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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1581 » by GabeCerebro » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:15 pm

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GabeCerebro wrote:The same people in this thread hating on Jah are the same Noel stans that thought we should've given him the max... The same Noel that is sitting in FA still because he has minimal interest league wise, and thinks he's way better than he actually is.. Just as you all do. It's hilarious.


This is a moot point because Noel is actually better than Okafor. Right now Holmes has more trade value than Okafor. We traded Long to the Rockets. The Rockets didn't want Okafor. That shows you how awful Okafor has been.


lol imagine thinking that Long and Okafor are two players you would have on a similar trade value level..... They aren't even comparable. Super reach on your part. We weren't, and aren't going to trade Okafor for nothing and the Jah doubters in this fanbase continue to selectively ignore that fact. It has zero to do with how "good or bad" he is in your mind.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1582 » by eagereyez » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:16 pm

Okafor is so valuable that teams back out of agreed upon trades for him. Okafor is told to pack his bags but BC calls to tell him the trade's off before he gets on the plane. And Okafor was in the 2nd year of his rookie contract, unlike Noel who was in his 4th.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1583 » by Aussiepiston1 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:40 am

Not sure what all you Okafor haters have to gain by continuing to bash him on here and make false claims that he's worthless.
Obviously BC isn't going to give away for free when he has 2 years remaining at a low salary with enough upside to warrant it.
The same can be said for any player that is rumoured to be traded i.e Carmelo.
The few of us that are actually rooting for him, know his deficiencies and are hoping he can improve not so we can beat our chest and say I told you so but for the better of him and the team.
Giving him away for peanuts and belittling him doesn't do anyone any good, Unless it boosts your ego which in that case I feel sorry for you.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1584 » by Chris76 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:47 am

GabeCerebro wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
GabeCerebro wrote:The same people in this thread hating on Jah are the same Noel stans that thought we should've given him the max... The same Noel that is sitting in FA still because he has minimal interest league wise, and thinks he's way better than he actually is.. Just as you all do. It's hilarious.


This is a moot point because Noel is actually better than Okafor. Right now Holmes has more trade value than Okafor. We traded Long to the Rockets. The Rockets didn't want Okafor. That shows you how awful Okafor has been.


lol imagine thinking that Long and Okafor are two players you would have on a similar trade value level..... They aren't even comparable. Super reach on your part. We weren't, and aren't going to trade Okafor for nothing and the Jah doubters in this fanbase continue to selectively ignore that fact. It has zero to do with how "good or bad" he is in your mind.


If anybody can help Okafor's value, it would be Ben Simmons. A 2-
way forward would be perfect for him. Also, Dario and him would make an interesting combination.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1585 » by OleSchool » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:17 am

Chris76 wrote:
GabeCerebro wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
This is a moot point because Noel is actually better than Okafor. Right now Holmes has more trade value than Okafor. We traded Long to the Rockets. The Rockets didn't want Okafor. That shows you how awful Okafor has been.


lol imagine thinking that Long and Okafor are two players you would have on a similar trade value level..... They aren't even comparable. Super reach on your part. We weren't, and aren't going to trade Okafor for nothing and the Jah doubters in this fanbase continue to selectively ignore that fact. It has zero to do with how "good or bad" he is in your mind.


If anybody can help Okafor's value, it would be Ben Simmons. A 2-
way forward would be perfect for him. Also, Dario and him would make an interesting combination.


I love Dario (yes I know his flaws) but OK4 and Dario would be a layup line for the other team. it would be like watching a train wreck
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1586 » by timLH » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:44 am

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GabeCerebro wrote:The same people in this thread hating on Jah are the same Noel stans that thought we should've given him the max... The same Noel that is sitting in FA still because he has minimal interest league wise, and thinks he's way better than he actually is.. Just as you all do. It's hilarious.

The fact is no teams want Okafor too, otherwise he would have been traded. That said, I am fine with him to be here for one more season and give him the one last chance.


Absolutely false. Bryan wasn't going to make a trade of a 3rd overall selection that was two years into his rookie contract, for peanuts. He made that clear. On the other hand, Nerlens was also a player at a position of excess for us, and was not only about to need a new contract, but he didn't want to be here. Two completely different situations and Bryan made the right choice in keeping Jah over Nerlens.

Come on... Bennett was the first pick and it means nothing after everyone sees him suck in NBA game.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1587 » by Chris76 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:49 am

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Chris76 wrote:
GabeCerebro wrote:
lol imagine thinking that Long and Okafor are two players you would have on a similar trade value level..... They aren't even comparable. Super reach on your part. We weren't, and aren't going to trade Okafor for nothing and the Jah doubters in this fanbase continue to selectively ignore that fact. It has zero to do with how "good or bad" he is in your mind.


If anybody can help Okafor's value, it would be Ben Simmons. A 2-
way forward would be perfect for him. Also, Dario and him would make an interesting combination.


I love Dario (yes I know his flaws) but OK4 and Dario would be a layup line for the other team. it would be like watching a train wreck


They would be going against backups. I understand the lack of rim protection, but what backups would be able to stop their offense. Dario is a good stretch 4, he would set Okafor up for layups.

Bayless/TJ
TLC/Stauskus
Anderson/Poythress
Dario/Holmes
Okafor

That's not a bad bench, 20 mins a game. An aggressive Okafor could be a challenge for most backup bigs.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1588 » by Simmons25 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:25 am

I can only hope that Brett Brown told Okafor he needed to lose weight in the off-season so that he can play in an uptempo style game. I like the way Okafor is looking physically at the moment... if he can translate that mentally and he is ok with being a backup big (and can learn to play SOME defense) then he is going to be ok.

The conundrom then of course is eventually he is going to become a free agent and is probably going to be overpaid or out the door. Like it or not... if his value does go up in any way... we are probably going to be trading him anyway. He hasn't got a long term future here.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1589 » by OleSchool » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:54 am

Chris76 wrote:
OleSchool wrote:
Chris76 wrote:
If anybody can help Okafor's value, it would be Ben Simmons. A 2-
way forward would be perfect for him. Also, Dario and him would make an interesting combination.


I love Dario (yes I know his flaws) but OK4 and Dario would be a layup line for the other team. it would be like watching a train wreck


They would be going against backups. I understand the lack of rim protection, but what backups would be able to stop their offense. Dario is a good stretch 4, he would set Okafor up for layups.

Bayless/TJ
TLC/Stauskus
Anderson/Poythress
Dario/Holmes
Okafor

That's not a bad bench, 20 mins a game. An aggressive Okafor could be a challenge for most backup bigs.


you are way too obsessed with (inefficient) offense
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1590 » by Chris76 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:16 am

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Chris76 wrote:
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I love Dario (yes I know his flaws) but OK4 and Dario would be a layup line for the other team. it would be like watching a train wreck


They would be going against backups. I understand the lack of rim protection, but what backups would be able to stop their offense. Dario is a good stretch 4, he would set Okafor up for layups.

Bayless/TJ
TLC/Stauskus
Anderson/Poythress
Dario/Holmes
Okafor

That's not a bad bench, 20 mins a game. An aggressive Okafor could be a challenge for most backup bigs.


you are way too obsessed with (inefficient) offense


Whether inefficient or not, most likely, these are the players will be cheering to help win games. Also, some teams have worst benches than these guys.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1591 » by 76ciology » Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:54 am

Just as sports is created for the people to promote positive impact to the society.

This game is designed to favor guys who has positive impact to the team.

Okafor plays like a selfish person. Society honors the list of philatrophists, scientists, contributors, heroes and martyrs over forbes list of net worth. Selfless over selfish.

What Okafor needs to focus on other stats outside raw ppg and his opponents ppg. It can be the simpliest things like simple assists, simple screen setting, positional defense and rebounding. These aspects maybe role playerish in nature compared to points per game (which is a star trait), but they provide higher impact in the right context.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1592 » by Misteclipse » Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:20 am

Regardless of whatever happens, here's hoping he never plays another minute in Philadelphia. Legitimately might be the worst player on the roster at this point.

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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1593 » by OleSchool » Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:50 am

Chris76 wrote:
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They would be going against backups. I understand the lack of rim protection, but what backups would be able to stop their offense. Dario is a good stretch 4, he would set Okafor up for layups.

Bayless/TJ
TLC/Stauskus
Anderson/Poythress
Dario/Holmes
Okafor

That's not a bad bench, 20 mins a game. An aggressive Okafor could be a challenge for most backup bigs.


you are way too obsessed with (inefficient) offense


Whether inefficient or not, most likely, these are the players will be cheering to help win games. Also, some teams have worst benches than these guys.


who cares? OK4 can't get his points in BB's offense, and truthfully IDK what offense he would be successful in (maybe Memphis?). BC probably won't pick up his option. His cap space is more valuable than he is
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1594 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:05 pm

Okfafor will ALWAYS be able to get HIS points in ANY system. But that's the point. He gets points for himself. Okafor has the most advanced post skills I have ever seen from someone coming out of college. He has been an awful player so far because his style of play is archaic and he doesn't make the team better.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1595 » by Chris76 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:39 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:Okfafor will ALWAYS be able to get HIS points in ANY system. But that's the point. He gets points for himself. Okafor has the most advanced post skills I have ever seen from someone coming out of college. He has been an awful player so far because his style of play is archaic and he doesn't make the team better.


I agree Okafor has advanced post skills that are difficult to fit in most schemes. It will be a challenge for him to prove his worth. Anyway, Greg Monroe did well in the playoffs, last year. He has the same archaic game as Okafor. Okafor probably has more potential than Monroe. A stronger, better rebounding Okafor could earn a role to help the team better.

Many people want stretch 5s for all the obvious benefits, but a center shooting 3s can have negative effects, too. Often, you see players shooting 3s at bad times, whether it's contested or just a low % shot that they miss badly. Whereas, Okafor knows how to score down low, he could be a huge advantage against certain defenders.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1596 » by europeanfan » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:03 am

Monroe started trying way harder on defense. Okafor is more like Al Jefferson.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1597 » by TTP » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:27 am

Chris76 wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:Okfafor will ALWAYS be able to get HIS points in ANY system. But that's the point. He gets points for himself. Okafor has the most advanced post skills I have ever seen from someone coming out of college. He has been an awful player so far because his style of play is archaic and he doesn't make the team better.


I agree Okafor has advanced post skills that are difficult to fit in most schemes. It will be a challenge for him to prove his worth. Anyway, Greg Monroe did well in the playoffs, last year. He has the same archaic game as Okafor. Okafor probably has more potential than Monroe. A stronger, better rebounding Okafor could earn a role to help the team better.

Many people want stretch 5s for all the obvious benefits, but a center shooting 3s can have negative effects, too. Often, you see players shooting 3s at bad times, whether it's contested or just a low % shot that they miss badly. Whereas, Okafor knows how to score down low, he could be a huge advantage against certain defenders.


Monroe is a great passer and a much better rebounder than Okafor.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1598 » by Negrodamus » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:22 pm

It's going to be great when Okafor is a rebounding, rim protecting big off the bench. Great just like a a 40% 3pt McConnell and a hard nose defender in Stauskas.

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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1599 » by Arsenal » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:25 pm

Perhaps there is a miniscule chance that Okafor actually learns how he should play from Amir Johnson, who would be a good role model for him.
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Post#1600 » by 76ciology » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:49 pm

Negrodamus wrote:It's going to be great when Okafor is a rebounding, rim protecting big off the bench. Great just like a a 40% 3pt McConnell and a hard nose defender in Stauskas.

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