Markelle Fultz Discussion

[Negrodamus]

I like that one.

Honestly, I see the 76ers using Fultz as a secondary facilitator like Manu Ginobli. Ginobli isn't just a spot up shooter. He is a secondary playmaker. Ginobli in that role, has never averaged 5 assists per game in his career and he averaged more like 3 apg as a young player. So back to the original point of this conversation: I don't think Fultz's assist totals will be close to Ben Simmons' assist totals. I do think that Fultz could have a good scoring average for a rookie though.

I wanted to give you a good tongue in cheek comment.

I disagree, he will average as near or possibly more assists than Simmons. To have Simmons, a freak athlete that scores well near the basket and an elite distributor, and Fultz, an elite distributor with the best pull up jumper in the draft, and not utilize the PnR. This is completely ignoring Embiid's massive potential in the PnR (stretch big; completely enormous and finishes well with space).

Even more confusing than not running the PnR would be using Simmons as the ball handler in the PnR. Unless he has made massive leaps in shooting, the opposing defense will allow him to shoot anything outside of 20 feet.

We've had versions of this discussion before with different players. What skills players possess that seem elite in college, are not necessarily elite at the pro level. We can bookmark this conversation. At the end of the year (barring injury to Simmons) I guarantee you Fultz will not finish with 5 assists per game or come with 2 APG of Ben Simmons

Hope we can revisit this without Fultz getting a 6 month sport hernia recovery or Simmons having eternal turf toe.

[Sixerscan]

I don't think we're gonna see the same offense we've had over the past couple of years man.

I was going to say, I don't think Brown was concerned with polishing the PnR game with McConnell and Saric.

You don't not only draft, but trade up to #1 overall for Fultz to not run the thing he's best at. It doesn't make any sense.

Brett Brown runs the Spurs motion offense. The Spurs don't change their offense for the personnel and Brett Brown hasn't changed the offense since he came here. If they change the offense for Fultz I'll put Fultz's​ face in my avatar.

They ran noticeably more than the Sixers did (they were 18th in P&R% whereas the Sixers were 29th. The Hawks, another Spursean model, were 14th).

I expect an uptick.

[Mrcrockpots]

I was going to say, I don't think Brown was concerned with polishing the PnR game with McConnell and Saric.

You don't not only draft, but trade up to #1 overall for Fultz to not run the thing he's best at. It doesn't make any sense.

Brett Brown runs the Spurs motion offense. The Spurs don't change their offense for the personnel and Brett Brown hasn't changed the offense since he came here. If they change the offense for Fultz I'll put Fultz's​ face in my avatar.

They ran noticeably more than the Sixers did (they were 18th in P&R% whereas the Sixers were 29th. The Hawks, another Spursean model, were 14th).

I expect an uptick.

Agreed. I absolutely do not expect Embiid to have a usage rate of 36 percent this year. Embiid had a higher usage rate than James Harden last year. Think about that. I expect a lot more pick and rolls, trying to get Embiid the ball closer to the basket and much more moving without the ball. This change in offense is THE main reason why I think we might start out slow out the gate. I'm expecting a ton of turnovers early on from our big 3. Maybe our young guys not making that extra pass and taking a low percentage field goal, etc. Embiid's usage rate should be in the mid to late 20s this year me thinks.

[76ciology]

Have u guys been reading between the lines on Fultz? Personally, either they're not that high or they're downplaying him to not put pressure at him.

[Unbreakable99]

Have u guys been reading between the lines on Fultz? Personally, either they're not that high or they're downplaying him to not put pressure at him.

I don’t get that at all.

[Simmons25]

They've been quiet with him but probably more to do with Simmons also being a #1 pick and better equipped to handle the pressure and limelight at this stage having been in the system for a year already.

Fultz has found himself in the perfect situation where he isn't expected to come in and be the franchise savior... and really not even expected to be in the 2 best players.

[76ciology]

Have u guys been reading between the lines on Fultz? Personally, either they're not that high or they're downplaying him to not put pressure at him.

I don’t get that at all.

Ok maybe just me.

There's a lot of flat statements about him (being coachable) and only high one is about his wingspan.

[europeanfan]

Have u guys been reading between the lines on Fultz? Personally, either they're not that high or they're downplaying him to not put pressure at him.

Yes this is true.

Hell if you look for big praise the only praise was basically Durant saying he can really hoop and Anthony Davis saying he can win ROY. So people from the outside.

Meanwhile Simmons' ego is massaged a lot I feel like : called elite defender before 1st nba game, given point guard role even before training camp, everyone saying he's amazing...

Maybe they feel Markelle needs tough love, who knows. Time will tell. Regardless I'm still 110% confident he'll be great, I believe in my evaluation.

[Mrcrockpots]

Have u guys been reading between the lines on Fultz? Personally, either they're not that high or they're downplaying him to not put pressure at him.

Yes this is true.

Hell if you look for big praise the only praise was basically Durant saying he can really hoop and Anthony Davis saying he can win ROY. So people from the outside.

Meanwhile Simmons' ego is massaged a lot I feel like : called elite defender before 1st nba game, given point guard role even before training camp, everyone saying he's amazing...

Maybe they feel Markelle needs tough love, who knows. Time will tell. Regardless I'm still 110% confident he'll be great, I believe in my evaluation.

Call me crazy, but Fultz is the least of my concerns this season. The concern over Simmons' shot and Embiid's foot/knee are much bigger worries than any weakness for Fultz imo.

[Kolkmania]

Have u guys been reading between the lines on Fultz? Personally, either they're not that high or they're downplaying him to not put pressure at him.

Yes this is true.

Hell if you look for big praise the only praise was basically Durant saying he can really hoop and Anthony Davis saying he can win ROY. So people from the outside.

Meanwhile Simmons' ego is massaged a lot I feel like : called elite defender before 1st nba game, given point guard role even before training camp, everyone saying he's amazing...

Maybe they feel Markelle needs tough love, who knows. Time will tell. Regardless I'm still 110% confident he'll be great, I believe in my evaluation.

There's just less intrigue about Markelle Fultz than the average #1 pick because of the current roster, he's not a 6'10 ball handler or a transcendent 7'3 center with major injury issues, which results in less media coverage.

Personally I think this is the perfect situation for him, it takes some pressure off him and he can focus on the things he needs to develop rather than scoring 20 PPG.

[LloydFree]

Have u guys been reading between the lines on Fultz? Personally, either they're not that high or they're downplaying him to not put pressure at him.

I don’t get that at all.

I get it.

[mattd13]

have to agree right now the biggest concern is the injuries. healthy this team has tremendous upside. next you have to see if the young guys can handle the different level of play that they will see every night. if they can handle the intensity level and stay healthy then the will do great.

[76ciology]

Dont be concerned about the injuries just expect bad news. I mean, they just signed two bigs after Amir, pasecniks and Bolden in the offseason given Holmes, Biid and Jah can play center. Biid's health is as uncertain as the weather.

Our team doesn't seem to be blown away with Fultz. He sounds more like an upside guy right now. Still.. I'm high on Fultz and just think Biid's issue is big and Ben Simmons has been amazing that it gets BB and BC distracted for now.

[eyeatoma]

Dont be concerned about the injuries just expect bad news. I mean, they just signed two bigs after Amir, pasecniks and Bolden in the offseason given Holmes, Biid and Jah can play center. Biid's health is as uncertain as the weather.

Our team doesn't seem to be blown away with Fultz. He sounds more like an upside guy right now. Still.. I'm high on Fultz and just think Biid's issue is big and Ben Simmons has been amazing that it gets BB and BC distracted for now.

Dude, you can't make statements like that about Fultz, without something actually being said. We've had one media interaction with management. Just because they didn't mention him at length doesn't mean that they aren't blown away with him. He's young, a rookie, and on a team that has some aspirations. They don't need to put a ton of pressure on him.

Can't just say that they're not enamored with him. That would actually sound ridiculous given the fact that we traded for him.

[Unbreakable99]

Dont be concerned about the injuries just expect bad news. I mean, they just signed two bigs after Amir, pasecniks and Bolden in the offseason given Holmes, Biid and Jah can play center. Biid's health is as uncertain as the weather.

Our team doesn't seem to be blown away with Fultz. He sounds more like an upside guy right now. Still.. I'm high on Fultz and just think Biid's issue is big and Ben Simmons has been amazing that it gets BB and BC distracted for now.

Dude, you can't make statements like that about Fultz, without something actually being said. We've had one media interaction with management. Just because they didn't mention him at length doesn't mean that they aren't blown away with him. He's young, a rookie, and on a team that has some aspirations. They don't need to put a ton of pressure on him.

Can't just say that they're not enamored with him. That would actually sound ridiculous given the fact that we traded for him.

I think the Sixers are very high on Fultz. It’s just that there are 2 transcendent players they are higher on in Simmons and Embiid.

[Chris76]

Dont be concerned about the injuries just expect bad news. I mean, they just signed two bigs after Amir, pasecniks and Bolden in the offseason given Holmes, Biid and Jah can play center. Biid's health is as uncertain as the weather.

Our team doesn't seem to be blown away with Fultz. He sounds more like an upside guy right now. Still.. I'm high on Fultz and just think Biid's issue is big and Ben Simmons has been amazing that it gets BB and BC distracted for now.

Dude, you can't make statements like that about Fultz, without something actually being said. We've had one media interaction with management. Just because they didn't mention him at length doesn't mean that they aren't blown away with him. He's young, a rookie, and on a team that has some aspirations. They don't need to put a ton of pressure on him.

Can't just say that they're not enamored with him. That would actually sound ridiculous given the fact that we traded for him.

I think the Sixers are very high on Fultz. It’s just that there are 2 transcendent players they are higher on in Simmons and Embiid.

Fultz is a very good shooter, it comes easy for him.
If he can become a good perimeter defender, that was one of our biggest weaknesses. He should fit really well.

[Ericb5]

Dont be concerned about the injuries just expect bad news. I mean, they just signed two bigs after Amir, pasecniks and Bolden in the offseason given Holmes, Biid and Jah can play center. Biid's health is as uncertain as the weather.

Our team doesn't seem to be blown away with Fultz. He sounds more like an upside guy right now. Still.. I'm high on Fultz and just think Biid's issue is big and Ben Simmons has been amazing that it gets BB and BC distracted for now.

Dude, you can't make statements like that about Fultz, without something actually being said. We've had one media interaction with management. Just because they didn't mention him at length doesn't mean that they aren't blown away with him. He's young, a rookie, and on a team that has some aspirations. They don't need to put a ton of pressure on him.

Can't just say that they're not enamored with him. That would actually sound ridiculous given the fact that we traded for him.

I think the Sixers are very high on Fultz. It’s just that there are 2 transcendent players they are higher on in Simmons and Embiid.

Absolutely. It is unfair to Fultz to expect the buzz about him to equal the buzz about Simmons and Embiid. The Sixers are obviously thrilled about Fultz or they wouldn't have traded up for him.

As I have felt since the draft, Fultz has always been destined to be our third best player, and there is nothing wrong with that. He could become an allstar someday and still be our third best player.

[europeanfan]

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[Kolkmania]

My goodness, this scares me to death.

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I have had my fair share of criticism to the shooting coach Townsend, but this looks horrible. I think I know what they're trying to do, we saw it in Summer League as well, they want Fultz transforming his two-motion shot into a Curry-esque one-motion shot. But the results in this clip are horrible, this is a push shot like Richaun Holmes pushes his three pointers towards the basket.

He has to delay the extension of his elbow to the point his set point is at his eyes. He's doing it way too early at the moment, even below his chin, watch this in 0.25 speed.

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[CoreyGallagher]

Shooting form didn’t change drastically in SL, it actually did seem like the motion was quicker just by Youtubing. This however is too much, maybe it’s just so that he can get used to it now and then they’ll tweak afterward, but I don’t like watching it in this phase.

Still, 65% from charity stripe last year. I think he could make a similar percentage with this release by simply being able to see the basket, it seemed like he was keeping himself from doing that before.