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Post#1581 » by Kobblehead » Wed Mar 3, 2021 3:22 am

George Hill was a major flop for Milwaukee. Not sure he'd be any different for us. His days of beating guys off the dribble appear long gone.
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Post#1583 » by sixers4real » Wed Mar 3, 2021 9:02 am

downtownpie wrote:Colin Sexton

I was thinking for about 5 minutes and still undecided of what to reply to this
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Post#1584 » by Murray_17 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 12:25 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:I also think that in terms of viewing Maxey as a trade chip, we should be looking to balance Daryl's aggressive philosophy with the way the Spurs & Raptors develop their young guys. That might actually be a benefit of Daryl having less than absolute authority over the roster. Maxey is a player that we should absolutely protect unless we're getting a long-term star level contributor like Beal or Lavine. His skills, potential, and future fit with Embiid/Simmons is what we've been searching for over the past 5 years.

Thybulle I'm less concerned with because I think he could just end up like Andre Roberson who was an awesome defender but a huge liability in the playoffs because of his shooting.


If you want to pull out a trade, the only real chips you have to trade are Furkan, Milton, Mattise and Maxey.

No one wants to trade Maxey because we think he's doomed, he's actually the most tradeable chip of the ones we have and in a state of "we want to win now" it makes the most sense to trade him instead of the others. Furkan could be traded too, but his value as a chip is pretty low around the league i would think.
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Post#1585 » by 51X3RF4N » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:28 pm

sixers4real wrote:
downtownpie wrote:Colin Sexton

I was thinking for about 5 minutes and still undecided of what to reply to this
If Cleveland felt like Sexton and Garland wasn't going to work long term, and if they felt Sexton was helping them win too many games, and if they wanted to reset the franchise with lots of future picks, I would 100% be calling about Sexton.

Not sure what all it would take, but matching salary isn't hard. It's just how many picks do they want, and are they looking to dump players on us and take value somewhere else.

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Post#1586 » by youngcrev » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:31 pm

Even if Sexton were to become available, I have a hard time seeing the Sixers being the top bidder with what they have to offer.

...he would he awesome on this team though.
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Post#1587 » by Stanford » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:44 pm

Us talking about acquiring Sexton is like the Knicks board hand rubbing about Embiid being available after that Windhorst statement.
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Post#1588 » by LloydFree » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:48 pm

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Jailblazers7 wrote:I also think that in terms of viewing Maxey as a trade chip, we should be looking to balance Daryl's aggressive philosophy with the way the Spurs & Raptors develop their young guys. That might actually be a benefit of Daryl having less than absolute authority over the roster. Maxey is a player that we should absolutely protect unless we're getting a long-term star level contributor like Beal or Lavine. His skills, potential, and future fit with Embiid/Simmons is what we've been searching for over the past 5 years.

Thybulle I'm less concerned with because I think he could just end up like Andre Roberson who was an awesome defender but a huge liability in the playoffs because of his shooting.


If you want to pull out a trade, the only real chips you have to trade are Furkan, Milton, Mattise and Maxey.

No one wants to trade Maxey because we think he's doomed, he's actually the most tradeable chip of the ones we have and in a state of "we want to win now" it makes the most sense to trade him instead of the others. Furkan could be traded too, but his value as a chip is pretty low around the league i would think.

Furkan Korkmaz is a trade chip?

What's he gonna get, a 3rd round pick?
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Post#1589 » by Murray_17 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 3:01 pm

LloydFree wrote:
What's he gonna get, a 3rd round pick?



That's why i said he's low value and maxey is more tradeable in the same comment.

But if a team is looking for youth, you can add Furkan in some deal
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Post#1590 » by 76ciology » Wed Mar 3, 2021 3:43 pm

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The guy we need should be at the upper right quadrant.
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Post#1591 » by Sportfan73 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 5:26 pm

We have to find a way to get Shake into the starting lineup, just a way better fit for his play style.
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Post#1592 » by kriss73 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:50 pm

Trade proposal by Bontemps, ESPN https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/30956653/five-big-trades-want-see-2021-nba-trade-deadline

Philadelphia 76ers get: Kyle Lowry

Toronto Raptors get: Andre Drummond, Tyrese Maxey, 2021 first-round pick from Philadelphia (unprotected), 2023 first-round pick from Philadelphia (lottery protected, becomes two second-round picks if not conveyed)

Cleveland Cavaliers get: Danny Green, Mike Scott, Terrance Ferguson, 2024 second-round pick from Miami (via Philadelphia)


So, Maxey, 2 first, a starter, depth from the bench and a second for Lowry.
Am I the only one to think this is way too much?
Maybe if Lowry would sign a 2ys/30M after this summer....but again it's really too much imho.
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Post#1593 » by Stanford » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:51 pm

kriss73 wrote:Am the only one to think this is way too much?


It is. Seems crazy
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Post#1594 » by kriss73 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:58 pm

This one is by Pelton (same article)

Charlotte Hornets get: Terrance Ferguson, cash (from Philadelphia)

LA Clippers get: George Hill

Oklahoma City Thunder get: Tony Bradley, Mfiondu Kabengele, Mike Scott, 2021 first-round pick (from Philadelphia)

Philadelphia 76ers get: Lou Williams, Mike Muscala


Better balanced but I probably would get Hill instead of Sweet Lou.
Non need for Muscala: we already know he's unplayable durind playoff season
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Post#1595 » by 76ciology » Wed Mar 3, 2021 7:07 pm

Aint giving up 2 firsts for Lowry and a first for Lou Will.

Those two should do trade proposals for bleacher report instead. I can do better trade proposals compared to them.
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Post#1596 » by 76ciology » Wed Mar 3, 2021 7:11 pm

Sportfan73 wrote:We have to find a way to get Shake into the starting lineup, just a way better fit for his play style.


Trade Seth for Lou Williams. Another is Seth and Ferguson and Bradley for Eric Gordon and a first round pick or a pick swap.

Problem solved.
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Post#1597 » by Skates » Wed Mar 3, 2021 7:11 pm

The playoffs begin now with securing the number one seed so that Milwaukee and the Nets have to play each other first before they play us, so a guy like Muscala who might help here and there during the second half of the season has some value. I am not really a fan of getting Lou Will, he can score, but not run a team and that second unit needs an actual PG on it, plus someone to step in and play big PG minutes any game where Simmons and/or Shake are out. I'd rather have Delon Wright or Hill.
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Post#1598 » by stormi » Wed Mar 3, 2021 7:16 pm

76ciology wrote:Trade Seth for Lou Williams.


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Post#1599 » by LloydFree » Wed Mar 3, 2021 7:22 pm

kriss73 wrote:This one is by Pelton (same article)

Charlotte Hornets get: Terrance Ferguson, cash (from Philadelphia)

LA Clippers get: George Hill

Oklahoma City Thunder get: Tony Bradley, Mfiondu Kabengele, Mike Scott, 2021 first-round pick (from Philadelphia)

Philadelphia 76ers get: Lou Williams, Mike Muscala


Better balanced but I probably would get Hill instead of Sweet Lou.
Non need for Muscala: we already know he's unplayable durind playoff season

I think I'd be sick to my stomach if the 76ers trade a 1st round pick and Mike Scott for Lou Williams and Muscala. Just cut the Clippers out and take George Hill for yourself.

... Besides, Muscala will probably be busy bailing his Dad out, after a 2nd storming of the Capitol...
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Post#1600 » by Stanford » Wed Mar 3, 2021 7:25 pm

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