 105 ORTG off court.
One of the biggest difference makers on defense is Mo Bamba, with a 101 DRtg on court versus 112 DRtg off court. However, the offense is 8 points worse per 100 possessions with him on the court.
Our top two best 5-man units are T. Harris - K. Oubre Jr. - B. Hield - T. Maxey - P. Reed with a +12 NetRtg, and K. Oubre Jr. - B. Hield - M. Bamba - T. Maxey - K. Martin with a +17 NetRtg.
Maybe we should start Oubre and Tobias going forward, then sub in Tobias and Reed for K Mart and Bamba?
One of the biggest difference makers on defense is Mo Bamba, with a 101 DRtg on court versus 112 DRtg off court. However, the offense is 8 points worse per 100 possessions with him on the court.
Our top two best 5-man units are T. Harris - K. Oubre Jr. - B. Hield - T. Maxey - P. Reed with a +12 NetRtg, and K. Oubre Jr. - B. Hield - M. Bamba - T. Maxey - K. Martin with a +17 NetRtg.
Maybe we should start Oubre and Tobias going forward, then sub in Tobias and Reed for K Mart and Bamba?
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the_process wrote:mjkvol wrote:76ciology wrote:Paul George is shooting 25 percent from 3 in his last 13 games.
Future sixer confirmed
Paul George was a great, great player. Bringing him in here will signal the death knell for the Embiid era Sixers.
That’s who Morey wants. And he would cost nothing but cash. In theory he gives you what you are missing.
However he is 34 and injury prone. Prime Jordan ain’t out there and even if he was he’s not coming to Philly. There is going to be some amount of settling, no way around it.
As long as the plan does not include Tobias in any way except a possible S&T.
The alternative is rebuilding, and no one around here seems to be ready for that.
I don't buy into the "only alternative" limitations everyone wants to place on an off season still months away. We always act as if we know exactly who will and won't be available, yet virtually every off season players become available that no one saw coming, which rewards keeping your powder dry as opposed to doing something "right now!".
Not saying you are saying this, but this notion of everything already being written in stone as to what moves can be made months before we see what will actually be available just gets really old after awhile.
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76ciology wrote:In the small sample size of the last 5 games, the biggest difference maker in offensive rating is Kelly Oubre. The team scores 115 ORTG on court with him compared to 105 ORTG off court.
One of the biggest difference makers on defense is Mo Bamba, with a 101 DRtg on court versus 112 DRtg off court. However, the offense is 8 points worse per 100 possessions with him on the court.
Our top two best 5-man units are T. Harris - K. Oubre Jr. - B. Hield - T. Maxey - P. Reed with a +12 NetRtg, and K. Oubre Jr. - B. Hield - M. Bamba - T. Maxey - K. Martin with a +17 NetRtg.
Maybe we should start Oubre and Tobias going forward, then sub in Tobias and Reed for K Mart and Bamba?
This, people don't appreciate how good Oubre has been, they think he is this chucker with zero IQ.
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Paul George is possibly the most gifted talent of the 2010s and has had zero playoff success or accomplishment to show for it. The lack of intangible "it factor" make it hard for me to believe he's the missing piece. Especially at age 34.
I would throw feelers out to him to see where his head is at contract-wise, but that's it. The moment he says he wants a multiyear megadeal, I hang up.
I would throw feelers out to him to see where his head is at contract-wise, but that's it. The moment he says he wants a multiyear megadeal, I hang up.
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Murray_17 wrote:ivysixer2000 wrote:Well that's disturbing.
Hope they are exaggerating, but with our medical staff, they can mess up a wet dream
I mean, they were risking playing Haliburton 20 minutes with an injury for several games so he can get to 65 and get his super max.
Eventually, the rule is gonna end the career of someone. I understand that the league wants the players to play, but max contracts should not be tied to acolates.
They should get rid of the super max rules & just make all players eligible for it. They invented it to create a mechanism for teams to keep their homegrown talent but instead it’s just create an increasing complicated system of bad incentives.
It also serves as a way for owners to protect themselves from overpaying for a fringe star after we saw some terrible contracts in the 2000s. We should abolish all rules that are designed to protected owners from themselves.
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Against the Bucks, who will they assign Dame to defend in our starting 5? Maxey?
If we have Oubre or Batum defending Dame, can we just switch the two-man game between Dame and Giannis?
If we have Oubre or Batum defending Dame, can we just switch the two-man game between Dame and Giannis?
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Kobblehead wrote:Paul George is possibly the most gifted talent of the 2010s and has had zero playoff success or accomplishment to show for it. The lack of intangible "it factor" make it hard for me to believe he's the missing piece. Especially at age 34.
I would throw feelers out to him to see where his head is at contract-wise, but that's it. The moment he says he wants a multiyear megadeal, I hang up.
We just need three good seasons from him. He’s a top-10 player based on multiple metrics like EPM, RAPM, and DARKO. He’s also a plug-and-play player, making it easy to find a fifth guy on the team.
Maxey Hield Paul George ?? Embiid
Morey can easily sleepwalk and find a good player to round out that starting 5 and give us a 8 to 10 man deep team with minimum contracts and 2nd rounders like how he did this season.
I don't think Morey can pass it up. I think Morey is going to max him out if possible for three years until 2026-2027 when Embiid's contract runs out.
Another thing to consider is, "What's the alternative choice?" Is there a better player than Paul George in free agency? Will signing two guys like Bruce Brown and Jalen Smith for $20 million each for three years be better?
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George being a willing 3pt shooter should keep him useful even as he ages out
just think LA will just pay him if it comes to that tho
just think LA will just pay him if it comes to that tho
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