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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1561 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:06 pm

sixerguy wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Morey's biggest mistake is never shipping out Tobias. This was the year to send out his expiring for something, even if it was longer-term money.

And guess what?
Spoiler:
No big name is coming here in free agency.


No chance of doing a sign and trade of some combination of Tobias, Melton, Hield, and a 1st for a big name?


I don't think any of those players sound good enough to be the centerpiece of a star trade. We'd have to rope in some pick-hungry GM because that's all we can offer. We have no young talent and no tradeable contracts outside of Reed.

On top of that, even if we acquired a star, we'd then have to rebuild the depth yet again. We can probably only retain 1-2 of our own free agents and would have to renounce the rest. I really don't see the cap space route working out.

My tin foil hat says Embiid told the FO that this is his last year in Philly if we don't win/advance past the 2nd round. Why else keep all the future flexibility in a summer void of good free agents?
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Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1562 » by GiannisAnte34 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:09 pm

Tobias Harris over me!?

lmao that will never get old. even as a fan of a team that Jimmy has killed more than once
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1563 » by FireMorey » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:24 pm

Bojan and Burks was on the table for Harris at the deadline. Morey said no.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1564 » by sixerguy » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:33 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
sixerguy wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Morey's biggest mistake is never shipping out Tobias. This was the year to send out his expiring for something, even if it was longer-term money.

And guess what?
Spoiler:
No big name is coming here in free agency.


No chance of doing a sign and trade of some combination of Tobias, Melton, Hield, and a 1st for a big name?


I don't think any of those players sound good enough to be the centerpiece of a star trade. We'd have to rope in some pick-hungry GM because that's all we can offer. We have no young talent and no tradeable contracts outside of Reed.

On top of that, even if we acquired a star, we'd then have to rebuild the depth yet again. We can probably only retain 1-2 of our own free agents and would have to renounce the rest. I really don't see the cap space route working out.

My tin foil hat says Embiid told the FO that this is his last year in Philly if we don't win/advance past the 2nd round. Why else keep all the future flexibility in a summer void of good free agents?


I'm thinking Dallas might bite because they need depth. Irving for those three ($15 mil a piece) and a first seems doable from their perspective. it would also net us Jrue Holiday, though don't know if Id do it from our perspective, he looked cooked last night. CJ McColloum, Jamal Murray, Brandon Ingram all only have one year left contracts so we wouldn't be stuck with them longterm (kick the can down another year). Jaylen Brown, Zach Lavine, Draymond Green all are overpaid so a sign and trade of Tobias, Melton, and Buddy and a 1st might also provide them depth and more tradable contracts. We could definitely make that trade for Jerami Grant... I just don't believe there's no options.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1565 » by Stanford » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:53 pm

FireMorey wrote:Bojan and Burks was on the table for Harris at the deadline. Morey said no.


Bojan **** sucks. Knicks fans hate him already.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1566 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:12 pm

sixerguy wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
sixerguy wrote:
No chance of doing a sign and trade of some combination of Tobias, Melton, Hield, and a 1st for a big name?


I don't think any of those players sound good enough to be the centerpiece of a star trade. We'd have to rope in some pick-hungry GM because that's all we can offer. We have no young talent and no tradeable contracts outside of Reed.

On top of that, even if we acquired a star, we'd then have to rebuild the depth yet again. We can probably only retain 1-2 of our own free agents and would have to renounce the rest. I really don't see the cap space route working out.

My tin foil hat says Embiid told the FO that this is his last year in Philly if we don't win/advance past the 2nd round. Why else keep all the future flexibility in a summer void of good free agents?


I'm thinking Dallas might bite because they need depth. Irving for those three ($15 mil a piece) and a first seems doable from their perspective. it would also net us Jrue Holiday, though don't know if Id do it from our perspective, he looked cooked last night. CJ McColloum, Jamal Murray, Brandon Ingram all only have one year left contracts so we wouldn't be stuck with them longterm (kick the can down another year). Jaylen Brown, Zach Lavine, Draymond Green all are overpaid so a sign and trade of Tobias, Melton, and Buddy and a 1st might also provide them depth and more tradable contracts. We could definitely make that trade for Jerami Grant... I just don't believe there's no options.


Ingram could be a fit, albeit his game is akin to Harris's. The rest of those players either don't fit next to Maxey or aren't good enough to make a difference.

In other words, there are options, but no obvious move that will make this team drastically better next year.
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Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1567 » by rzzzzz » Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:50 pm

So are we at least going to scoop up Mike Muscala?
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1568 » by TheBallsDeeper » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:40 am

GiannisAnte34 wrote:Tobias Harris over me!?

lmao that will never get old. even as a fan of a team that Jimmy has killed more than once

The only problem was Jimmy got it wrong. The reaason Sixers didn't re-sign him is because Brett Brown said he couldn't coach Butler - which is actually worse.
So Jummy looked like an imbecile saying that. And the sixers screwed their best chance of a championship for the past 40 and at least the next 10 years.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1569 » by TheBallsDeeper » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:45 am

GoSixersBro wrote:Turning on Maxey after his amazing progression into Year 4 is wild.

Hard to remember, but I hope Ben got this treatment when he was literally regressing by Year 4.

Kembla Walker and Isisah Thams were both all-stars putting up big numbers - you want to trade them in? The rest of the league worked out that putting up 26 but giving up 40 isn't winning basketball.

And in year four anyone that wasn't a delusional Philly homer was smashing Simmons - and we were right (rerasons were different. Simmons is uncoachable, Maxey if not a positive player no matter what he does). I had the same arguments here about Simmons - needed to trade while the stock was high.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1570 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:40 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:Turning on Maxey after his amazing progression into Year 4 is wild.

Hard to remember, but I hope Ben got this treatment when he was literally regressing by Year 4.

Kembla Walker and Isisah Thams were both all-stars putting up big numbers - you want to trade them in? The rest of the league worked out that putting up 26 but giving up 40 isn't winning basketball.

And in year four anyone that wasn't a delusional Philly homer was smashing Simmons - and we were right (rerasons were different. Simmons is uncoachable, Maxey if not a positive player no matter what he does). I had the same arguments here about Simmons - needed to trade while the stock was high.


Yeah man! You've been right about everything this whole time! Amazing! Seriously bro...Straight-up genius! You know everything and call it like it is!!!!
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1571 » by phifans » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:42 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:Turning on Maxey after his amazing progression into Year 4 is wild.

Hard to remember, but I hope Ben got this treatment when he was literally regressing by Year 4.

Kembla Walker and Isisah Thams were both all-stars putting up big numbers - you want to trade them in? The rest of the league worked out that putting up 26 but giving up 40 isn't winning basketball.

And in year four anyone that wasn't a delusional Philly homer was smashing Simmons - and we were right (rerasons were different. Simmons is uncoachable, Maxey if not a positive player no matter what he does). I had the same arguments here about Simmons - needed to trade while the stock was high.


No matter what ... comparing Ben Simmons (a random guy who gifted fabulous physical talents to play bball but literally has no interests in this sport and never had any progress in his years with Philly) to Maxey (an underrated prospect but working so hard to make huge progress since coming into the league) is a pure insult to Tyrese.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1572 » by TheBallsDeeper » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:08 am

phifans wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:Turning on Maxey after his amazing progression into Year 4 is wild.

Hard to remember, but I hope Ben got this treatment when he was literally regressing by Year 4.

Kembla Walker and Isisah Thams were both all-stars putting up big numbers - you want to trade them in? The rest of the league worked out that putting up 26 but giving up 40 isn't winning basketball.

And in year four anyone that wasn't a delusional Philly homer was smashing Simmons - and we were right (rerasons were different. Simmons is uncoachable, Maxey if not a positive player no matter what he does). I had the same arguments here about Simmons - needed to trade while the stock was high.


No matter what ... comparing Ben Simmons (a random guy who gifted fabulous physical talents to play bball but literally has no interests in this sport and never had any progress in his years with Philly) to Maxey (an underrated prospect but working so hard to make huge progress since coming into the league) is a pure insult to Tyrese.

Who's comparing them>?

Do you struggle to comprehend the English language, or are you being deliberately obtuse to cover the fact you have no argument except " F#ck youz - Filly Rulz!!!"
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1573 » by TheBallsDeeper » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:10 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:Turning on Maxey after his amazing progression into Year 4 is wild.

Hard to remember, but I hope Ben got this treatment when he was literally regressing by Year 4.

Kembla Walker and Isisah Thams were both all-stars putting up big numbers - you want to trade them in? The rest of the league worked out that putting up 26 but giving up 40 isn't winning basketball.

And in year four anyone that wasn't a delusional Philly homer was smashing Simmons - and we were right (rerasons were different. Simmons is uncoachable, Maxey if not a positive player no matter what he does). I had the same arguments here about Simmons - needed to trade while the stock was high.


Yeah man! You've been right about everything this whole time! Amazing! Seriously bro...Straight-up genius! You know everything and call it like it is!!!!

Thanks. Pay more attention in future, it might save you time simping to players who don't know you exist.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1574 » by the_process » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:13 am

GoSixersBro wrote:Turning on Maxey after his amazing progression into Year 4 is wild.

Hard to remember, but I hope Ben got this treatment when he was literally regressing by Year 4.


Ben made All-NBA year 4. :lol:

Listen, we have to see what happens this summer. Morey might be going all in on a pair of deuces, but it's not a dead hand; to borrow poker parlance.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1575 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:14 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:Kembla Walker and Isisah Thams were both all-stars putting up big numbers - you want to trade them in? The rest of the league worked out that putting up 26 but giving up 40 isn't winning basketball.

And in year four anyone that wasn't a delusional Philly homer was smashing Simmons - and we were right (rerasons were different. Simmons is uncoachable, Maxey if not a positive player no matter what he does). I had the same arguments here about Simmons - needed to trade while the stock was high.


Yeah man! You've been right about everything this whole time! Amazing! Seriously bro...Straight-up genius! You know everything and call it like it is!!!!

Thanks. Pay more attention in future, it might save you time simping to players who don't know you exist.


Woah! Dude! You're right again! Nailed it!
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1576 » by TheBallsDeeper » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:20 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
Yeah man! You've been right about everything this whole time! Amazing! Seriously bro...Straight-up genius! You know everything and call it like it is!!!!

Thanks. Pay more attention in future, it might save you time simping to players who don't know you exist.


Woah! Dude! You're right again! Nailed it!

Thats it? Like, that's all you bothered contributing. Log off champ - you're cooked.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1577 » by Mik317 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:23 am

trade your best players is the only thing most philly fans know

and then they complain that they don't have any good players.

Kemba played for the **** Hornets and IT **** up his hip and neither were the off ball talent Maxey is. Thats what makes him valuable in the modern NBA. The fact that he has gotten better each year, is a hard worker and is well liked also puts him ahead of Ben. Add in the fact that he currently makes peanuts so itsn't that valuable...trading him now is just **** stupid lol.

But again that and firing the coach is all some fans have as ways of improving.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1578 » by phifans » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:36 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
phifans wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:Kembla Walker and Isisah Thams were both all-stars putting up big numbers - you want to trade them in? The rest of the league worked out that putting up 26 but giving up 40 isn't winning basketball.

And in year four anyone that wasn't a delusional Philly homer was smashing Simmons - and we were right (rerasons were different. Simmons is uncoachable, Maxey if not a positive player no matter what he does). I had the same arguments here about Simmons - needed to trade while the stock was high.


No matter what ... comparing Ben Simmons (a random guy who gifted fabulous physical talents to play bball but literally has no interests in this sport and never had any progress in his years with Philly) to Maxey (an underrated prospect but working so hard to make huge progress since coming into the league) is a pure insult to Tyrese.

Who's comparing them>?

Do you struggle to comprehend the English language, or are you being deliberately obtuse to cover the fact you have no argument except " F#ck youz - Filly Rulz!!!"


You just put Ben and Maxey into the same situation — someone you should trade when their stock is high but totally ignore the difference into their growth curve.

You either struggle to conprehend my words or you may not even aware what you are talking.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1579 » by TheBallsDeeper » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:43 am

phifans wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:
phifans wrote:
No matter what ... comparing Ben Simmons (a random guy who gifted fabulous physical talents to play bball but literally has no interests in this sport and never had any progress in his years with Philly) to Maxey (an underrated prospect but working so hard to make huge progress since coming into the league) is a pure insult to Tyrese.

Who's comparing them>?

Do you struggle to comprehend the English language, or are you being deliberately obtuse to cover the fact you have no argument except " F#ck youz - Filly Rulz!!!"


You just put Ben and Maxey into the same situation — someone you should trade when their stock is high but totally ignore the difference into their growth curve.

You either struggle to conprehend my words or you may not even aware what you are talking.

Nah - I clearly wrote wrote that they are different situations, you're just trying to twist it because you are a homer incapable of comprehending anything other than "Filli PlAyerZ Rulz!!"

Sit this one out little fella, you are way out of your depth here.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1580 » by the_process » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:48 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:
sixerguy wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Morey's biggest mistake is never shipping out Tobias. This was the year to send out his expiring for something, even if it was longer-term money.

And guess what?
Spoiler:
No big name is coming here in free agency.


No chance of doing a sign and trade of some combination of Tobias, Melton, Hield, and a 1st for a big name?


I don't think any of those players sound good enough to be the centerpiece of a star trade. We'd have to rope in some pick-hungry GM because that's all we can offer. We have no young talent and no tradeable contracts outside of Reed.

On top of that, even if we acquired a star, we'd then have to rebuild the depth yet again. We can probably only retain 1-2 of our own free agents and would have to renounce the rest. I really don't see the cap space route working out.

My tin foil hat says Embiid told the FO that this is his last year in Philly if we don't win/advance past the 2nd round. Why else keep all the future flexibility in a summer void of good free agents?


Morey is gambling on the new CBA causing teams to scramble to get under the 2nd apron, and therefore some big name players becoming available. We'll see if it works out. Cap projection going down slightly doesn't hurt that gamble.

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