Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason

[76ciology]

Would Philly trade #21 for Seth Curry? I'm thinking Scott + Smith + 21 for Curry. Just trying to gauge interest. Dallas wouldn't do this deal straight up, but there could be some 3-team possibilities.

Yes. But Mavs wont do it from their perspectibe

[JRoy]

Philly gets McCollum and Ariza
Portland gets Aldridge, Richardson, 21, and 36
San Antonio gets Horford, 16, and 34

Hard pass from POR.

Give up the best player and get a downgrade, a backup we don’t need and late picks.

Pass.

[76ciology]

Short term compete with long term cap space

Bulls receives:
Tobias Harris
- Upgrade to Markanen

Pistons receives:
- Al Horford
- Markanen
- Josh Richardson
- 21st pick

Sixers Receives:
- Otto Porter (expiring)
- Blake Griffin (short contract)
- Derrick Rose (expiring)
- Pistons 2022 First Rounder (top 5 pick protected)

Sixers starting 5:
Ben Simmons
Shake Milton
Otto Porter
Blake Griffin
Embiid

6th man: DRose

[Wilfried]

Short term compete with long term cap space

Bulls receives:
Tobias Harris
- Upgrade to Markanen

Pistons receives:
- Al Horford
- Markanen
- Josh Richardson
- 21st pick

Sixers Receives:
- Otto Porter (expiring)
- Blake Griffin (short contract)
- Derrick Rose (expiring)
- Pistons 2022 First Rounder (top 5 pick protected)

Sixers starting 5:
Derrick Rose
Ben Simmons
Otto Porter
Blake Griffin
Embiid

Cool, Simmons as our SG. To be honest, in that team, his shooting isn't that far off from the others

[76ciology]

Short term compete with long term cap space

Bulls receives:
Tobias Harris
- Upgrade to Markanen

Pistons receives:
- Al Horford
- Markanen
- Josh Richardson
- 21st pick

Sixers Receives:
- Otto Porter (expiring)
- Blake Griffin (short contract)
- Derrick Rose (expiring)
- Pistons 2022 First Rounder (top 5 pick protected)

Sixers starting 5:
Derrick Rose
Ben Simmons
Otto Porter
Blake Griffin
Embiid

Cool, Simmons as our SG. To be honest, in that team, his shooting isn't that far off from the others

Oh sorry.

Ben can be PG then have Rose as more of a combo guard SG.

Ben can also start at PG with Milton as SG.

Then we can have Rose as back-up PG.

[LeTimmAy]

My suggestion:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y62ccj6f


Philadelphia 76ers
O. Porter Jr.$27,250,575N/A
Zach LaVine$19,500,000N/A
T. Young$12,900,000N/A
T. Satoransky$10,000,000N/A
C. Felicio$8,156,500N/A


Chicago Bulls
T. Harris$32,742,000N/A
Al Horford$28,000,000N/A
J. Richardson$10,116,576N/A

[ProcessDoctor]

Who says no?


DAL out: Curry, Wright, #18, #31
DAL in: Richardson, Scott, #12


PHI out: Horford, Richardson, Scott, #21
PHI in: Hield, Bjelica, Wright


SAC out: Hield, Bjelica, #12
SAC in: Horford, Curry, #18, #21, #31


Simmons(28)/Wright(20)
Hield(32)/Milton(16)
Thybulle(30)/Korkmaz(18)
Harris(32)/Bjelica(10)/Simmons(6)
Embiid(30)/Bjelica(18)


Simmons/Wright/#36
Hield/Milton/Smith
Thybulle/Korkmaz/Shayok
Harris/#34/#49
Embiid/Bjelica/Pelle

[ankle420breaker]

One scenario im looking now is..

Trading Al and Tobi for attractive assets and cap relief. Which can help us in the short term. While also giving us the flexibility to trade the accumulated assets (with or without Biid and Ben) for a mvp caliber or top 5 talent.

They only way we're going to be able to dump Horford or Harris is if we target a franchise that can't attract free agents.

Memphis seems like a good target. I would love Winslow/Anderson coming back.

This would be a win and Memphis should be on Morey's short list of potential landing spots for Harris/Horford (along with Charlotte, Sacramento, and Cleveland).

Both are experienced, capable defenders. SlowMo is a ridiculously intelligent glue-guy starter and somehow Winslow is still just 24.

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[Kobblehead]

Would Philly trade #21 for Seth Curry? I'm thinking Scott + Smith + 21 for Curry. Just trying to gauge interest. Dallas wouldn't do this deal straight up, but there could be some 3-team possibilities.

No, of course not.

The only attractive piece to me that may be available on Dallas' roster is Delon Wright.

Josh Richardson, #21, #34 and #36

for

Delon Wright, #18, and #31

[youngcrev]

Who says no?


DAL out: Curry, Wright, #18, #31
DAL in: Richardson, Scott, #12


PHI out: Horford, Richardson, Scott, #21
PHI in: Hield, Bjelica, Wright


SAC out: Hield, Bjelica, #12
SAC in: Horford, Curry, #18, #21, #31


Simmons(28)/Wright(20)
Hield(32)/Milton(16)
Thybulle(30)/Korkmaz(18)
Harris(32)/Bjelica(10)/Simmons(6)
Embiid(30)/Bjelica(18)


Simmons/Wright/#36
Hield/Milton/Smith
Thybulle/Korkmaz/Shayok
Harris/#34/#49
Embiid/Bjelica/Pelle

Us, hopefully. Dallas gets out of future salary, gets an upgrade to their starting lineup AND moves up in the draft?

I think Richardson/Scott for Curry/Wright/#18 is fair.

[Kobblehead]

Yeah, I've had my eyes on those jumbo-sized defensive Memphis wings for quite a while.

It's time we put those overrated Celtics Fs in their place.

Ben Simmons, Kyle Anderson, Justice Winslow + sign a free agent like Josh Jackson, Jae Crowder, Stanely Johnson, etc. They won't know what hit them.

We'd be equipped to guard any F-sized star in the league in a playoff series.

[ProcessDoctor]

Anderson + Winslow would be a nice get for Horford. What else would we have add though?

[Kobblehead]

Anderson + Winslow would be a nice get for Horford. What else would we have add though?

If it's Harris, it's probably Harris + Smith (or Scott) for Dieng, Anderson, Winslow
If it's Horford, it's probably just Al for Dieng and one of Anderson/Winslow (not both).

I wouldn't mind a scenario where we could add more salary and get Tyus Jones back. Although they really like him and just signed him last summer so they probably don't want to part with him. I'm hoping we draft his brother at #21 and would be cool to have the Jones brothers on the same team (good kids, great defenders).

[ProcessDoctor]

Anderson + Winslow would be a nice get for Horford. What else would we have add though?

If it's Harris, it's probably Harris + Smith (or Scott) for Dieng, Anderson, Winslow
If it's Horford, it's probably just Al for Dieng and one of Anderson/Winslow (not both).

That Horford deal would be intriguing. I’d do Horford for Dieng + Anderson. Follow that up with Richardson/Scott/Smith/#21 for Oladipo.


Simmons(34)/Milton(14)
Oladipo(32)/Korkmaz(10)/Milton(6)
Thybulle(30)/Anderson(12)/Korkmaz(6)
Harris(32)/Anderson(16)
Embiid(30)/Dieng(18)


Simmons/Milton/#49
Oladipo/Korkmaz/#36
Thybulle/#34/Shayok
Harris/Anderson
Embiid/Dieng/Pelle

[TingusP]

Would Philly trade #21 for Seth Curry? I'm thinking Scott + Smith + 21 for Curry. Just trying to gauge interest. Dallas wouldn't do this deal straight up, but there could be some 3-team possibilities.

No, of course not.

The only attractive piece to me that may be available on Dallas' roster is Delon Wright.

Josh Richardson, #21, #34 and #36

for

Delon Wright, #18, and #31

I'd accept that for Dallas, but it does feel like too much of a return for Wright. Then again, I've been struggling to judge his trade value for a while now. His stock has tanked in the eyes of many Mavs fans because his salary could be an obstacle to Giannis.

[Kobblehead]

I think it's fair deal for both sides.

Sixers get a better skillset with worse production.
Mavs get more production from a worse skillset.

Sixers get compensated for parting with the more productive player by moving up in the draft at two different slots.
Mavs get compensated for moving down at two different slots in the draft by receiving an additional pick in the top 40.

[BullyKing]

It's awful. Richardson is not a great fit for this team but he's clearly more valuable than Wright.

[Kobblehead]

It's awful. Richardson is not a great fit for this team but he's clearly more valuable than Wright.

In what way? I haven't delved into any advanced metrics between the two, but the only thing I see that Richardson offers over Wright is scoring production. In terms of individual attributes, Wright blows him away in just about every category. Better defender, better scorer off the dribble, better passer, smarter player, etc.

Besides, getting to move up in two different spots of the draft is a pretty great compensation for parting with the more productive player.

[76ciology]

Nets:

Tobias Harris

Reason:
Dinwiddie is out of place with Kyrie. Tobi gives them a 20ppg player who can compliment two ball dominant guys.

Kyrie-Lavert-KD-Tobi-DJ
^ pretty good starting 5

Kings:

Al Horford
Shake Milton

It all starts with Hield wanting to play for Sixers.
Kings can draft Nesmith with their pick to play starting SF.

Al compliments Bagley’s non existent 3pt shooting while Milton can compliment the ball dominant Fox. Al would be useful against 7 games series against the LAL or Den, something Holmes can’t provide against bigger Cs.

Fox-Milton-Nesmith-Bagley-Al

Bulls:

Josh Richardson
Prince
21st pick

- rather than losing Otto Porter to nothing next season they got a decent return with Jrich, Prince and 21st pick

Sixers:

Buddy Hield
Spencer Dinwiddie
Otto Porter

Dinwiddie
Hield
Otto Porter
Ben
Biid

Dinwiddie gives the sixers a much needed playmaking, who can also shoot.
Hield can play on or off the ball, a cheaper Tobias Harris. Porter can play decent defense and stretch the floor.

[BullyKing]

It's awful. Richardson is not a great fit for this team but he's clearly more valuable than Wright.

In what way? I haven't delved into any advanced metrics between the two, but the only thing I see that Richardson offers over Wright is scoring production. In terms of individual attributes, Wright blows him away in just about every category. Better defender, better scorer off the dribble, better passer, smarter player, etc.

Besides, getting to move up in two different spots of the draft is a pretty great compensation for parting with the more productive player.

He's better at getting to the line but he hurts spacing and its going to be difficult for him to even get in the lane with our spacing as is. You could probably get him from Dallas for just Mike Scott and Zhaire Smith to get him off their books. They might even kick in #31 for it.