Markelle Fultz Discussion II

[Unbreakable99]

He hasn't been shooting by his own discretion. There's no structural issue preventing him from shooting.

I just read the Pompey article that he’s been participating in shooting drills and it’s been pain free.

Link?

Never mind. I found it.

But he’s now cleared to start progressing toward full basketball activities in addition to continuing his physical therapy. The guard’s return to action will be determined by how his shoulder responds to the increased training and practices.

Fultz previously visited two Major League Baseball doctors who specialize in shoulder injuries. All three doctors confirmed there was no structural damage in his shoulder.

So far, Fultz has participated in passing, shooting, and dribbling drills. He’s looked good and has been pain-free in his drills.

[CoreyGallagher]

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Stop with the insults, you can discuss without resorting to them.

[ivysixer2000]

He's been able to play. The Sixers never wanted to sit him.

He's a competitor. I believe his shoulder is as sore as his knee, at the end of the PAC-10 season last year.

I'd rather have an injured Fultz then a healthy Lonzo Ball.

Or Josh Jackson at this point.

I'm assuming we should've put Ben or Jojo out there during their 'vacations', cause there are times where both could've played but were held out. If we could wait on them, we can wait on Fultz.....except he seems to have alot more haters on this board.

Course Fultz should be out there with one arm while Ball can't play with 2 arms.

[Kobblehead]

I'm assuming we should've put Ben or Jojo out there during their 'vacations', cause there are times where both could've played but were held out. If we could wait on them, we can wait on Fultz.....except he seems to have alot more haters on this board.

The difference is that the organization was on-board with Simmons and Embiid sitting out. Also, both actually had structural damage to their body. Aka actual injuries.

Fultz is calling his own shots and pissing off the organization. A professional athlete missing 2 months for soreness is unheard of.

[ivysixer2000]

I'm assuming we should've put Ben or Jojo out there during their 'vacations', cause there are times where both could've played but were held out. If we could wait on them, we can wait on Fultz.....except he seems to have alot more haters on this board.

The difference is that the organization was on-board with Simmons and Embiid sitting out. Fultz is calling his own shots and pissing off the organization. A professional athlete missing 2 months for soreness is unheard of.

Fultz is hurt, was trying to play through it, its shouldn't be that hard to understand. Bet the organization wants Embiid out there for back to backs, but guess what, that's not happening so they just have to deal with it. 'Load management' is just crap this early in the season, sorry to tell you.

I'm willing to give players the benefit of the doubt cause its their bodies and we have no idea what's going on with that. I also don't have a problem with Ben and Embiid getting their 'vacations', what I don't understand is why some people here can accept others being hurt except Fultz.....oh no hes going against the organization. Thats also crap.

[Kobblehead]

He's sore, he's not hurt. It's factually incorrect to claim he has an injury. He's had multiple specialists come out and not find any structural damage now.

He and his agent made a public cry to shame the organization into giving him time off to get over the soreness. He pulled himself off the court. The team wants him out there. This is nothing like the Embiid/Simmons situations. Again, those players were actually injured.

[Unbreakable99]

Whatever his agent said or Fultz said is whatever. If Fultz comes back and still can’t shoot then we have bigger issues. Futon just better looks like he did in summer league.

[Kobblehead]

I'll even take the early season Fultz where he refused to shoot. We need a slasher that can defend on the 2nd unit. Our bench is putrid right now.

[ivysixer2000]

He's sore, he's not hurt. It's factually incorrect to claim he has an injury. He's had multiple specialists come out and not find any structural damage now.

He and his agent made a public cry to shame the organization into giving him time off to get over the soreness. He pulled himself off the court. The team wants him out there. This is nothing like the Embiid/Simmons situations. Again, those players were actually injured.

The games Embiid has missed this season, was he injured? Nope, 'load management'.

I said hurt, I didnt say injured for Fultz. I do know something is obviously wrong, and it needs to be corrected. I don't know what precisely it is, but I also know that you don't either. All I'm saying is he should get the chance to get right like everyone else we have given that chance to do.

We are desperate for a guard right now that can play, JJ, TJ, TLC, and Bayless (when healthy) can't handle this many mins. We do need Fultz to take the pressure off them, but I'm not willing to just throw him out there at all if he's not ready. And obviously the organization agrees with me.

[ivysixer2000]

I'll even take the early season Fultz where he refused to shoot. We need a slasher that can defend on the 2nd unit. Our bench is putrid right now.

I agree with this.

I'm just not willing to throw him out there while him not being able to shoot can affect his confidence.

[LongLiveHinkie]

He's sore, he's not hurt. It's factually incorrect to claim he has an injury. He's had multiple specialists come out and not find any structural damage now.

He and his agent made a public cry to shame the organization into giving him time off to get over the soreness. He pulled himself off the court. The team wants him out there. This is nothing like the Embiid/Simmons situations. Again, those players were actually injured.

Actual doctors say you're incorrect on this. It's an actual injury, it's not just sore. Soreness is sleeping funny and waking up with a stiff neck. Scapular imbalance is an actual condition. Soreness doesn't last for 6 weeks, which he will at least be out for.

[Kobblehead]

The organization obviously wants him on the court. Which is why they put him out there. They didn't take him off the court until his agent went public with a weird drained fluid/cortisone shot flip flop.

[Kobblehead]

Actual doctors say you're incorrect on this. It's an actual injury, it's not just sore. Soreness is sleeping funny and waking up with a stiff neck. Scapular imbalance is an actual condition. Soreness doesn't last for 6 weeks, which he will at least be out for.

Scapular imbalance was the prognosis for his soreness. It's not an injury diagnosis that requires time off. Especially not a ridiculous 2 month timespan.

[LongLiveHinkie]

If they wanted him on the court, he would be on the court. And with all due respect to them, they don't have the injury, he does. Pain varies from person to person. They aren't going to keep a guy out for two months because of PR games with an agent. And Fultz probably wants to play too.

The thing he has is an actual condition.

[Kobblehead]

A scapular imbalance is what teenage football players get for training for the first time with improper technique. Usually they do some basic stretches and the soreness goes away over time.

[ivysixer2000]

The organization obviously wants him on the court. Which is why they put him out there. They didn't take him off the court until his agent went public with a weird drained fluid/cortisone shot flip flop.

I'm also sure the organization would love for Embiid to play back to backs.....after all, nothing is wrong with him right now.

We do need Fultz, and really bad actually cause our guard play hasn't been the most wonderful thing in the world. We do need a slasher, like you said, cause we have noone at the guard position that can both slash and make a jumper. It will just take some patience for Fultz to get right.

If I can wait all these years, I can wait a few weeks more.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Actual doctors say you're incorrect on this. It's an actual injury, it's not just sore. Soreness is sleeping funny and waking up with a stiff neck. Scapular imbalance is an actual condition. Soreness doesn't last for 6 weeks, which he will at least be out for.

Scapular imbalance was the prognosis for his soreness. It's not an injury diagnosis that requires time off. Especially not a ridiculous 2 month timespan.

Actual doctors disagree. Read the article by Dr. Chao posted on a previous page.

[Kobblehead]

Being cautious with Embiid after having major back, foot and knee injuries actually makes sense.

Allowing Ben to sit out a year for a 3 month injury was excessive, but the injury was a serious one.

This Fultz situation is just weird. He's been put on the shelf for multiple weeks just for experiencing soreness.

[Negrodamus]

They didn't take him off the court until his agent went public with a weird drained fluid/cortisone shot flip flop.

I think this is all that needs to be said about this being more than the scapular imbalance.

[Kobblehead]

Actual doctors disagree. Read the article by Dr. Chao posted on a previous page.

The twitter guy who comments on every sports-related injury he sees on tv by making estimated, albeit educated, guesses? He doesn't have any access to Fultz like the multiple specialists who have examined and cleared him any or anything that could lead to structural damage.