** Official 2024 Make or Break Offseason Thread **

[Snotbubbles]

LOL this is pathetic.

And with already a sufficient sample size of votes, the tally is 58% in favor of trading Embiid, among a presumably unbiased sample of voters (i.e., knowledgeable fans of various NBA teams).

So, what's pathetic is this board.

You literally went to the place that everybody hates Embiid, what do you expect?

Knicks fans hate Embiid, yet the minute Embiid becomes available in a trade you'll see:

Julius Randle + some bench scrub + 3 FRPs for Embiid proposals.

[Stanford]

Knicks fans hate Embiid

No they don't. They're the only fanbase that takes him seriously other than ours. They've been thirsting after him for years.

[Snotbubbles]

Knicks fans hate Embiid

No they don't. They're the only fanbase that takes him seriously other than ours. They've been thirsting after him for years.

You must not have been in those game threads for the playoffs. One Embiid hater after another.

[Arsenal]

Miles Bridges is looking more and more palatable.

26 years old, big, athletic, willing shooter, only costs capspace to acquire.

He’ll probably only cost $20-25 mil annually, leaving plenty of room to round out the roster.

He’s one of my top 3 realistic choices at this point (ie no LeBron, Mikal, Mitchell).

Agree that Miles Bridges might be the best option. Young, athletic wing who should get better, not worse, since he's only 26 and would be surrounded by all-stars and a great coach for the first time. Plus we get him for a discount because of his past issues. And he only costs money not picks.

Just put a morals clause into his contract and it's a Win Win Win.

Still leaves us around $35m of cap plus the Room Exception to add 3-5 more rotation players.

Sign me up!

[PhillyFan11]

Miles Bridges is looking more and more palatable.

26 years old, big, athletic, willing shooter, only costs capspace to acquire.

He’ll probably only cost $20-25 mil annually, leaving plenty of room to round out the roster.

He’s one of my top 3 realistic choices at this point (ie no LeBron, Mikal, Mitchell).

Honest question- how much better is Bridges than Oubre? Oubre’s time in Charolette resulted in very similar #’s as Bridges put up there. Bridges is a better shooter, but not like he’s a lights out 3 point specialist. Idk I just feel like Oubre gives you probably 85% of what Bridges does at 1/3 of the cost.

Plus I still find it hard to believe Bridges refused to waive his no trade clause at the deadline only to walk a few months later. He’s said he wants to stay in Charolette, but we’ll see.

[SixersSince82]

Regarding whether to keep or trade Embiid, I think the best move is to keep him for now for two reasons.

Second, I don't think there's a significant difference between trading Embiid now and trading him three years from now. In three years, there will likely be a team, similar to the Bucks trading for Dame, that sees Embiid as the final piece and is willing to trade all their picks for him.

You think?

Dame's an elite scorer who has had great playoff moments, whereas Joel has been a shell of himself in the playoffs and has precisely zero big playoff moments. And while Dame's been injured lately he doesn't have nearly the same history of injury as Joel.

It only takes one team so its certainly possible. But man, I think it's better to trade him early than hold on too long. This years the make or break year. If we don't have a sustainable contender that can win in the playoffs with Joel playing at 75% than Id look to trade him next summer.

[Stanford]

Knicks fans hate Embiid

No they don't. They're the only fanbase that takes him seriously other than ours. They've been thirsting after him for years.

You must not have been in those game threads for the playoffs. One Embiid hater after another.

I've been in their threads for 5 years. 6 game threads during a contentious playoff series isn't the sample you should be looking at.

Knick fans have been photoshopping Embiid in a Knicks jersey since the Hawks series.

[Arsenal]

Miles Bridges is looking more and more palatable.

26 years old, big, athletic, willing shooter, only costs capspace to acquire.

He’ll probably only cost $20-25 mil annually, leaving plenty of room to round out the roster.

He’s one of my top 3 realistic choices at this point (ie no LeBron, Mikal, Mitchell).

Honest question- how much better is Bridges than Oubre? Oubre’s time in Charolette resulted in very similar #’s as Bridges put up there. Bridges is a better shooter, but not like he’s a lights out 3 point specialist. Idk I just feel like Oubre gives you probably 85% of what Bridges does at 1/3 of the cost.

Plus I still find it hard to believe Bridges refused to waive his no trade clause at the deadline only to walk a few months later. He’s said he wants to stay in Charolette, but we’ll see.

I think refusing to waive the no-trade was to preserve Bird Rights, not because he loves Charlotte. If we have the top offer on the table best believe he's coming.

Re: Oubre - we should keep him regardless of whether we get Bridges or not. We've been devoid of athletic wings for too long.

[Ferry Avenue]

Pretty sure that other team fans are thinking about the best path for the Sixers lol

Anybody can sit back and have an analysis of what they think another team should do to improve. The point is that roughly 50% of the people asked to do that think the Sixers should trade Embiid as part of that process.

So, the lesson here is obviously that when you take hardcore Sixers fans out of the equation, Embiid becomes far less the treasured commodity.

People are allowed to have their opinion and sometimes those opinions stink. For example, someone may have said in the past that the best trade the Sixers could have made with Ben Simmons is taking back Buddy Hield. It's cool to voice your opinion, but maybe leave it at that...

The point is that there is a substantial difference between hardcore Sixers fans and knowledgeable fans of other NBA teams in terms of whether Embiid should be kept or traded. When you remove a person's allegiance to the Sixers from the equation, their view of Embiid's value to the team decreases substantially.

[eyeatoma]

Anybody can sit back and have an analysis of what they think another team should do to improve. The point is that roughly 50% of the people asked to do that think the Sixers should trade Embiid as part of that process.

So, the lesson here is obviously that when you take hardcore Sixers fans out of the equation, Embiid becomes far less the treasured commodity.

People are allowed to have their opinion and sometimes those opinions stink. For example, someone may have said in the past that the best trade the Sixers could have made with Ben Simmons is taking back Buddy Hield. It's cool to voice your opinion, but maybe leave it at that...

The point is that there is a substantial difference between hardcore Sixers fans and knowledgeable fans of other NBA teams in terms of whether Embiid should be kept or traded. When you remove a person's allegiance to the Sixers from the equation, their view of Embiid's value to the team decreases substantially.

The GB is the opposite of knowledgeable. But hey, you guys got something in common.

[Arsenal]

New offseason plan: Sign OG Anunoby and Miles Bridges with the cap (cut BBall or hopefully trade for a 2nd). Bring back Oubre with the RE. Sign Drummond and Dario for vet min and bring back Lowry, Payne, and Bamba for the same. Draft Tristan da Silva and Alex Karaban. Fill out the 3rd string with vet mins and/or UDFAs. New lineup:

PG Maxey | Lowry | Payne
SG Oubre | Council | Vet min
SF Bridges | Da Silva | Vet min
PF Anunoby | Saric | Karaban
CE Embiid | Drummond | Bamba

That's a tough, long and athletic team that could do serious damage. Plus all the key pieces are young so should continue improving, creating a nice 5-year window for the backend of Embiid's prime.

[Ferry Avenue]

People are allowed to have their opinion and sometimes those opinions stink. For example, someone may have said in the past that the best trade the Sixers could have made with Ben Simmons is taking back Buddy Hield. It's cool to voice your opinion, but maybe leave it at that...

The point is that there is a substantial difference between hardcore Sixers fans and knowledgeable fans of other NBA teams in terms of whether Embiid should be kept or traded. When you remove a person's allegiance to the Sixers from the equation, their view of Embiid's value to the team decreases substantially.

The GB is the opposite of knowledgeable. But hey, you guys got something in common.

Right, you're the expert and they're all idiots.

[ProcessDoctor]

Miles Bridges is looking more and more palatable.

26 years old, big, athletic, willing shooter, only costs capspace to acquire.

He’ll probably only cost $20-25 mil annually, leaving plenty of room to round out the roster.

He’s one of my top 3 realistic choices at this point (ie no LeBron, Mikal, Mitchell).

Honest question- how much better is Bridges than Oubre? Oubre’s time in Charolette resulted in very similar #’s as Bridges put up there. Bridges is a better shooter, but not like he’s a lights out 3 point specialist. Idk I just feel like Oubre gives you probably 85% of what Bridges does at 1/3 of the cost.

Plus I still find it hard to believe Bridges refused to waive his no trade clause at the deadline only to walk a few months later. He’s said he wants to stay in Charolette, but we’ll see.

I think he’s better in a few ways, but I think you have both on the roster in this scenario. Can’t have too many athletes who have multiple skills, as seen in the playoffs.

Miles is such a good rebounder at the 3. He’d help a tremendous amount there.

[Stanford]

Bum down, one to go.

[zaz102]

Anybody can sit back and have an analysis of what they think another team should do to improve. The point is that roughly 50% of the people asked to do that think the Sixers should trade Embiid as part of that process.

So, the lesson here is obviously that when you take hardcore Sixers fans out of the equation, Embiid becomes far less the treasured commodity.

People are allowed to have their opinion and sometimes those opinions stink. For example, someone may have said in the past that the best trade the Sixers could have made with Ben Simmons is taking back Buddy Hield. It's cool to voice your opinion, but maybe leave it at that...

The point is that there is a substantial difference between hardcore Sixers fans and knowledgeable fans of other NBA teams in terms of whether Embiid should be kept or traded. When you remove a person's allegiance to the Sixers from the equation, their view of Embiid's value to the team decreases substantially.

First off, the questions completely lacks context. What are they trading for? If you go on the General board and ask if they should trade Embiid for Bojan Bogdanovic and filler, I think all would say no. If you come here and ask if Embiid should be traded for SGA, Chet, and picks, all would say yes.

I think the General board (similar to the thinking for the Simmons situation) see the issues and flaws and say they better move off of him before it's too late. Here, people see his flaws and say we aren't going to get somebody anywhere near close to his skill level, so we may as well ride with him.

I don't quite understand why you are so annoyed by Sixers fans wanting to stick with Embiid. You were hoping for Buddy Hield for Simmons. Clearly, it's not easy to make the right choice 100% of the time. Maybe let it go.

[FireMorey]

Surprised it took that long for him. His entire reason for posting here was to annoy people.

[sammorey]

Max Paul George or more likely OG
Avdija for 3 1sts
Kennard for $5 million
Melton on a 1+1 for the room exception
Lowry Min
Covington Min
Tristan Thompson Min


Maxey, Lowry
Melton, Kennard
OG, Council
Avdija, Covington
Embiid, Thompson


That's a damn good team. I think Avdija is a great trade target for Morey. He will cost less in picks than Lauri and is cost controlled for 4 years on a declining deal. It will take 3 1sts but I think he's worth it for our exact situation.

[eyeatoma]

The point is that there is a substantial difference between hardcore Sixers fans and knowledgeable fans of other NBA teams in terms of whether Embiid should be kept or traded. When you remove a person's allegiance to the Sixers from the equation, their view of Embiid's value to the team decreases substantially.

The GB is the opposite of knowledgeable. But hey, you guys got something in common.

Right, you're the expert and they're all idiots.

I'm not an expert, but I can spot an idiot a mile away.

[Ferry Avenue]

People are allowed to have their opinion and sometimes those opinions stink. For example, someone may have said in the past that the best trade the Sixers could have made with Ben Simmons is taking back Buddy Hield. It's cool to voice your opinion, but maybe leave it at that...

The point is that there is a substantial difference between hardcore Sixers fans and knowledgeable fans of other NBA teams in terms of whether Embiid should be kept or traded. When you remove a person's allegiance to the Sixers from the equation, their view of Embiid's value to the team decreases substantially.

First off, the questions completely lacks context. What are they trading for? If you go on the General board and ask if they should trade Embiid for Bojan Bogdanovic and filler, I think all would say no. If you come here and ask if Embiid should be traded for SGA, Chet, and picks, all would say yes.

I think the General board (similar to the thinking for the Simmons situation) see the issues and flaws and say they better move off of him before it's too late. Here, people see his flaws and say we aren't going to get somebody anywhere near close to his skill level, so we may as well ride with him.

I don't quite understand why you are so annoyed by Sixers fans wanting to stick with Embiid. You were hoping for Buddy Hield for Simmons. Clearly, it's not easy to make the right choice 100% of the time. Maybe let it go.

Let's put it this way -- when you ask the question whether Embiid should be kept or traded here, it's assumed you're trolling. When you ask it there, the question is given reasonable consideration and feedback, to the tune of ~50% believing it would be advantageous to the Sixers to trade him, because Embiid is viewed differently by knowledgeable NBA fans who don't have a Sixers allegiance.

[mjkvol]

Miles Bridges is looking more and more palatable.

26 years old, big, athletic, willing shooter, only costs capspace to acquire.

He is the most perfect fit from a team building standpoint - young, fits exactly what we need around Embiid and Maxey, and allows flexibility for more moves to be made. This city has absorbed and accepted athletes with personal issues before (Michael Vick), and if this kid owns up to his mistakes and shows that what's in the past is past, he'll be embraced here.