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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1541 » by 76ciology » Sat Nov 2, 2024 2:48 am

Sixers Receive:
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Gary Trent Jr.

Sixers Starting 5:
Kyle Lowry
Gary Trent Jr
Paul George
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Joel Embiid

Why the Sixers do it:
This move creates a true Big Three, positioning the Sixers as serious championship contenders. If they don’t act, OKC might swoop in for Giannis, which would likely close their championship window anyway.

Bucks Receive:
Tyrese Maxey
Jonathan Kuminga
KJ Martin
2028 LAC 1st Round Pick
2029 LAC pick swap option

Bucks Starting 5:
Tyrese Maxey
Damian Lillard
Khris Middleton
Jonathan Kuminga
Brook Lopez

Why the Bucks do it:
The Bucks get a promising young star in Maxey and additional assets to build for the future, plus Kuminga’s potential as their future starting forward. Compete now with Dame, Maxey and Kuminga. Compete later with Maxey, Kuminga and the LAC picks

Warriors Receive:
Kelly Oubre
2026 Sixers or OKC 1st Round Pick
2030 Sixers 1st Round Pick

Why the Warriors do it:
Oubre fills Kuminga’s role, and they add two 1st round picks, which allows them to avoid overpaying for Kuminga while building future assets.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1542 » by NearingZero » Sat Nov 2, 2024 3:23 am

Moving Maxey + multiple picks for a weird (but intriguing) fit and then having to start Kyle Lowry ain't it IMO. The idea of Giannis and Embiid on defense is spicy though. I just don't know that the offensive initiation is sufficient to justify losing that much future value.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1543 » by 76ciology » Sat Nov 2, 2024 3:31 am

NearingZero wrote:Moving Maxey + multiple picks for a weird (but intriguing) fit and then having to start Kyle Lowry ain't it IMO. The idea of Giannis and Embiid on defense is spicy though. I just don't know that the offensive initiation is sufficient to justify losing that much future value.


We got 3 point guards in Lowry, Reggie and McCain.

We either can just stay in the status quo where we keep kicking the can down the road, or we can make bold moves now to secure the league’s biggest BIG 3 for a championship run in the next 3 years.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1544 » by NearingZero » Sat Nov 2, 2024 3:34 am

76ciology wrote:
NearingZero wrote:Moving Maxey + multiple picks for a weird (but intriguing) fit and then having to start Kyle Lowry ain't it IMO. The idea of Giannis and Embiid on defense is spicy though. I just don't know that the offensive initiation is sufficient to justify losing that much future value.


We got 3 point guards in Lowry, Reggie and McCain.

Yes, we have players to fill the playing time. That doesn't mean they're good enough.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1545 » by 76ciology » Sat Nov 2, 2024 3:38 am

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NearingZero wrote:Moving Maxey + multiple picks for a weird (but intriguing) fit and then having to start Kyle Lowry ain't it IMO. The idea of Giannis and Embiid on defense is spicy though. I just don't know that the offensive initiation is sufficient to justify losing that much future value.


We got 3 point guards in Lowry, Reggie and McCain.

Yes, we have players to fill the playing time. That doesn't mean they're good enough.


They’re good enough. You wont be asking them to generate offense.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1546 » by mjkvol » Sat Nov 2, 2024 2:53 pm

76ciology wrote:Kyle Lowry
Gary Trent Jr
Paul George
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Joel Embiid


If I was defending this group I would pack the paint and dare the Sixers to beat me with 3's. This just looks like an old, slow team that could bludgeon people defensively but would have spacing issues offensively. If you replaced Lowry with a younger PG who was a real threat from 3, it would look a lot better. Then there are the health issues ..............
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1547 » by 76ciology » Sun Nov 3, 2024 2:56 am

mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:Kyle Lowry
Gary Trent Jr
Paul George
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Joel Embiid


If I was defending this group I would pack the paint and dare the Sixers to beat me with 3's. This just looks like an old, slow team that could bludgeon people defensively but would have spacing issues offensively. If you replaced Lowry with a younger PG who was a real threat from 3, it would look a lot better. Then there are the health issues ..............


Health Issues:
Load management becomes easier with this lineup. You can legitimately rest Embiid while still remaining a 50 win team with Giannis and George leading the charge.

Shooting:
Shooters will get higher quality looks thanks to the gravity created by Embiid and Giannis. Hell, teams would need 3 centers in their rotation every game.

We can keep rotating in backcourt players who are solid defenders and reliable shooters, like Landry Shamet or Shake Milton types, since the core trio of George, Giannis, and Embiid provides elite defense with length.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1548 » by Ben » Fri Nov 8, 2024 2:50 am

As a Bulls/ Sixers fan, I've liked Alex Caruso and Ayo Dosunmu for quite a while as good fits for the Sixers (if there could be a trade that would benefit the Bulls as well). Each of Caruso-- now with OKC-- and Dosunmu (still with the Bulls) have gotten off to horrible starts. But I would hit "buy" on either of them with no reservations.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1549 » by 76ciology » Sat Nov 9, 2024 8:46 am

Sixers Receive
Cam Thomas
Cam Johnson
Dorian Finney Smith
2027 Sixers 1st

Nets Receive
Tyrese Maxey
Kenyon Martin Jr.
2026 OKC 1st
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Post#1550 » by Kobblehead » Sat Nov 9, 2024 2:05 pm

^ Not saying the value isn't there. I just am not a fan of trading players we drafted and developed into stars. Maxey would be off limits for me.
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Post#1551 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:59 am

Ok I'll say it then, the value isn't there
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1552 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:00 am

Unless Cam Thomas has turned a corner.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1553 » by WentzerWuver » Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:01 pm

76ciology wrote:Sixers Receive
Cam Thomas
Cam Johnson
Dorian Finney Smith
2027 Sixers 1st

Nets Receive
Tyrese Maxey
Kenyon Martin Jr.
2026 OKC 1st


How is Maxey not an untouchable for any diehard fan? I wouldn't even trade him for Tatum straight up. Maxey is our future as an elite player who gives us hope every game while none of those guys can be that other than a better total package value during Biid's window. I am willing to trade injury prone Joel at this point for the right package but not our future.

https://youtu.be/dmgM3RW69Ac?si=6TgMzaqeIIi6Oe7R

I am beginning to wonder if some posters here are true Sixers fan or not with their willingness to trade our beloved star because it's more than just the numbers. Diehards would reject this trade immediately!
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1554 » by the_process » Sun Nov 10, 2024 1:38 pm

76ciology wrote:Sixers Receive
Cam Thomas
Cam Johnson
Dorian Finney Smith
2027 Sixers 1st

Nets Receive
Tyrese Maxey
Kenyon Martin Jr.
2026 OKC 1st


This would be an incredible gamble; the type that NBA execs rarely, if ever, take.

I don't hate it. Still kinda think Cam is just a tank master extraordinaire, though, and we know Maxey can be third man on an elite squad.

I'd be more focused on getting the pick back from OKC for this year; and then just have Maxey, George, and Embiid all come down with season ending injuries.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1555 » by WentzerWuver » Sun Nov 10, 2024 1:55 pm

the_process wrote:
76ciology wrote:Sixers Receive
Cam Thomas
Cam Johnson
Dorian Finney Smith
2027 Sixers 1st

Nets Receive
Tyrese Maxey
Kenyon Martin Jr.
2026 OKC 1st


This would be an incredible gamble; the type that NBA execs rarely, if ever, take.

I don't hate it. Still kinda think Cam is just a tank master extraordinaire, though, and we know Maxey can be third man on an elite squad.

I'd be more focused on getting the pick back from OKC for this year; and then just have Maxey, George, and Embiid all come down with season ending injuries.

Both Cam are worthless without Embiid or hasn't anyone bothered following the Nets without KD? If I was GM, Maxey would be off the table on any trade which any other Sixers GM would do as well if they know what he means to Philly as he embody the city of Brotherly Love. For casual fans, Maxey is as good as gone just to improve Embiid chance to win the ship, if he can remain healthy ofc.

https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/03/sixers-telling-teams-tyrese-maxey-is-untouchable-in-any-trade-deal/

I can do better minor trades that don't involve our untouchable nor our Big 3 for that matter.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1556 » by Stanford » Sun Nov 10, 2024 2:13 pm

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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1557 » by mjkvol » Sun Nov 10, 2024 2:16 pm

Kobblehead wrote:^ Not saying the value isn't there. I just am not a fan of trading players we drafted and developed into stars. Maxey would be off limits for me.


This board has been trying to offload Maxey for three years now. I'll never understand the desire to trade a home grown all-star player who is still a kid, works his ass off to continue to get better, and wants to be a star in Philly.
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Post#1558 » by the_process » Sun Nov 10, 2024 2:35 pm

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Post#1559 » by Negrodamus » Sun Nov 10, 2024 2:45 pm

Referenced in another thread:

Sixers trade:
Kelly Oubre
KJ Martin
Caleb Martin
Eric Gordon
Whatever number of firsts to get it done

Utah trade:
John Collins

To be completed after Dec 15th.

Sixers go peel Lonnie Walker from Europe to fulfill that missing inefficient wing role that Kelly leaves. Collins moves George to 3. Gordon is obviously replaceable by McCain.

Collins adds rebounding we desperately need. I'm still of the mindset of keeping our picks and letting this thing ride, but I imagine Morey and Co want to win it this year.
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Post#1560 » by WentzerWuver » Sun Nov 10, 2024 3:14 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Referenced in another thread:

Sixers trade:
Kelly Oubre
KJ Martin
Caleb Martin
Eric Gordon
Whatever number of firsts to get it done

Utah trade:
John Collins

To be completed after Dec 15th.

Sixers go peel Lonnie Walker from Europe to fulfill that missing inefficient wing role that Kelly leaves. Collins moves George to 3. Gordon is obviously replaceable by McCain.

Collins adds rebounding we desperately need. I'm still of the mindset of keeping our picks and letting this thing ride, but I imagine Morey and Co want to win it this year.


I approve of this trade but not on dealing with mister fleece king Ainge, who would want every pick we have to take garbage back for Collins and would definitely demand McCain being included, being a rebuilding team. That Fultz for Tatum + future 1st trade still left a bad taste in my mouth but do like Collins over DFS.

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