Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho

Kobblehead · Post #1521 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:28 pm

Thybulle is unplayable offensively. Reddish is a really good spacer. Reddish and Green would be an amazing 3&D combo.

Black Mage · Post #1522 » by **Black Mage** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:25 am

Eyeamok wrote:
Jhawk03 wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
Have you ever played sport?

Absolutely, anyone else? Now's the time

Just this morning I was thinking what I would like for the holidays....and yes a bag of humiliation was on the top of my list. So count me in.

Jumping in on this, tho JHawk should realize that it's always a Wildcat embarrassing a JayHawk despite all their cheating.

PhillyFan11 · Post #1523 » by **PhillyFan11** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:32 am

Sixers
Trade: Ben, Thybulle, Springer
Receive: Jaylen Brown and TJ Warren

Pacers
Trade: Sabonis, Duarte, Warren
Receive: Simmons, Springer

Celtics
Trade: Brown
Receive: Sabonis, Duarte, Thybulle

Feel like that actually helps all parties, but the Pacers are getting off light. Possibly a heavily protected 1st going to both Sixers and Celtics? It would for sure hurt some to trade Thybulle to the Celtics tho

Black Mage · Post #1524 » by **Black Mage** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:50 am

PhillyFan11 wrote:Sixers
Trade: Ben, Thybulle, Springer
Receive: Jaylen Brown and TJ Warren

Pacers
Trade: Sabonis, Duarte, Warren
Receive: Simmons, Springer

Celtics
Trade: Brown
Receive: Sabonis, Duarte, Thybulle

Feel like that actually helps all parties, but the Pacers are getting off light. Possibly a heavily protected 1st going to both Sixers and Celtics? It would for sure hurt some to trade Thybulle to the Celtics tho

If I was Celtics, I'd want Turner before Sabonis and Thybulle can't play with Smart. I would probably see Levert being added with Joe or Reed going to Pacers.

Post #1525 » by **zimpy27** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:43 am

Deal or no deal?

Philly get Fox, Barnes, Hield
Fox, Curry, Green, Barnes, Embiid -- Maxey, Thybulle, Hield, Niang, Drummond

Kings get Simmons, Harris, Milton
Davion, Hali, Simmons, Harris, Holmes -- Milton, TD2, Harkless, Bagley, Len

76ciology · Post #1526 » by **76ciology** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:57 am

zimpy27 wrote:Deal or no deal?

Philly get Fox, Barnes, Hield
Fox, Curry, Green, Barnes, Embiid -- Maxey, Thybulle, Hield, Niang, Drummond

Kings get Simmons, Harris, Milton
Davion, Hali, Simmons, Harris, Holmes -- Milton, TD2, Harkless, Bagley, Len

Deal

Sixteen · Post #1527 » by **Sixteen** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:10 am

I'm over fox. Doesn't look like a different maker and looks to have regressed this year. Kings played hardball over Fox for whatever reason , so they should keep him and continue to lose

76ciology · Post #1528 » by **76ciology** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:12 am

Im not a fan of Fox. But I know he can be better than who he is right now. And if I dont want him, I probably can ship him to Ingram or someone later down the road

We’re not winning the championship this year anyway.

Mik317 · Post #1529 » by **Mik317** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:25 pm

that really is what it comes down to.

everybody trying to fix everything with one trade are going to be disappointed. Still possible that adding a few pieces w/ a lot of luck (via other teams **** up, getting hurt, fluke performances, ect.) can still end in a championship run...but nothing that can be planned for IMO. So the key with this deal is to not cap yourself for the future and be able to adjust accordantly. Despite how this team looks like a lottery team when the big potato is out, they are 12-5 w/ him somehow....as he hasn't even been that good himself IMO. Getting to a level that is a .500 team at least might be interesting I guess.

Post #1530 » by **Stanford** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:32 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Deal or no deal?

Philly get Fox, Barnes, Hield
Fox, Curry, Green, Barnes, Embiid -- Maxey, Thybulle, Hield, Niang, Drummond

Kings get Simmons, Harris, Milton
Davion, Hali, Simmons, Harris, Holmes -- Milton, TD2, Harkless, Bagley, Len

I think all of us would do this

Negrodamus · Post #1531 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:39 pm

76ciology wrote:Im not a fan of Fox. But I know he can be better than who he is right now. And if I dont want him, I probably can ship him to Ingram or someone later down the road

We’re not winning the championship this year anyway.

He's actually playing decently in the last 10 games. I think the volatility in Sacramento this year likely has a hand in his poor start.

Negrodamus · Post #1532 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:00 pm

Watch on YouTube

Obviously not great that he chokes in the end, but Maxey simply doesn't cook like Fox does. The entire defense is in disarray when Fox takes his man off the dribble. He's also shooting lights out inside of the arc. If Doc reined in his step back threes and he & Embiid created a rapport running a DHO (which Fox shows promise running), then they could be an unstoppable foul drawing machine.

the_process · Post #1533 » by **the_process** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:27 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Deal or no deal?

Philly get Fox, Barnes, Hield
Fox, Curry, Green, Barnes, Embiid -- Maxey, Thybulle, Hield, Niang, Drummond

Kings get Simmons, Harris, Milton
Davion, Hali, Simmons, Harris, Holmes -- Milton, TD2, Harkless, Bagley, Len

Deal.

Other variations that are also acceptable:

Hield and Bagley for Harris
Hield and Barnes for Harris and Curry
Hield, Barnes, and Bagley for Harris and Curry
Haliburton, Barnes, and Bagley for Simmons

Post #1534 » by **Stanford** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:33 pm

I do think Tobias would make the Kings better, strangely.

Samson · Post #1535 » by **Samson** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:34 pm

"Lakers interested in Ben Simmons..." ===

"LeBron wants everyone in the world because he can't win without adding every all-star caliber player in the known and unknown universe..."

And there is no way in Sheol Hades that we're trading Simmons to LA.

the_process · Post #1536 » by **the_process** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:56 pm

Samson wrote:"Lakers interested in Ben Simmons..." ===

"LeBron wants everyone in the world because he can't win without adding every all-star caliber player in the known and unknown universe..."

And there is no way in Sheol Hades that we're trading Simmons to LA.

If the Lakers want to offer AD, I'd certainly do that. I can't believe Morey would pass on that, either.

the_process · Post #1537 » by **the_process** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:58 pm

Stanford wrote:I do think Tobias would make the Kings better, strangely.

Me too! In a "thank God he's not a Sixer anymore" kind of way.

Samson · Post #1538 » by **Samson** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:18 pm

the_process wrote:
Samson wrote:"Lakers interested in Ben Simmons..." ===

"LeBron wants everyone in the world because he can't win without adding every all-star caliber player in the known and unknown universe..."

And there is no way in Sheol Hades that we're trading Simmons to LA.

If the Lakers want to offer AD, I'd certainly do that. I can't believe Morey would pass on that, either.

That.... is unlikely....

Murray_17 · Post #1539 » by **Murray_17** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:24 pm

I wonder if we could get Grant.

His numbers are pedestrian but is basically what we need right now outside of the playmaking, his max next year is reasonable and his numbers would probably be better without defenses focusing on him non stop.

Next year we are probably gonna unload that Tobias contract too so i don't mind paying him

spikeslovechild · Post #1540 » by **spikeslovechild** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:25 pm

Samson wrote:
the_process wrote:
Samson wrote:"Lakers interested in Ben Simmons..." ===

"LeBron wants everyone in the world because he can't win without adding every all-star caliber player in the known and unknown universe..."

And there is no way in Sheol Hades that we're trading Simmons to LA.

If the Lakers want to offer AD, I'd certainly do that. I can't believe Morey would pass on that, either.

That.... is unlikely....

Lakers have literally noone else of value and the contracts have to work.

So why express interest otherwise? Do they think THT and westbrick gets them Simmons?