Okafor trade talk: Will he be traded by the deadline?

[Kobblehead]

I didn't know Gonzo left Philly and moved out to Cali with his wife. I guess he'll check in from time to time like that Ringer article.

[Kolkmania]

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Yada yada yada... treating players like assets.

What a cheap piece, "sources speculate", "The Nuggets and Blazers weren’t pursuing Okafor. The Bulls likely aren’t either", despite multiple Bulls insiders reporting talks Kevin O'Connor thinks it's just Sixers leaking information to stir interest?

I like John Gonzalez' piece much better.

[CoreyGallagher]

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[FlightBrothers]

I really hope all this does not mean that Bryan will now look to trade Noel since Okafor has no trade value. This is just so bizarre this whole situation. I have this gut feeling BC feels like he HAS TO make a move to clear the logjam and now that Okafor has slowed down he will focus on moving Noel

More importantly on a side bar as much as I love winning I really want a stinking top 4 pick in this draft and I am tired of these wins...lol

I want one of in no order (Ball, Fultz, Jackson and Isaac). I don't want Monk to be our "prize" for another awful season

[phillychuck]

"This is the first time I've seen something like this in my years in the league," Nerlens Noel on Jahlil Okafor trade situation."

All 3 1/2 years?

[XDevilBoiX]

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Won't be the first or last time either. His tenure here will be full of negative press.

[Negrodamus]

"This is the first time I've seen something like this in my years in the league," Nerlens Noel on Jahlil Okafor trade situation."

All 3 1/2 years?

To be fair, he's probably seen a career's worth of trades during his time here.

[XDevilBoiX]

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Yada yada yada... treating players like assets.

Maybe it was a ploy but he was also trying to deflect heat off of himself for the Embiid lies. Shame this man put a kid thru this freaking mess that he caused himself. If it was any other job, he would've been fired. Only here you get to lie and keep your job, totally pathetic that Josh Harris is letting this clown get away with it.

[Mik317]

Jah should be applauded for the way he has approached this **** show. Class Act from him all around

[Bum Adebayo]

I really hope all this does not mean that Bryan will now look to trade Noel since Okafor has no trade value.

Yes please! we need to trade both, no max for NOel and no tank commander in Okafor.

[PhilasFinest]

I really hope all this does not mean that Bryan will now look to trade Noel since Okafor has no trade value. This is just so bizarre this whole situation. I have this gut feeling BC feels like he HAS TO make a move to clear the logjam and now that Okafor has slowed down he will focus on moving Noel

More importantly on a side bar as much as I love winning I really want a stinking top 4 pick in this draft and I am tired of these wins...lol

I want one of in no order (Ball, Fultz, Jackson and Isaac). I don't want Monk to be our "prize" for another awful season

If Okafor's value gets you pretty much nothing in return, why wouldn't you look to move Noel (pending RFA) if the value was there?

I understand we all like Noel and his defensive impact. I like Noel and want him to remain a Sixer.....but if your sold on Joel Embiid being 1 of your franchise players, paying someone 20+ million a year to be a backup/insurance policy doesn't really project as a slam dunk move long term, both for the Sixers as a team and Noel as a player. I know we have deep pockets now, but you have to constantly think ahead.

Embiid is going to require a max extension, and thats soon.
Your hoping Ben Simmons will require one down the line.
Your probably TRYING to get some type of all star caliber player here within the next 2 offseason if possible via FA/Trade. Thats gonna req. MAX money.
Covington is going to require new contract soon.

All those things add up quickly. Make a poor judgement on an extension and you could be looking at a OKC situation down the line.

I am 100% fine with keeping Noel and extending him......but IF he can get you good value in return, its something you have to consider.You also need to factor in Nerlens' personal assessment of himself into the equation. Just because we may want to keep him and are ok with paying him, he could still choose to try and leave for a better opportunity elsewhere as a starting center. He is being a good sport about things now and saying the right things....but long term I do not see a young kid with his talent being ok with watching the team possibly succeed off the bench.

[smittybanton]

Smitty's Tea Leaf Reader:

Okafor is back with the Sixers because Toronto outbid the Celtics for Serge Ibaka which returned Boston to the front of the Jimmy Butler line and knocked out the Nuggets bid which would have included Okafor and the Sixers getting Mudiay.

Never believed we were interested in Denzel Valentine, nor do we need more future first round picks.

Keep Okafor and use him to trade up in the draft, since the top ten in 2017 does not include any centers.

Cant wait until all these teams who don't need centers in the modern nba try to stop Joel Embiid down low.

Bryan Colangelo has never worked in a media market as big as Philadelphia. In addition to sheer size, Toronto and Phoenix simply do not have the same type of fan base. Clearly, he has not figured that out yet.

[PhilasFinest]

Smitty's Tea Leaf Reader:

Okafor is back with the Sixers because Toronto outbid the Celtics for Serge Ibaka which returned Boston to the front of the Jimmy Butler line and knocked out the Nuggets bid which would have included Okafor and the Sixers getting Mudiay.

Never believed we were interested in Denzel Valentine, nor do we need more future first round picks.

Keep Okafor and use him to trade up in the draft, since the top ten in 2017 does not include any centers.

Cant wait until all these teams who don't need centers in the modern nba try to stop Joel Embiid down low.

Bryan Colangelo has never worked in a media market as big as Philadelphia. In addition to sheer size, Toronto and Phoenix simply do not have the same type of fan base. Clearly, he has not figured that out yet.

If that is supposed to be a selling point on teams trading for Okafor, its a pretty bad one.If a team needs a center to try and stop Embiid or other NBA bigs, Okafor isn't stopping any of them and is probably one of the last choices teams would look for.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Smitty's Tea Leaf Reader:
Toronto and Phoenix simply do not have the same type of fan base. Clearly, he has not figured that out yet.

Yeah, I lived out in Phoenix during the Barkley era. Coincidentally I moved from Bethlehem PA to Phoenix the year he was traded so I basically became a Suns fan for a while. The fan base out there is quite different from the Philadelphia one. A lot more laid back, a lot more forgiving from what I remember. Great supportive fans out there though, lots of fun. Suns games were constantly sold out when I was out there. BC is definitely dealing with an entirely different species of fans in Philly. Either way, I really don't like the guy. His dad did ok running things in Phoenix back in the day, but this latest stunt with Okafor was nonsense.

[hookshot199]

Smitty's Tea Leaf Reader:

Okafor is back with the Sixers because Toronto outbid the Celtics for Serge Ibaka which returned Boston to the front of the Jimmy Butler line and knocked out the Nuggets bid which would have included Okafor and the Sixers getting Mudiay.

Never believed we were interested in Denzel Valentine, nor do we need more future first round picks.

Keep Okafor and use him to trade up in the draft, since the top ten in 2017 does not include any centers.

Cant wait until all these teams who don't need centers in the modern nba try to stop Joel Embiid down low.

Bryan Colangelo has never worked in a media market as big as Philadelphia. In addition to sheer size, Toronto and Phoenix simply do not have the same type of fan base. Clearly, he has not figured that out yet.

Unless the Sixers have changed their email template, here's how we can reach Bryan. He responded to somebody once before. So did Jerry C, but not to my message because I accused him of 'nepotism'. But if you write a reason, civil and well-thought letter, he'll read it, I suppose.

bryancolangelo@sixers.com
jerrycolangelo@sixers.com

[FlightBrothers]

I really hope all this does not mean that Bryan will now look to trade Noel since Okafor has no trade value. This is just so bizarre this whole situation. I have this gut feeling BC feels like he HAS TO make a move to clear the logjam and now that Okafor has slowed down he will focus on moving Noel

More importantly on a side bar as much as I love winning I really want a stinking top 4 pick in this draft and I am tired of these wins...lol

I want one of in no order (Ball, Fultz, Jackson and Isaac). I don't want Monk to be our "prize" for another awful season

If Okafor's value gets you pretty much nothing in return, why wouldn't you look to move Noel (pending RFA) if the value was there?

I understand we all like Noel and his defensive impact. I like Noel and want him to remain a Sixer.....but if your sold on Joel Embiid being 1 of your franchise players, paying someone 20+ million a year to be a backup/insurance policy doesn't really project as a slam dunk move long term, both for the Sixers as a team and Noel as a player. I know we have deep pockets now, but you have to constantly think ahead.

I do not believe Embiid will consistently play more than 60 games in a season and I think having a high level backup such as Noel will maintain our defensive intensity through an entire season. I think his impact on defense and the fact that he is a low usage player on offense who doesn't need the ball is extremely valuable. Not to mention with my eye test the team is just better when Noel plays.

If you plan to lock up Embiid for a long time you will need to invest in a high level rim protecting backup for him as well IMO. I would resign Noel and try to trade Okafor AND Richaun Holmes.

[PhilasFinest]

I really hope all this does not mean that Bryan will now look to trade Noel since Okafor has no trade value. This is just so bizarre this whole situation. I have this gut feeling BC feels like he HAS TO make a move to clear the logjam and now that Okafor has slowed down he will focus on moving Noel

More importantly on a side bar as much as I love winning I really want a stinking top 4 pick in this draft and I am tired of these wins...lol

I want one of in no order (Ball, Fultz, Jackson and Isaac). I don't want Monk to be our "prize" for another awful season

If Okafor's value gets you pretty much nothing in return, why wouldn't you look to move Noel (pending RFA) if the value was there?

I understand we all like Noel and his defensive impact. I like Noel and want him to remain a Sixer.....but if your sold on Joel Embiid being 1 of your franchise players, paying someone 20+ million a year to be a backup/insurance policy doesn't really project as a slam dunk move long term, both for the Sixers as a team and Noel as a player. I know we have deep pockets now, but you have to constantly think ahead.

I do not believe Embiid will consistently play more than 60 games in a season and I think having a high level backup such as Noel will maintain our defensive intensity through an entire season. I think his impact on defense and the fact that he is a low usage player on offense who doesn't need the ball is extremely valuable. Not to mention with my eye test the team is just better when Noel plays.

If you plan to lock up Embiid for a long time you will need to invest in a high level rim protecting backup for him as well IMO. I would resign Noel and try to trade Okafor AND Richaun Holmes.

And that is fine. Id 100% be on board with that logic and reasoning to keep Nerlens.

The underlying question still remains, is Noel on board with that plan? I know we can match ANY offer and pay him more than anybody....but is he going to be happy being a career back-up/spot starter? My gut tells me no.

He was openly disgruntled early on with this situation. He changed course and is now saying all the right things, but if internally we know he isn't going to be sipping this kool-aid long term.....moving him for value IF available would make sense.

[phillynative]

**** storm

[hookshot199]

I really hope all this does not mean that Bryan will now look to trade Noel since Okafor has no trade value. This is just so bizarre this whole situation. I have this gut feeling BC feels like he HAS TO make a move to clear the logjam and now that Okafor has slowed down he will focus on moving Noel

More importantly on a side bar as much as I love winning I really want a stinking top 4 pick in this draft and I am tired of these wins...lol

I want one of in no order (Ball, Fultz, Jackson and Isaac). I don't want Monk to be our "prize" for another awful season

If Okafor's value gets you pretty much nothing in return, why wouldn't you look to move Noel (pending RFA) if the value was there?

I understand we all like Noel and his defensive impact. I like Noel and want him to remain a Sixer.....but if your sold on Joel Embiid being 1 of your franchise players, paying someone 20+ million a year to be a backup/insurance policy doesn't really project as a slam dunk move long term, both for the Sixers as a team and Noel as a player. I know we have deep pockets now, but you have to constantly think ahead.

I do not believe Embiid will consistently play more than 60 games in a season and I think having a high level backup such as Noel will maintain our defensive intensity through an entire season. I think his impact on defense and the fact that he is a low usage player on offense who doesn't need the ball is extremely valuable. Not to mention with my eye test the team is just better when Noel plays.

If you plan to lock up Embiid for a long time you will need to invest in a high level rim protecting backup for him as well IMO. I would resign Noel and try to trade Okafor AND Richaun Holmes.

Because Embiid might be a 60-game/season player. His injury is a good reality check. We have two rim protectors, let's keep them both.

[PhilasFinest]

If Okafor's value gets you pretty much nothing in return, why wouldn't you look to move Noel (pending RFA) if the value was there?

I understand we all like Noel and his defensive impact. I like Noel and want him to remain a Sixer.....but if your sold on Joel Embiid being 1 of your franchise players, paying someone 20+ million a year to be a backup/insurance policy doesn't really project as a slam dunk move long term, both for the Sixers as a team and Noel as a player. I know we have deep pockets now, but you have to constantly think ahead.

I do not believe Embiid will consistently play more than 60 games in a season and I think having a high level backup such as Noel will maintain our defensive intensity through an entire season. I think his impact on defense and the fact that he is a low usage player on offense who doesn't need the ball is extremely valuable. Not to mention with my eye test the team is just better when Noel plays.

If you plan to lock up Embiid for a long time you will need to invest in a high level rim protecting backup for him as well IMO. I would resign Noel and try to trade Okafor AND Richaun Holmes.

Because Embiid might be a 60-game/season player. His injury is a good reality check. We have two rim protectors, let's keep them both.

Read the whole post. There is more to keeping Noel then his skill set and fit as "insurance".

23 year old kids, who were high level prospects drafted in the top 10 and view themselves as "game changers" (Noel frequently uses that term himself) are not likely to be happy with taking a smaller, bench role.