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Post#161 » by Iscull » Tue Feb 4, 2025 12:26 am

Negrodamus wrote:I’d do Dyson Daniel, Capela, and Hunter + pick for PG.


If we turn PG into those guys, Morey would have won executive of the year if it wasn't for the Luka trade.

Dyson Daniel may be the perfect guard next to Maxey.

Capela is a solid defensive/rebounding big who can start in a pinch when Embiid's hurt.

Hunter will replace the minutes that PG would get if he ever played.
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Post#162 » by Mik317 » Tue Feb 4, 2025 12:47 am

I'd say why would the Hawks do that but yeah we live in stupid times

(realistically the only teams who would be vying for PG are those attempting to keep their closing windows open like GS as those teams are probably close to blowing it up anyway so who cares about the cap space....don't think thats the Hawks; as with the Jalen Johnson injury they probably should stand pat and either tank or just wait it out)
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Post#163 » by Embiid P » Tue Feb 4, 2025 12:48 am

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Sixersftw wrote:This Luka trade has GMs out here just shooting shots. I'd love to get PG off the team.


Morey has to know this isn't working and never will. He has a chance here to reset this whole damn thing by moving George and essentially admitting that it was a mistake - screw the optics at this point.

Get the best package the Warriors will send back, and for the love of God let's move on from this nightmare.

The only thing that could top that would be moving Embiid at the deadline as well.


Embiid can't be moved until the offseason because of his extension.
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Post#164 » by Iscull » Tue Feb 4, 2025 1:01 am

Mik317 wrote:I'd say why would the Hawks do that but yeah we live in stupid times

(realistically the only teams who would be vying for PG are those attempting to keep their closing windows open like GS as those teams are probably close to blowing it up anyway so who cares about the cap space....don't think thats the Hawks; as with the Jalen Johnson injury they probably should stand pat and either tank or just wait it out)


I think it's partially tank / partially compete for next year.

Hunter becomes PG, who could be shut down for the rest of the year to help a tank. PG is a theoretical upgrade next year.

Capela has an expiring contract and they likely move on.

Dyson is a sweenter in swapping Hunter for PG.
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Post#165 » by mjkvol » Tue Feb 4, 2025 1:05 am

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Sixersftw wrote:This Luka trade has GMs out here just shooting shots. I'd love to get PG off the team.


Morey has to know this isn't working and never will. He has a chance here to reset this whole damn thing by moving George and essentially admitting that it was a mistake - screw the optics at this point.

Get the best package the Warriors will send back, and for the love of God let's move on from this nightmare.

The only thing that could top that would be moving Embiid at the deadline as well.

I hope he is still both shrewd and realistic enough to recognize that. Its time to hit a full reset with Maxey and McCain as the focal point.

Obviously, if Jo gets his health figured out, that's great but I'm not holding my breath. I can't think rationally about moving Embiid. He's maybe the first Sixer I have been attached to, in my lifetime, beyond just a reasonable valuation as a player/piece of the organization. I recognize that so I'm not gonna even try to go into it.


Yeah, I just threw that in there about trading Joel, but he can't be traded until the summer anyway. The best case scenario might be this season acting as a wake-up call for him to reevaluate his career path moving forward, to think of the franchise first and reinvent himself as we have all hoped in a Duncan-esque manner, doing whatever he needs to do to get that elusive ring.

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Post#166 » by Arsenal » Tue Feb 4, 2025 1:12 am

Starting this deadline moves should be made to complement Tyrese Maxey and to a lesser extent Jared McCain.

Maxey has made the leap to a #1 option and appears to be on a Damian Lillard trajectory.

McCain showed major flashes of Brunson upside and is only 20.

Meanwhile Jo has missed 2/3 of the season and can’t be relied upon.

Therefore Jo’s “window” is now irrelevant. All moves should be based on our future.
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Post#167 » by Foshan » Tue Feb 4, 2025 1:54 am

Okay, so this is a little fantasy trade ish... but hey its the deadline...

Trade 1: Drummond to LAL for C.Wood/C.Reddish/2nd
- Philly waves Wood, gets a 2nd
- LAL gets a cheap center

Trade 2: Oubre to DEN for Saric/Holmes
- Philly sells high on Oubre to a contender, Holmes looked good before a bad injury
- Den adds athleticism on the wing

Trade 3: PG & RJ to ATL for Capella/Hunter/Dyson
- ATL tries to save their season with a star

Maxey/Lowery/McCain
Dyson/Gordon/
Hunter/Edwards/Reddish
Martin/Council/Saric/KJ
Embiid/Yabuselle/Capella/Holmes

This is of course too much for a real trade deadline, but I think it would free up money for us to keep Yabuselle around, while adding Dyson/Holmes for the future. I also like being loaded with athletic wings, a lot of those guys could run 2-4 for some fast line ups when Embiid is out.
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Post#168 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:01 am

Please get George outta here
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Post#169 » by Iverson Armband » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:17 am

If they are sellers this deadline, then Embiid needs to be traded this summer as well.
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Post#170 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:18 am

The league was lucky that the Spurs just ended up with Fox and not with Doncic.
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Post#171 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:32 am

Arsenal wrote:Starting this deadline moves should be made to complement Tyrese Maxey and to a lesser extent Jared McCain.

Maxey has made the leap to a #1 option and appears to be on a Damian Lillard trajectory.

McCain showed major flashes of Brunson upside and is only 20.

Meanwhile Jo has missed 2/3 of the season and can’t be relied upon.

Therefore Jo’s “window” is now irrelevant. All moves should be based on our future.


Based on the franchise players Morey has built around in his career, I don’t think he views Maxey and McCain as truly untouchable. Embiid is clearly higher on that list, and if McCain were healthy, he might even be the piece Morey dangles for a much-needed upgrade. And if a superstar like Giannis or Steph became available and the price was Maxey, I believe Morey would seriously entertain that deal.

This team seems to be on track for an easy path to the 6th-8th seed, especially with teams like the Hawks, Bulls, and Miami likely to fall off after the deadline as tanking season approaches. While it seems like we’re gonna get Embiid and George soon.

And with how well we’ve played recently without Embiid and George, plus the glimpses of our potential when fully healthy—like in the game against the Celtics—I don’t see us deciding to punt this season.
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Post#172 » by mjkvol » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:38 am

76ciology wrote:Based on the franchise players Morey has built around in his career, I don’t think he views Maxey and McCain as truly untouchable. Embiid is clearly higher on that list, and if McCain were healthy, he might even be the piece Morey dangles for a much-needed upgrade. And if a superstar like Giannis or Steph became available and the price was Maxey, I believe Morey would seriously entertain that deal.

This team seems to be on track for an easy path to the 6th-8th seed, especially with teams like the Hawks, Bulls, and Miami likely to fall off after the deadline as tanking season approaches. While it seems like we’re gonna get Embiid and George soon.

And with how well we’ve played recently without Embiid and George, plus the glimpses of our potential when fully healthy—like in the game against the Celtics—I don’t see us deciding to punt this season.


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Post#173 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:44 am

The Luka trade has made me question an existing belief I have about evaluating players—how different sports have unique ranking systems based on how they value certain skills. For example, high school basketball feels like a different sport from college basketball, and college basketball is different from the NBA. And the NBA regular season and the NBA playoffs are essentially two different sports.

In the playoffs, durability and endurance should be valued more, while things like drawing fouls become less impactful. We see this with Embiid—he’s one of the most dominant regular-season players, but in the playoffs, his value drops significantly. With Doncic, it’s harder to judge. He’s led his team to the WCF and the Finals, but maybe that series exposed some flaws. Perhaps Dallas sees his conditioning and physique as long-term concerns and decided to sell high before his value declines further.
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Post#174 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:55 am

mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:Based on the franchise players Morey has built around in his career, I don’t think he views Maxey and McCain as truly untouchable. Embiid is clearly higher on that list, and if McCain were healthy, he might even be the piece Morey dangles for a much-needed upgrade. And if a superstar like Giannis or Steph became available and the price was Maxey, I believe Morey would seriously entertain that deal.

This team seems to be on track for an easy path to the 6th-8th seed, especially with teams like the Hawks, Bulls, and Miami likely to fall off after the deadline as tanking season approaches. While it seems like we’re gonna get Embiid and George soon.

And with how well we’ve played recently without Embiid and George, plus the glimpses of our potential when fully healthy—like in the game against the Celtics—I don’t see us deciding to punt this season.


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Post#175 » by Sixersftw » Tue Feb 4, 2025 2:59 am

76ciology wrote:The Luka trade has made me question an existing belief I have about evaluating players—how different sports have unique ranking systems based on how they value certain skills. For example, high school basketball feels like a different sport from college basketball, and college basketball is different from the NBA. And the NBA regular season and the NBA playoffs are essentially two different sports.

In the playoffs, durability and endurance should be valued more, while things like drawing fouls become less impactful. We see this with Embiid—he’s one of the most dominant regular-season players, but in the playoffs, his value drops significantly. With Doncic, it’s harder to judge. He’s led his team to the WCF and the Finals, but maybe that series exposed some flaws. Perhaps Dallas sees his conditioning and physique as long-term concerns and decided to sell high before his value declines further.


I think you're looking for a lesson that really isn't exemplified by Dallas' evaluation, actions, or execution. I'm not here to say that your conclusion on what is more valuable during a regular season vs a playoff run is wrong. It may be, IDK. And it may be the driving factor for Dallas' decision, again, I don't know. However, I can't look at them as a rational actor because you can't come to the observation that Luka's conditioning and physique are long term detriments and then in the same breath say that an oft injured, aging, big man is a more sound solution to abating those concerns. That logic just doesn't make sense.
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Post#176 » by 76ciology » Tue Feb 4, 2025 3:25 am

Sixersftw wrote:
76ciology wrote:The Luka trade has made me question an existing belief I have about evaluating players—how different sports have unique ranking systems based on how they value certain skills. For example, high school basketball feels like a different sport from college basketball, and college basketball is different from the NBA. And the NBA regular season and the NBA playoffs are essentially two different sports.

In the playoffs, durability and endurance should be valued more, while things like drawing fouls become less impactful. We see this with Embiid—he’s one of the most dominant regular-season players, but in the playoffs, his value drops significantly. With Doncic, it’s harder to judge. He’s led his team to the WCF and the Finals, but maybe that series exposed some flaws. Perhaps Dallas sees his conditioning and physique as long-term concerns and decided to sell high before his value declines further.


I think you're looking for a lesson that really isn't exemplified by Dallas' evaluation, actions, or execution. I'm not here to say that your conclusion on what is more valuable during a regular season vs a playoff run is wrong. It may be, IDK. And it may be the driving factor for Dallas' decision, again, I don't know. However, I can't look at them as a rational actor because you can't come to the observation that Luka's conditioning and physique are long term detriments and then in the same breath say that an oft injured, aging, big man is a more sound solution to abating those concerns. That logic just doesn't make sense.


I’m just trying to find an angle—based on some reports—on why the Mavs made this trade, because it’s still mind-blowing. My theory is that Doncic, like prime Harden in Houston, needs to control the offense all game. The problem is, that style doesn’t hold up in the Finals—he’ll eventually run out of gas. No matter how much talent you put around him, even an All-Star team, he’d still want to run the offense, slack off on defense, and then fade by the third or fourth round.

With AD, the approach is different. He doesn’t need to dominate the ball. You just pair him with another big to share the defensive load, catch lobs, attack mismatches, and hit mid-range jumpers. That kind of game is more sustainable deep into the playoffs, and he’ll still have energy left for the Finals.

But yeah, the biggest question is—if the Mavs wanted a star big who can be reliable in the playoffs, why AD? And why just ask for a first round pick to attach to AD? At the very least, ask for Austin Reeves.
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Post#177 » by mjkvol » Tue Feb 4, 2025 3:36 am

76ciology wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:Based on the franchise players Morey has built around in his career, I don’t think he views Maxey and McCain as truly untouchable. Embiid is clearly higher on that list, and if McCain were healthy, he might even be the piece Morey dangles for a much-needed upgrade. And if a superstar like Giannis or Steph became available and the price was Maxey, I believe Morey would seriously entertain that deal.

This team seems to be on track for an easy path to the 6th-8th seed, especially with teams like the Hawks, Bulls, and Miami likely to fall off after the deadline as tanking season approaches. While it seems like we’re gonna get Embiid and George soon.

And with how well we’ve played recently without Embiid and George, plus the glimpses of our potential when fully healthy—like in the game against the Celtics—I don’t see us deciding to punt this season.


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Post#178 » by the_process » Tue Feb 4, 2025 3:49 am

Foshan wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Philly's Best wrote:Would much rather deal with G.S direct and get back Wiggins / Kuminga and add ins


I think I'd rather take a lot on Moody and/or Podz instead of Kuminga due to the shooting factor. Moody is locked into a decent long-term deal and Kuminga could get massively overpaid this summer.

I think this is the only reason Kuminga would be available in a PG trade this year is them not wanting to overpay him and Wiggins next year.
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Post#179 » by JordanMars » Tue Feb 4, 2025 3:57 am

call me crazy but i could see morey trying to get durant
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Post#180 » by the_process » Tue Feb 4, 2025 4:19 am

JordanMars wrote:call me crazy but i could see morey trying to get durant


He has definitely made the call. Probably multiple times, as that seems to be the rep for his style.

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