Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5

[Embiid P]

I've been reading the Clips forum, and there's a prevailing sentiment that they don't need Harden. I also share the opinion that we don't need Harden.

However, watching this Clips game has made me appreciate Harden's value.

The Clips have a roster filled with great shotmakers such as Hyland, Powell, George, and Kawhi. But they lack a playmaker who can create open opportunities and distribute the ball when those shots aren't falling.

Well, here's to hoping that the Clippers have a terrible season to the point where they are desperate for Harden.

[76ciology]

The Bulls are the favorites to land James Harden if he’s not traded to the Clippers, per bovada

[HardenToSixers]

Am I the only one that has lost the joy of watching the NBA? It's obviously difficult for me to objectively separate the current state of the Sixers and the overall pain of being a Sixers fan from the product itself, but it has just progressively become more tough to watch.

The fact that the majority of possessions going to the rim is basically decided by a whistle (or the lack thereof) rather than a player putting the ball in the hoop based off skill is no longer entertaining to me. Games take so long in crunch time and it's a terrible product. The precedent they have set on fouls and legal defense in this league right now is ridiculous.

[76ciology]

I've been reading the Clips forum, and there's a prevailing sentiment that they don't need Harden. I also share the opinion that we don't need Harden.

However, watching this Clips game has made me appreciate Harden's value.

The Clips have a roster filled with great shotmakers such as Hyland, Powell, George, and Kawhi. But they lack a playmaker who can create open opportunities and distribute the ball when those shots aren't falling.

Well, here's to hoping that the Clippers have a terrible season to the point where they are desperate for Harden.

What I read is they have to be mid. Being terrible also removes the need for them to overpay for Harden.

They’re now mid with how stacked the west is. I think GSW will be very good once CP, Klay and Wiggins’ shooting bounces back.

Right now, Clips and Lakers are on the same tier. I also wouldnt be surprised if Lakers enter the mix for the Harden sweepstakes.

[Eyeamok]

So according to the realgm news the Clippers offered Mann as part of the package to get Jrue Holiday. How do the 76ers know that? Oh yes Neil Olshey is on the 76ers payroll now and I guess he hears things.

The issue is, probably, the Clippers offered Mann for Jrue because there were several offers for Jrue so they had to create a good package to be in the conversation.

In the Harden talks, the Clippers are basically offering against themselves, they have no pressure to create a really great package.

But they do have pressure. The pressure of being second class citizens when it comes to basketball in LA. Harden gives them a big 3. A legit big 3. Is he worth the risk? Maybe not to a lot of team but LA, I think so.
LA should be doing all they can to get this deal done sooner rather than later. Integrate Harden into the team and winning in the playoffs should be the only goal. If it does not work this season then don't sign him in the off season. But at least you tired to make a difference in LA basketball.

[76ciology]

Am I the only one that has lost the joy of watching the NBA? It's obviously difficult for me to objectively separate the current state of the Sixers and the overall pain of being a Sixers fan from the product itself, but it has just progressively become more tough to watch.

The fact that the majority of possessions going to the rim is basically decided by a whistle (or the lack thereof) rather than a player putting the ball in the hoop based off skill is no longer entertaining to me. Games take so long in crunch time and it's a terrible product. The precedent they have set on fouls and legal defense in this league right now is ridiculous.

I just hate it when they dont let the defenders get close to the shooter because of the “landing space”, they should not apply it for shooters who are using their legs to create space and shooters who are moving forward.

Other than that, it’s been OK so far. Im watching a lot of Warriors basketball so far, I think they’re running exactly how an ideal basketball team should be run.

[MoeGreene]

When someone says they remain committed to something, that would be what's known as foreshadowing, right?

Foreshadowing doesn't usually work out well.

[rocketsfan100]

The Bulls are the favorites to land James Harden if he’s not traded to the Clippers, per bovada

Zach lavine looks awful this season and has a multi year max deal with constant injuries. If I’m Morey Derozan is the guy I’m after. Will be an expiring deal and is a more consistent player.

[76ciology]

The Bulls are the favorites to land James Harden if he’s not traded to the Clippers, per bovada

Zach lavine looks awful this season and has a multi year max deal with constant injuries. If I’m Morey Derozan is the guy I’m after. Will be an expiring deal and is a more consistent player.

Derozan, compete for a year.
Roll the dice in next year’s FA.

Need a guy who can take the ball out of Biid’s hands and make the whole team less TO prone with more ball movement.

[rocketsfan100]

The Bulls are the favorites to land James Harden if he’s not traded to the Clippers, per bovada

Zach lavine looks awful this season and has a multi year max deal with constant injuries. If I’m Morey Derozan is the guy I’m after. Will be an expiring deal and is a more consistent player.

Derozan, compete for a year.
Roll the dice in next year’s FA.

You get cap flexibility, more consistent playe who keeps the Sixers in the hunt.

[76ciology]

Zach lavine looks awful this season and has a multi year max deal with constant injuries. If I’m Morey Derozan is the guy I’m after. Will be an expiring deal and is a more consistent player.

Derozan, compete for a year.
Roll the dice in next year’s FA.

You get cap flexibility, more consistent playe who keeps the Sixers in the hunt.

Maxey
Derozan
Oubre
Tobias
Embiid

5 atleast 20ppg scorers. Can just insert guys like Melton, Springer and Reed on situations and balance defense and offense.

We were OK with Jimmy in 2018-2019 with Ben clogging the paint, I dont see why we wont be OK with Derozan.

My issue is Bulls maybe asking for a lot of picks for Derozan is not just a scorer like Norman Powell

[M2J]

Good job tonight by DeRozan

[76ciology]

We just need EITHER Kelly Oubre or Tobias Harris to be efficient 20ppg scorer and they can replace Maxey’s role as 3rd option. Whereas we let Maxey naturally replace Harden.

Then we can easily be as good and likely even better than our team last season.

[76ciology]

If Silver is gonna be policing on how we treat Harden, he better be policing with how Harden treats us. If Harden comes in and tank games, whats he gonna do?

[eyeatoma]

We just need EITHER Kelly Oubre or Tobias Harris to be efficient 20ppg scorer and they can replace Maxey’s role as 3rd option. Whereas we let Maxey naturally replace Hardan.
Then we can easily be as good and likely even better than our team last season.

If only it were that simple lol.

[76ciology]

We just need EITHER Kelly Oubre or Tobias Harris to be efficient 20ppg scorer and they can replace Maxey’s role as 3rd option. Whereas we let Maxey naturally replace Hardan.
Then we can easily be as good and likely even better than our team last season.

If only it were that simple lol.

[Kobblehead]

Chicago actually would be a great trade partner when you think about it:

1. They have a generic allstar to exchange for optics purposes (DeRozan) that is cheap and expiring.

2. They have useful vets that work as Tatum/Brown defenders in Patrick Williams and Torrey Craig.

3. They have a young, athletic wing we can develop for down the line (Dalen Terry or Julian Phillips).

DeRozan, Williams, Craig, and Phillips for Harden and Korkmaz works.

[GutUNC]

If Harden plays for us this year, should he play as a starter or backup? I think this year should be Maxey experiment as a lead guard, to see if he can do it. Soften is on his way out, so i think he should play sparingly as a backup( if he plays).

We should be trying to (A) win games and (B) raise his trade value so if he's available and trying, we should start him and let him do his thing. Maxey still has plenty of opportunities with or without Harden in the lineup.

[youngcrev]

Get me back Caruso in any Bulls deal. People would overreact to the lack of box score production (as they somewhat rightfully do with PJ), but that dude is elite defensively and comes up with big plays. He'd be an awesome role player fit next to Tyrese in the backcourt. And he's got another cheap year after this one that wouldn't interfere with a cap space plan.

Pat Williams is interesting in terms of potential, but he's likely to get paid based on that potential rather than his actual production on the floor. Reports were he wanted 20+M a year and I don't think you give that to a maybe.

[mjkvol]

Am I the only one that has lost the joy of watching the NBA?

You can pretty much say virtually the same thing with regard to every pro sport any more. College sports are quickly getting to that point as well, as with NIL, free transfers, conference "realignment", and the rules of the games themselves becoming more like the pro games. With the exploding cost of media rights steering the ship along with legalized gambling and the greed it begets, it's a slippery slope to irrelevancy, but with the public's endless lust for entertainment the industry will continue to be propped up.

Sorry for the rant, I know that wasn't your point.