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Post#161 » by Monix » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:13 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I have some interest in Justin Powell as a 2nd rounder.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/justin-powell-1.html

Listed at 6'6" 205 pounds.

Shooter with a 30%+ assist rate. Looking like he can both run the offense and operate as an off-ball wing. Fantastic versatility potential.

this guy hasn't played in almost 6 weeks due to a concussion
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Post#162 » by Kobblehead » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:19 pm

Yikes, just did more research and apparently Powell also mailed in his senior year in highschool after he suffered a groin injury (cough LeBron). Sounds like it could be another Fultz.
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Post#163 » by Kobblehead » Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:50 pm

Marvin Bagley's little brother might be interesting as a Mike Scott replacement. Dude bombs threes and is listed at 6'8" 220+.
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Post#164 » by Monix » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:33 pm

are you just sorting random stats on an injury report? Bagley hasn't played in a game this month, lol
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Post#165 » by Kobblehead » Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:16 am

I was talking about Josh Christopher earlier, are you going to update me on his leg bruise? Super relevant to their eventual NBA careers.
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Post#166 » by Negrodamus » Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:49 pm

I'll admit I've been pretty bad about this class, but I just caught a glimpse of an early big board. Am I missing something with Oscar da Silva being left off all together? It seems he's a force on both ends, plays quite a bit of faceup offense while showing competency in his handles.



Perhaps his length/athleticism is in question, but he seems like a heady player who is putting up great advanced stats.
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Post#167 » by Kobblehead » Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:10 pm

Silva has the body and shot contesting ability to have value. Gotta wonder why he's never point an emphasis on developing shooting range over 4 years in school, though. Also, he should be a better rebounder than he is, especially on the defensive glass.
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Post#168 » by Kobblehead » Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:41 pm

Moses Moody taking down Alabama was impressive. Not a strong creator but he is not a dribble zero. He's not a great defender, but he might be able to function as a cog in a good unit. He's kinda similar to Josh Richardson is many ways. He even has an identical body and build.

I think he's going to be a good pro.
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Post#169 » by Negrodamus » Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:58 am

Once again, haven't been watching as much this season, but is Franz Wagner a lottery pick? Everything about his stats suggest this is the case.
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Post#170 » by No-Man » Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:17 pm

He is, or should be, I think he is top20 right now but probable to climb to late lotto status

I have always like da Silva since I saw him at youth levels in FIBA with Germany but to answer your question I think it is about him not being aggressive enough on offense, he is a gregarious type player, but he should be a nice and modern 4th big kinda, I would take him mid 2nd gladly which I think will end up being the high end of his range, more likely to end up playing over in Europe or getting a 2-way
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Post#171 » by Kobblehead » Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:15 pm

Wagner has a nice combination of some key skills: shotcreation, team defense, passing, efficiency, free throw percentage. And he's huge. He's a sophomore I've definitely had my eye on. He seems pretty young for a sophomore, too. He's younger than Suggs and Mobley (freshmen), for instance. Quite a few others, as well.
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Post#172 » by Kobblehead » Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:43 pm

Wagner looks amazing today.
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Post#173 » by Kobblehead » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:05 pm

Cade in a overtime thriller against Oklahoma. Looks like a star, for sure.
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Post#174 » by No-Man » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:39 pm

Wagner reminds me of Hayward, bit less athletic but still, could develop into that
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Post#175 » by Kobblehead » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:36 pm

I mentioned Marcus Bagley as a Mike Scott replacement. Another guy is Julian Champagnie of St. Johns.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/julian-champagnie-1.html

6'8" 220 pound Sophomore
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Post#176 » by Negrodamus » Tue Mar 2, 2021 5:01 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I mentioned Marcus Bagley as a Mike Scott replacement. Another guy is Julian Champagnie of St. Johns.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/julian-champagnie-1.html

6'8" 220 pound Sophomore


What about Justin Champagnie from Pitt? Without watching his games, his stats suggest he's a pretty damn good prospect.

Edit: just watched a bit of him, looks like an undersized PF assist converter.
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Post#177 » by Negrodamus » Tue Mar 2, 2021 5:15 pm

Man, Cameron Thomas has some interesting numbers. Appears to be a pure scorer and nothing else. 8 AST% and -1.4 DBPM?!? How does that happen at LSU? He must be completely clueless on the defensive end. Even pure scorers like Terrence Ross and Buddy Hield showed competency on the defensive end.
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Post#178 » by Negrodamus » Tue Mar 2, 2021 5:31 pm



Bones Hyland seems like he checks all the boxes. Only 20 years old, decent distributor, near .300 FTr, 38% from 3 on eight 3PA per game, 3.5 STL%. He looks taller than 6'3 on the court, perhaps he has a plus wingspan?

I don't know what his projection is currently. Saw on one site he's a 2nd rounder which seems low. Maybe I haven't watched enough of him to see his glaring weaknesses.
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Post#179 » by Kobblehead » Tue Mar 2, 2021 5:33 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I mentioned Marcus Bagley as a Mike Scott replacement. Another guy is Julian Champagnie of St. Johns.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/julian-champagnie-1.html

6'8" 220 pound Sophomore


What about Justin Champagnie from Pitt? Without watching his games, his stats suggest he's a pretty damn good prospect.

Edit: just watched a bit of him, looks like an undersized PF assist converter.

Yeah, neither brother appears to have much talent outside of being help defenders that convert assists on the offensive end. Of the two, Julian probably projects best at the NBA level due to his size and establishing shooting trait.
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Post#180 » by Kobblehead » Tue Mar 2, 2021 5:57 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Man, Cameron Thomas has some interesting numbers. Appears to be a pure scorer and nothing else. 8 AST% and -1.4 DBPM?!? How does that happen at LSU? He must be completely clueless on the defensive end. Even pure scorers like Terrence Ross and Buddy Hield showed competency on the defensive end.


After digging into the numbers, I'm not a fan of Cam Thomas. He doesn't attack the rim at all. Calls to mind guys like Cam Reddish (without the d), Immanuel Quickley, Luke Kennard, Isaiah Joe, Gary Trent, etc.

Like most of those guys, he'll be a useful pro as a spacer, but his 20 ppg as a freshman are deceptive and imply he's capable of being a franchise piece (which I don't think he is).

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