2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft

[Kobblehead]

Durant was a twig in college, too. I think he couldn’t even do a push up at the combine if I remember correctly, and he turned out to become one of the all time greats. I think everyone that has ever worked with Chet raves about his skill level.

FWIw, I have it as ultimately Jabari at 1, followed by Chet at 2 and Banchero at 3. Jabari is going to be a super sized Paul George.

Durant played at 215 at Texas. So while being several inches shorter than Chet, Durant had a legit 20 pounds on him. That's pretty wild to think about.

Chet has a really thin shoulder width, also. Making it unlikely that he'll ever be able to bulk up and carry weight.

[Kobblehead]

36 Pts(14-19 FGs, 8-11 FTs)
18 Rebs
4 Ast

Baby Randle?

Zion without the freakish leap?

Kenny Loften's advanced stats were crazy as a freshman. What are you supposed to do with this guy, though? He's a legit conditioning catastrophe.

[stormi]

36 Pts(14-19 FGs, 8-11 FTs)
18 Rebs
4 Ast

Baby Randle?

Zion without the freakish leap?

Kenny Loften's advanced stats were crazy as a freshman. What are you supposed to do with this guy, though? He's a legit conditioning catastrophe.

Yea his transferability seems extremely odd on both ends of the floor. Maybe a small ball five? I can't imagine he'd have any success chasing forwards around the perimeter.

[Negrodamus]

Of the Kentucky guys, I'm lowkey most interested in Bryce Hopkins. Feels like an SGA type breakout guy when we are 10-13 games into the season. Three level scorer with size, bulk, and a nice shot. Feels a little buried right now, but we'll turn to him when guys like Lance Ware aren't cutting the mustard.

[Kobblehead]

I really like Blake Wesley out of Notre Dame. One of the best recruits they've had in a while. Playing a small role right now, but looks to be a dynamic scorer just begging to break out.

Some Anfernee Simons to his game.

[KramerDSP]

Durant was a twig in college, too. I think he couldn’t even do a push up at the combine if I remember correctly, and he turned out to become one of the all time greats. I think everyone that has ever worked with Chet raves about his skill level.

FWIw, I have it as ultimately Jabari at 1, followed by Chet at 2 and Banchero at 3. Jabari is going to be a super sized Paul George.

Durant played at 215 at Texas. So while being several inches shorter than Chet, Durant had a legit 20 pounds on him. That's pretty wild to think about.

Chet has a really thin shoulder width, also. Making it unlikely that he'll ever be able to bulk up and carry weight.

That does give me significant pause. Twenty pounds *lighter* than College Durant isn’t optimal.

[Kobblehead]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pokusal01.html

I think Poku and Chet have pretty much the same body/build and are nearly identical from the skillset perspective. I think both have tantalizing gifts but deal-breaking lack of positional size.

[Kobblehead]

Alright, Keegan Murray playing against a legit competition for the first time this year and still lighting it up. This guy is for real. He may be 21, but I think he should get top 10 consideration.

[DCasey91]

Murray’s my favorite prospect this year sucks that he’ll be 22 come draft time but he’s playing like kid Giannis with a jumper. Dude should be player of the year by a decent margin. Destroying is putting it lightly

Chet is like a more skillful 7ft Zingis who doesn’t mind contact at all then Poku. Poku plays small and doesn’t like contact. Same with Kristaps

Don’t care about his upper body it’s fine it’s knees down that’s a valid concern that’s the only thing. Skillwise he’s number one, it’s rare to find a big with that much skill.

Remember Ingram went number 2.

Can’t teach what he has at some point you either have it or you don’t.

[76ciology]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pokusal01.html

I think Poku and Chet have pretty much the same body/build and are nearly identical from the skillset perspective. I think both have tantalizing gifts but deal-breaking lack of positional size.

Poku has been one of the Thunder’s best defensive player per 100 possessions or atleast not a liability this season.

Chet can roll, catch lobs, shoot 3 on PnR or shoot one legged jumpers off defenders on ISO. Chet also projects to be a 3 level scorer.

I do think Chet can be a good team defender, in terms of switching, rotating to challenging shooters and protecting the paint. Like how Boucher is on defense.

I dont think Paolo and Jabari are on a level that you can pick them over Chet.

Chet is also that prospect GMs like to play safe with drafting high because of their unique specs like Ayton, Ben and Bagley.

Again, things could change and we can have a clearer picture by end of the season

[DCasey91]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pokusal01.html

I think Poku and Chet have pretty much the same body/build and are nearly identical from the skillset perspective. I think both have tantalizing gifts but deal-breaking lack of positional size.

Poku has been one of the Thunder’s best defensive player per 100 possessions or atleast not a liability this season.

Chet can roll, catch lobs, shoot 3 on PnR or shoot one legged jumpers off defenders on ISO. Chet also projects to be a 3 level scorer.

I do think Chet can be a good team defender, in terms of switching, rotating to challenging shooters and protecting the paint. Like how Boucher is on defense.

I dont think Paolo and Jabari are on a level that you can pick them over Chet.

Chet is also that prospect GMs like to play safe with drafting high because of their unique specs like Ayton, Ben and Bagley.

Again, things could change and we can have a clearer picture by end of the season

One is not like the other my man. Wendell was better than Bagley on the team. Bagley was just bouncy as hell and was overeliant on athleticism rather than skill. The Josh Jackson special

Chet is very very skillful more than Banch/Jabari currently but Smith has what it takes.

Unique specs would be something like AD/Zion/Luka tier who all three are very skillful, more advanced and positional mismatches walking around pre draft year. Zion’s touch and mobility for his humungous girth is fantastic, AD was a massive defensive anchor without being physically adapted and could handle the rock and Luka was a prodigy now he’s gone full fat Euro Harden lol. Mobley fits that unique spec description to a tee. Best facilitator out of the bigs coming out in recent times, top 3 defender (better than AD in his rookie year now so 2) and second best scorer after Ayton.

Ayton
Davis
Embiid
Towns
Adebayo
Bosh

Check Mobleys numbers it stacks up extremely well across the board. There was really nothing raw about him. It’s all upside which is top ten best player in the comp in due time.

[Negrodamus]

Josh Jackson was extremely skillful. That wasn’t the problem. He was unfortunately insane also. Didn’t help that his shot was all the way broken.

[DCasey91]

Wait isn’t that counterintuitive, extremely skillful yet his shot was broken? Isn’t shooting a skill?

I’d class extremely skillful as someone who is that. Trae coming out, Luka coming out, AD. Against the peers their skill level was describing chalk and cheese.

JJ is another one that relies towards athleticism more than skill. I watched him at Kansas wonderful athlete but as you say questionable jump shooter to put it lightly. It was like a straight Lonzo lol.

I thought Suggs would be less so turns out I was wrong damn because he was so sound mentality wise also is smaller from College to NBA.

[stormi]

Josh Jackson was extremely skillful. That wasn’t the problem. He was unfortunately insane also. Didn’t help that his shot was all the way broken.

Unfortunately I was on the JJ@3 train in 2017. That was the last time I took a prospect with shaky FT%'s seriously.

Although I still really like the player today. He's still usually doing good things on the court whenever I watch him play.

[stormi]

I would never ever draft Chet Holmgren over Jabari Smith

[Negrodamus]

Wait isn’t that counterintuitive, extremely skillful yet his shot was broken? Isn’t shooting a skill?

I’d class extremely skillful as someone who is that. Trae coming out, Luka coming out, AD. Against the peers their skill level was describing chalk and cheese.

JJ is another one that relies towards athleticism more than skill. I watched him at Kansas wonderful athlete but as you say questionable jump shooter to put it lightly. It was like a straight Lonzo lol.

I thought Suggs would be less so turns out I was wrong damn because he was so sound mentality wise also is smaller from College to NBA.

With this logic, we drafted the least skilled player ever with the first overall pick and then traded up for the second lowest skilled player the following year. Shooting is A skill; it's not THE all encompassing skill.

[Negrodamus]

Josh Jackson was extremely skillful. That wasn’t the problem. He was unfortunately insane also. Didn’t help that his shot was all the way broken.

Unfortunately I was on the JJ@3 train in 2017. That was the last time I took a prospect with shaky FT%'s seriously.

Although I still really like the player today. He's still usually doing good things on the court whenever I watch him play.

It certainly wasn't wrong to like him as a prospect, but his ceiling was elite role player, imo. Without looking, his BLK%, STL%, AST% and FTr were insane. Everything aligned with him being a superstar except for his FT% and the eye test on his extremely awful jumpshot. I've yet to see a player turn into a superstar with a busted form.

On top of that, there were some red flags that he was a bit of a hot head and probably not emotionally stable at the time. Those attributes are the difference between us watching guys on tape and FO being able to sit with them and get a mental gauge on the prospect. The information at our disposal is honestly like 1/3 of the puzzle when deciding if a player is going to pan out.

[Kobblehead]

K.D. Johnson might be a munchkin, but damn, he's a two way tank. He would instantly be our best defensive backcourt player and he's a relentless bomber from three.

[Kobblehead]

Through 7 games, I think Jabari Smith is the best prospect I've seen in a decade.

[Kobblehead]

Trevor Keels might not have a huge upside as a scorer, but it's so easy to project him at the next level as someone who will help your team on both ends.