2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2

smittybanton · Post #1561 » by **smittybanton** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:23 pm

Great **** game!!!

Mik317 · Post #1562 » by **Mik317** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:23 pm

its lit

tsmith · Post #1563 » by **tsmith** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:24 pm

No one can deny that Monk is clutch, has proven it many atimes

Mik317 · Post #1564 » by **Mik317** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:24 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:Awful game for Monk.

lol Negrodamus probably wishes you said this earlier

Kobblehead · Post #1565 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:26 pm

A pump fake, feet reset is about the extent of Malik's shot creating ability. He can't get anywhere with his handle. Especially at the NBA level.

Negrodamus · Post #1566 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:30 pm

Can't be too upset. Should have been a blow out at the half. UNC played like garbage today. More disappointed that Fox goes out like this after playing like a god recently. First and last tough game for UNC until Gonzaga. The seeding this year was an absolute joke.

I hope UNC loses to Oregon, but it's very unlikely.

Negrodamus · Post #1567 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:39 pm

I will say that I'm seething at the officials since they robbed us of Fox, Adebayo, and Monk for much of the first half due to embarrassing calls. But I could be biased for thinking like that.

Post #1568 » by **Sixerscan** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:40 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Can't be too upset. Should have been a blow out at the half. UNC played like garbage today. More disappointed that Fox goes out like this after playing like a god recently. First and last tough game for UNC until Gonzaga. The seeding this year was an absolute joke.

I hope UNC loses to Oregon, but it's very unlikely.

Wonder how different this game is if they hadn't played in December. Seemed like Roy had a lot of wrinkles to throw that the frosh weren't ready for. Jackson on Monk was a great call. And that zone they threw out there late killed UK's run.

Kobblehead · Post #1569 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:41 pm

I didn't like this year's Kentucky team. I'm surprised they made it this far. Gonna be cool next year to see them with a true rim protecting C in Nick Richards. Something they've lacked the past couple of years since Willie and Towns left.

phiphan · Post #1570 » by **phiphan** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:42 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
phiphan wrote:People are scared of taking Thornwell because he's like two standard deviations below an average NBA athlete at his position.

Would you take Thornwell over Monk in a vacuum, i.e. without considering team needs?

Even if I agreed with that stance on his athleticism (I don't), isn't Robert Covington about two deviations below the athletic standards of the SF position? Does that prevent him from being an elite defender?

Of course I would take Sindarious Thornwell over Malik Monk in a vacuum.

Covington has a comically short vertical but is quicker laterally and covers more ground than Thornwell. I don't think Thornwell had the quicks to cover NBA 2s, and he has average length for a 3. Covington has sufficient athleticism to guard his 'natural' position and has elite length there.

Unbreakable99 · Post #1571 » by **Unbreakable99** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:46 pm

Mik317 wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Awful game for Monk.

lol Negrodamus probably wishes you said this earlier

It was still an awful game. Hitting two bi shots in the last minute doesn't change that. He played like trash for 39 minutes.

Negrodamus · Post #1572 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:46 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Can't be too upset. Should have been a blow out at the half. UNC played like garbage today. More disappointed that Fox goes out like this after playing like a god recently. First and last tough game for UNC until Gonzaga. The seeding this year was an absolute joke.

I hope UNC loses to Oregon, but it's very unlikely.

Wonder how different this game is if they hadn't played in December. Seemed like Roy had a lot of wrinkles to throw that the frosh weren't ready for. Jackson on Monk was a great call. And that zone they threw out there late killed UK's run.

It's been this way for the past few games. Neutralize Monk, which isn't too hard (and part of the reason I'm cooling greatly on Monk), and the offense kinda staggers. However, Bam has been playing out of his mind along with Fox recently. So, instead of forcing the issue with Monk this game, UK went to Bam. It would have worked, because Bam got fouled frequently, but there were no calls, or even over-the-back calls on o-rebounds. We eventually had to pull him which should have devastated our offense, but Isaac played pretty well in his absence.

This is a different game if the officials didn't neutralize us in the first game. That said, what can you do? Congrats to UNC.

Negrodamus · Post #1573 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:48 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I didn't like this year's Kentucky team. I'm surprised they made it this far. Gonna be cool next year to see them with a true rim protecting C in Nick Richards. Something they've lacked the past couple of years since Willie and Towns left.

Screw that, I want Mo Bamba too.

cksdayoff · Post #1574 » by **cksdayoff** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:48 pm

1. Fultz
2. JJ
3. Ball
4. Tatum
5. DSJ
6. Fox
7. Isaac
8. Monk

Unbreakable99 · Post #1575 » by **Unbreakable99** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:11 am

Read on Twitter

Unbreakable99 · Post #1576 » by **Unbreakable99** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:18 am

HE'S BACK tomorrow! Like I said he brings ratings.

Read on Twitter

phiphan · Post #1577 » by **phiphan** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:20 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Stark contrast from that snarky tweet from Fultz from the sidelines the other night

cksdayoff · Post #1578 » by **cksdayoff** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:22 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Damn. I like seeing this type of emotion

LloydFree · Post #1579 » by **LloydFree** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:33 am

Sixerscan wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Can't be too upset. Should have been a blow out at the half. UNC played like garbage today. More disappointed that Fox goes out like this after playing like a god recently. First and last tough game for UNC until Gonzaga. The seeding this year was an absolute joke.

I hope UNC loses to Oregon, but it's very unlikely.

Wonder how different this game is if they hadn't played in December. Seemed like Roy had a lot of wrinkles to throw that the frosh weren't ready for. Jackson on Monk was a great call. And that zone they threw out there late killed UK's run.

Zone or match-up Zone is the way to beat Kentucky. Fox and Briscoe can't shoot. Forces Monk to score every possession... Like he did the 1st time they played.

smittybanton · Post #1580 » by **smittybanton** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:39 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:

Read on Twitter

That's my two dudes, right there!

DeAaron Fox's 3pt% by month:

November .133
December .154
January .231
February .250
March .417

One of the most important metrics for any developing player is "delta", or rate of change (improvement).
March is clearly an outlier. But the modest improvements bode well. The confidence with which he shoots from deep is also encouraging.