Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent

[PhillySixers22]

Like wtf am I reading??? Noel is a 15 to 20 mill per year type player????? Wtf? He was a non starter on a 10 win team. Think about that. Averages something like 9ppg and 8rpg off top of my head. Teague is an all star.. is he amazing? No, but hes a better bball player than noel, and thats a fact

Well I would hope Teague at 28 is currently a better player than Noel, but that's not what this is about. Noel is a valuable trade chip that shouldn't be wasted for a 1 year rental of an average PG. Again there is no need to rush things and this deal is doing exactly that.

Actually, there kinda is a rush. Noel's contract is quickly ending. You've gotta make a decision soon.

I didn't necessarily mean Noel's contract decision as much as the direction of the team and our rebuild. I think a big part of the problem that I have and I'm assuming others do as well is the reputation BC has and how this sort of deal fits that profile. The fact that his first move (potentially) fits that m.o. so perfectly makes me believe it will lead to similar moves, as was mentioned in an early post in this thread about how long before be burns through our assets. I would be happy to have Teague on board running the show until Simmons takes full control, but not for Noel.

[BullyKing]

FWIW:

Id much rather sign DJ Augustin

So why are we arguing? That is precisely my point. Just sign someone semi-competent rather than trading Noel for someone who is either going to walk in a year or sign a contract that makes the trade even worse?

Because

1.I prefer to look at things through another lens. While I don't necessarily support the notion, I can see the logic in trying to put a good "win now" player around Simmons/Embiid/Okafor. Developing them is priority #1 and if something like this helps do so, its worth the price.

2.I view Noel as being in the same situation as Teague. He is either going to bolt for a starting gig elsewhere if we don't figure out our big man situation or will be resigned to a large deal and be stuck fighting for minutes with Embiid/Okafor.

Our "big 3" of Okafor/Noel/Embiid can not stay intact.

But none of that is a reason to trade to for Teague. If you need to trade Noel, then do it for someone young that fits the core. Then, as you said, just sign Augustin.

[BullyKing]

Haha, now Pompey is saying we would also be sending Covington and Stauskas.

Something comforting from thereõ:

This time, the Sixers are shopping Noel and center/power Jahlil Okafor to “at least 15 teams” to see where they can get the best deal, according to the source.

It's not comforting because that would assume Colangelo has any idea of what the best deal is.

[PhilasFinest]

This is simply a leak to try and stir up more trade talk.

Last week it was #3 for Okafor.
Then it was the Bulls called about Okafor.
Then it was Boston prefers Noel.
Then it was Chicago getting Noel for a package around Rose.
Now its Atlanta getting Noel for a package around Teague.

We're 21 days from the draft, and have a new GM with a log jam at the center position. Id expect a few more "trade talk" rumors to pop up in the next few weeks. Until something officially happens, I wont light the house on fire and go ape ****.

[CoreyGallagher]

Nobody is going to give Colangelo the benefit of the doubt in any of these rumored deals, I hope he's not this stupid, but we'll see. Has to prove it.

[Skates]

So this would be an incredibly crappy deal on the road towards mediocrity. Totally pissing away a young asset on a guy leaving his physical prime and with UFA status in a year. He is either a crappy one year rental or we do a massive overpay for a mediocre guy entering his thirties. Eat me.

[King Ken]

I don't see why Atlanta would do this unless they believe Milsap can play SF.....
For us, it really has to be a confidence thing that A: Teague will resign B: Okafor will learn how to play defense or Embiid will be healthy
Teague/Stauskas/Simmons/Okafor/Embiid (Saric 6th Man) Teague/Stauskas/Simmons/Saric/Okafor (Embiid 6th Man)
Don't think It's going to Happen but I'm bracing myself to like it hahahahaha

Probably because they don't plan on keeping/paying Horford.

We plan on keeping Horford at all cost. But I already had insiders tell me most of the team was on the block. Horford and Korver ain't on the block. Al is clearly not as a FA but Atlanta wants him back. They aren't close to done making moves.

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[saintEscaton]

Wow this would be the ultimate treadmill move just for the sake of clearing a logjam. You guys really need one of those blue chip wing prospects in the stacked 2017 class to complete your core. Can't just count on the Lakers pick conveying. BC undoing Hinkie's hard work in one fell swoop. Schroder would actually make sense as he actaully fits yur window of opportunity but guess Atlanta ain't budging

[Winejk]

Damn, goes to show Nerlens is more valued in the league. Nobody wants non-defending, non-rebounding big man like Okafor. This sucks..

Really? Is that what is shows? Look at that deal again...


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Been shopping Okafor all over the league. Nobody wants him.

Who are your sources on that?

[Stanford]

So this would be an incredibly crappy deal on the road towards mediocrity. Totally pissing away a young asset on a guy leaving his physical prime and with UFA status in a year. He is either a crappy one year rental or we do a massive overpay for a mediocre guy entering his thirties. Eat me.

If Jojo is healthy and Simmons is the real deal, I don't think we'll have to worry about mediocrity.

[Sundown]

2.I view Noel as being in the same situation as Teague. He is either going to bolt for a starting gig elsewhere if we don't figure out our big man situation or will be resigned to a large deal and be stuck fighting for minutes with Embiid/Okafor.

Our "big 3" of Okafor/Noel/Embiid can not stay intact.

He can't "bolt." He's restricted. If we decided we didn't want to resign him we could always sign and trade.


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[PhilasFinest]

2.I view Noel as being in the same situation as Teague. He is either going to bolt for a starting gig elsewhere if we don't figure out our big man situation or will be resigned to a large deal and be stuck fighting for minutes with Embiid/Okafor.

Our "big 3" of Okafor/Noel/Embiid can not stay intact.

He can't "bolt." He's restricted. If we decided we didn't want to resign him we could always sign and trade.


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I know that. Rarely do teams get anything resembling actual value in a S&T in that type of situation.

[76erStu]

Trades that get reported when in the rumor/discussion stage like this do not ever get done.

[Kobblehead]

Someone add a poll to the OP.

[BullyKing]

Trades that get reported when in the rumor/discussion stage like this do not ever get done.

Kevin Love to Cavs?

[Ericb5]

So this would be an incredibly crappy deal on the road towards mediocrity. Totally pissing away a young asset on a guy leaving his physical prime and with UFA status in a year. He is either a crappy one year rental or we do a massive overpay for a mediocre guy entering his thirties. Eat me.

If Jojo is healthy and Simmons is the real deal, I don't think we'll have to worry about mediocrity.

Amen.

The road to mediocrity isn't likely to happen now that we won the lottery, and if Embiid can continue to progress, and stay healthy then we are absolutely golden.

Stauskus is meaningless to me, and Covington is a minor piece.

Since Covington is a positive value player though, if he is really being added to Noel in this deal then something else has to be in play. If it IS just for Teague then he would have to extend at a reasonable amount.

This could all just be BS though.


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[Sundown]

This is simply a leak to try and stir up more trade talk.

Last week it was #3 for Okafor.
Then it was the Bulls called about Okafor.
Then it was Boston prefers Noel.
Then it was Chicago getting Noel for a package around Rose.
Now its Atlanta getting Noel for a package around Teague.

We're 21 days from the draft, and have a new GM with a log jam at the center position. Id expect a few more "trade talk" rumors to pop up in the next few weeks. Until something officially happens, I wont light the house on fire and go ape ****.

You do realize the difference between randos throwing out trade scenarios and a legitimate source being told what the two teams are discussing?

I'm not saying this is going to get done, but there is a reason to take this more seriously.


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[BullyKing]

Someone add a poll to the OP.

What are the options?

I'm out
Kill me
Finding another team
Nut shot

[Stanford]

Why would we be including Covington in the deal? Doesn't make any sense.

[BullyKing]

Isn't some of the benefit of Simmons supposed to be that we don't need a PG like Teague?