Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V

[Tomjas]

While I agree with you, Ben's upside is what allures teams. Additionally, he is the first marketable All-Star that would be on the Pacers since Paul George.

LeVert, Sabonis, Ben, Turner, and Brissett would be enough to make them a top 5 seed in the East.

You’re not wrong, which is why I could see something like Brogdon and like two picks for Simmons. But you’ve got guys on here suggesting close to Harden Level packages for him, throwing in multiple pick swaps, the whole nine. Hell, Ben’s value wasn’t even that high before his latest meltdown, it’s just ridiculously homery at this point. Teams don’t care that we’re in a tough spot, that Joel’s window is closing, or that he’s our last chip to try to parlay in to a championship, his worth is his worth.

It’s getting annoying as hell. They aren’t “holding out for a superstar” and they also aren’t straight up holding him all year. Morey will pivot, start listening to offers, get some semblance of a bidding war going and move him for a pretty decent package before opening night.

Harden and Butler were moved within the first 10 games

If Ben is still on the Sixers approaching the deadline, there’s very little chance that Morey will be

[sixers4real]

You’re not wrong, which is why I could see something like Brogdon and like two picks for Simmons. But you’ve got guys on here suggesting close to Harden Level packages for him, throwing in multiple pick swaps, the whole nine. Hell, Ben’s value wasn’t even that high before his latest meltdown, it’s just ridiculously homery at this point. Teams don’t care that we’re in a tough spot, that Joel’s window is closing, or that he’s our last chip to try to parlay in to a championship, his worth is his worth.

It’s getting annoying as hell. They aren’t “holding out for a superstar” and they also aren’t straight up holding him all year. Morey will pivot, start listening to offers, get some semblance of a bidding war going and move him for a pretty decent package before opening night.

1000%.

So he’s not listening to the offers as of now? And he hasn’t been listening over the past two months? But he will before the opening night?

[Embiid P]

I'm surprised that thus far, nobody has included McConnell in a trade proposal to Indiana.

[sixers4real]

I'm surprised that thus far, nobody has included McConnell in a trade proposal to Indiana.

KramerDSP did on page 75

[Sportfan73]

It’s getting annoying as hell. They aren’t “holding out for a superstar” and they also aren’t straight up holding him all year. Morey will pivot, start listening to offers, get some semblance of a bidding war going and move him for a pretty decent package before opening night.

1000%.

So he’s not listening to the offers as of now? And he hasn’t been listening over the past two months? But he will before the opening night?

That’s almost exactly how windhorst worded it when he brought up Indiana

[Stanford]

I'm surprised that thus far, nobody has included McConnell in a trade proposal to Indiana.

I've seen a bunch

[Embiid P]

I'm surprised that thus far, nobody has included McConnell in a trade proposal to Indiana.

KramerDSP did on page 75

I see it now. Thanks.

[Slacktard]

1000%.

So he’s not listening to the offers as of now? And he hasn’t been listening over the past two months? But he will before the opening night?

That’s almost exactly how windhorst worded it when he brought up Indiana

Windhorst is a mouthpiece for Klutch so anything he says is just parroting what they want him to put out there.

[sixers4real]

I really believe Morey has a list of players that will make us contenders. My guess would be it something like:

Lillard, Beal, Ingram, Fox, Halliburton, J.Brown, Lavine, Edwards.

I don’t think any of these players will be available before the opening night, so I’d guess no deal will be made before October 18, unless some team offers multiple unprotected FRPs and swaps for Simmons, that Morey can evenentually trade for one of the players on this list.

However, some of these players can be available late December/January, and that’s when the deal seems more likely to me.

[Sportfan73]

I really believe Morey has a list of players that will make us contenders. My guess would be it something like:

Lillard, Beal, Ingram, Fox, Halliburton, J.Brown, Lavine, Edwards.

I don’t think any of these players will be available before the opening night, so I’d guess no deal will be made before October 18, unless some team offers multiple unprotected FRPs and swaps for Simmons, that Morey can evenentually trade for one of the players on this list.

However, some of these players can be available late December/January, and that’s when the deal seems more likely to me.

None of those guys will be available like at all

[Sportfan73]

You guys are getting more and more delusional. The time has past and may not have ever existed on getting any of those guys. And morey isn’t taking a pick package

[Sportfan73]

So he’s not listening to the offers as of now? And he hasn’t been listening over the past two months? But he will before the opening night?

That’s almost exactly how windhorst worded it when he brought up Indiana

Windhorst is a mouthpiece for Klutch so anything he says is just parroting what they want him to put out there.

Him saying that Indiana would be willing to offer a strong package when morey decides he wants to start listening to offers again and that they are a dark horse sounds like it has nothing to do with Klutch and he only said that after Lowe also said Indiana is his guess. There’s context here it wasn’t a shameless Klutch plug or even windys segment.

[Sportfan73]

Can’t wait for everyone to be like “I’m out on Morey he’s washed for not getting 150 first round picks and an all nba player for Ben he played himself” when no offers were ever there for anything close.

[sixers4real]

I really believe Morey has a list of players that will make us contenders. My guess would be it something like:

Lillard, Beal, Ingram, Fox, Halliburton, J.Brown, Lavine, Edwards.

I don’t think any of these players will be available before the opening night, so I’d guess no deal will be made before October 18, unless some team offers multiple unprotected FRPs and swaps for Simmons, that Morey can evenentually trade for one of the players on this list.

However, some of these players can be available late December/January, and that’s when the deal seems more likely to me.

None of those guys will be available like at all

I’d bet at least one of these players will get traded within a year.

[Sportfan73]

I really believe Morey has a list of players that will make us contenders. My guess would be it something like:

Lillard, Beal, Ingram, Fox, Halliburton, J.Brown, Lavine, Edwards.

I don’t think any of these players will be available before the opening night, so I’d guess no deal will be made before October 18, unless some team offers multiple unprotected FRPs and swaps for Simmons, that Morey can evenentually trade for one of the players on this list.

However, some of these players can be available late December/January, and that’s when the deal seems more likely to me.

None of those guys will be available like at all

I’d bet at least one of these players will get traded within a year.

If we wait a year Ben’s value will be .10 cents on the dollar

[sixers4real]

You guys are getting more and more delusional. The time has past and may not have ever existed on getting any of those guys. And morey isn’t taking a pick package

That’s just your opinion, you can’t say that as a fact.

[Sportfan73]

You guys are getting more and more delusional. The time has past and may not have ever existed on getting any of those guys. And morey isn’t taking a pick package

That’s just your opinion, you can’t say that as a fact.

Okay so what if I am right?

[sixers4real]

None of those guys will be available like at all

I’d bet at least one of these players will get traded within a year.

If we wait a year Ben’s value will be .10 cents on the dollar

I didn’t say that one of this players will be moved for Simmons within a year, I just replied to you saying none of those players being available like at all.

[Mik317]

Can’t wait for everyone to be like “I’m out on Morey he’s washed for not getting 150 first round picks and an all nba player for Ben he played himself” when no offers were ever there for anything close.

i mean even if he got that...there would be some still upset.

IMO nothing we do with this Ben trade will make us contenders.

so its more about getting longterm value and trying to really go for it the following year with the off chance that injury/chaos to other teams might give us a flukey chance at a run....which is always possible.

That doesn't mean tank and cry in the corner either. It is simply the reality of the situation. Due to the mistakes of the past finally catching up to us, we have to build this **** brick by brick...which takes time. And I know I know...bu-but Embiid's timeline doe. 1. I dont think its as dire as some act. 2. Again nothing right now puts us into contender status asap....so you have to wait anyway. The bottom line is that if Tobias wasn't our 3rd option; Ben wasn't in his feelings; the FO past and present didn't sniff glue...then the team would be able to go for crazier and more exicting moves....but thats not the case...so throwing more **** at the wall in the name of looking like you are all in seems unwise to me.

Its honestly why I think the theorized Spurs package is the best option. No star level guys but movable players and picks will help the retool..but those guys also still have some theoretical upside as well.

That or we bank on Ben being our Bledsoe and whoever we get for him is our Jrue....that however is just not how things work for this city lol.

[sixers4real]

You guys are getting more and more delusional. The time has past and may not have ever existed on getting any of those guys. And morey isn’t taking a pick package

That’s just your opinion, you can’t say that as a fact.

Okay so what if I am right?

Then you’d be right, if not, I’d be right. We’ll see.

We’ll find out in the next 16 days. You’ve already told that a deal will be made before the opening night. I don’t think so.