Tom Moore 2.0

[Sixerscan]

Uh no. Early in the season, we were at Atlanta. We dominated the First Quarter against them. But we eventually ended up losing.

Okay, I checked. 34-18=16 PT lead.

It was a part of that early part of the season where our offense struggled with Brand.

Why are you trying to change the argument? You said "Because we destroyed that team in every single game we played?". I said this was wrong, we lost to them once. I clearly wasn't talking about the huge lead part, I knew that was true because I actually looked up whether or not we actually beat Atlanta every time. Just accept that you were wrong and move on. Is it really that hard to just say "Whoops, my bad!" instead of trying to explain it away?

Pinckney was on the Nova championship team, then played in the NBA for about a decade. He was an assistant at Nova for a while before getting an assistant in Minny. Guess Rambis didn't want him back.

[Don]

US>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ATL.

we destroyed that team in every single game we played

But we eventually ended up losing.

Dude, you are the Good Humor Man today.

The Heat only have what, 3-4 players in their 12 man rotation?

What are you saying? They have 3-4 players in their entire rotation? LOL. Do you mean they only have 3-4 good players? But they have one of the top 5 players in the LEAGUE leading them, and it wasn't long ago that they won the whole damn thing. Miami is as good as last year's Sixers.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

I think there might be a bit of confusion. I admitted to the fact that we blew that game. I lamented it, still lament it.

US>>>ATL. We have a bigger front-court, better bench. Much more consistent team. It should've been a sweep.

[Don]

Oh, and Cleveland is much better than the Sixers. They are not average or just above average, they are a very good team with arguably the best player in the league leading them. You wanted to be a better poster, try starting with being realistic for a change. Perhaps there should be a fantasy reality thread for these kinds of posts.

[tk76]

Last year we matched up well against Atl, and it led to success head to head. Maybe the Sixers could have beaten Atl in a 7 game series, but that is not the point.

Atl had a much better record and have upgraded their roster. Its not a question of head to head results. It is a question of who will win more games over the 82 game season. By that measure it is safe to say that Atl is and will be the better team.

[tmoore]

I agree that the Hawks have to be picked ahead of the Sixers, at this point.

Link to blog on Pinckney getting Comcast analyst job:

http://www.phillyburbs.com/opinions/blo ... alyst.html

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

How do you possibly add chuckers to your basketball team and say they're better? The only reason I wanted Jamal Crawford on the Sixers, is because it could work with Iggy as a Point Forward.

In Atlanta, that's trouble waiting to brew.

[Sixerscan]

Because they won 6 more games than the Sixers last year, the Sixers lost Andre Miller and no one knows if Brand will ever come back to what he was.

Crawford is replacing Ronald Murray, who is basically a less talented version of Jamal Crawford.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Sixerscan: Don't be absurd, your not another poster who thinks Brand was "explosive". Brand was an excellent rebounder/defensive stud last year and when we actually got him the ball in 1-on-1 isolation spots where he thrived, we saw him score.

He falls down on the freaking floor hard on his shoulder, what can you expect?

Crawford's talent doesn't mitgate the fact that he's a loser, on losing teams. Sometimes you gotta understand this. It's not about talent, it's about how it fits. Crawford is a terrible player.

Don Nelson, a guard lover said he wouldn't play Crawford. Nuff said.

[83SixersRocked]

Actually its the isolation plays where the 6ers faltered. They threw him the ball and stood around, and Brand was double and triple teamed. His forte is working off the pick and roll, not isolation (which is why I wanted Bibby). I half think Miller set him up to fail.

[Sixerscan]

Elton Brand hasn't played a full season in two years. Really can't expect anything.

Crawford is better than Flip Murray. Flip Murray is one of the biggest chuckers ever

[Sixerscan]

Forgot the Hawks also added Joe Smith. He should give them some good depth up front.

It's really amazing the Hawks won as many games as they did considering how horrible their bench was. Crawford and Smith along with Mo Evans, Pachulia, and Jeff Teague should actually be a decent bench. They're deeper than our bench is, for example.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Forgot the Hawks also added Joe Smith. He should give them some good depth up front.

It's really amazing the Hawks won as many games as they did considering how horrible their bench was. Crawford and Smith along with Mo Evans, Pachulia, and Jeff Teague should actually be a decent bench. They're deeper than our bench is, for example.

What depth up front? When Mike Woodson was asking for a big, he wasn't asking for another jump shooter. He wanted a big man in the POST. They have ZERO post offense, something you seem to underlook.

Mo Evans and Pachuilla are two mediocre players who were a part of that horrible bench last year.

Teague is interesting, played like a top-5 talent early in the year. Slumped off the face of the earth, what can we expect from him?

Stop trying to over-rate a pretty mediocre team.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Elton Brand hasn't played a full season in two years. Really can't expect anything.

Crawford is better than Flip Murray. Flip Murray is one of the biggest chuckers ever

And the circumstances made it difficult for that to be accomplished. Let me refer you to the Houston Game. Elton Brand's trying to come back from the injury. He posts 14, 6, 6(That's SIX BLOCKS).

He and Dalembert destroyed Yao Ming that night. We haven't had a big of Brand's caliber since Moses Malone.

If I didn't know who you were talking about, I'd think you're talking about A.I. Good god, Brand is NOT "injury prone".

[Sixerscan]

I'm not overrating them. I'm say the Hawks, who won 46 games and a playoff series last year, are better than a team that won 40 games last year.

Evans and Pachulia are their 8th and 9th best players now. Who would our equivalent be? Ivey and Smith? I'd take Evans and Pachulia over them easily.

Brand hasn't played professional basketball in two years basically. That's a really really long time. If you don't see the questions that arises I don't really know what to tell you

[Sixerscan]

Oh and I could really care less what happened one random game. Dana Barros scored 50 points once.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Sixerscan: Circumstances surrounding that too, we lost a player that was averaging 20/5 AKA Thaddeus Young. I think if we don't lose Young, we win 42-43 games at a miniumn.

So a 2-3 game difference? Which goes back to our early season struggles?

Smith is better then Pachuilla, he actually provides size and defense up front. I remember Smith very well from the 07 season, he deserved to be a starter over Evans.

Certainly, Evans can provide a spark off the bench. But Ivey can provide defense. Depends on what your team needs are.

You're over-rating the Hawks. They beat up on the weaklings of the conference. We have a better roster on both ends. Early season struggles made it difficult. But we made that late surge and we were within a game of them.

[Don]

DSF, you are never going to accept it, but the facts are reality, as sixerscan said, they won six more games over the season, and they won a playoff series, and they added some more pieces. Our team did not win any playoff series, lost a key player, and have the most important player coming off injury. Those are the facts. You can argue till you're blue to "what if" the situation, but until Elton Brand and our Lou Williams led team can prove that they're better, the Sixers simply are not better than Atlanta. Simply making blanket statements that are not based on facts and merely your subjective criticism of individuals on the team that had the better record is simply nonconvincing. As you can see, most, including a sportswriter agrees that as of this moment, based on what we have seen on the hardcourt until now, Atlanta is better. That doesn't mean that it's not possible that we can't become better this upcoming season, but based on what we've seen so far, Atlanta is currently better.

[radrmd216]

I think the Hawks will be better than the Sixers this year. The Sixers will proabbly struggle early on so Atlanta will most likely finish with a better record. I like the Sixers future better than the Hawks, but i think will be better this season.

Brand never an athletic freak, but achilles tears are pretty devistating injuries. I think evidence shows players aren't the same after achilles tears. Brand could still play well, but he will not be the same player he once was, especially considering the the numbers people reference are the numbers Brand put up pre-injury and in his physical prime. Obviously Brand at 30 isn't as good from a physical standpoint as Brand at 27 and an achilles futher declines his physical abilities.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

C: Al Horford C: Samuel Dalembert
PF:Josh Smith PF:Elton Brand
SF:Marvin Williams SF:Thaddeus Young
SG:Joe Johnson SG: Andre Iguodala
PG:Mike Bibby PG: Lou Williams

Okay, where do you see us getting beat so badly?

The C position? Al Horford has exploded somewhat and it'd be nice to see if becomes a legit post player. That's what the Hawks really need, rather then Jamal "I'm a loser" Crawford. But Horford is no Howard, and Daly is a pretty good center when focused.

Because I know you hate your own team more then anything, I'll "give" this to Atlanta. But it isn't a difference that'll win games.

Elton Brand just OWNS Josh Smith. As athletic as Smith is, he doesn't have a half-court game to speak of. And Brand happens to be one of the better post defenders in the league. Offensively, since Smith isn't going to be coming over for weak-side blocks any time soon, he isn't stopping Brand.

Brand>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Smith

Marvin Williams needs to finally break out. Granted, he's solid in that like Young he doesn't need the ball to succeed. But how good of a defensive player is he? Because Thad Young's one of the better young forwards in the league. and a versatile gifted scorer. Since Young has done more then Marvin in terms of development. I'm going Young here.

Johnson and Iggy are two similar type of ballers. Both can make plays for their team-mates and both are guys that can carry a team offensively. Both are relatively good defenders, though Iguodala is a better one. But in exchange, Johnson has the 3 ball and that kind of makes him a bit better.

Mike Bibby has adapted at losing his explosiveness to becoming a Steve Blake-ish PG that shoots the 3 and takes care of the ball. Meanwhile, I have trust and faith in Lou Williams. This is a kid that is really acting like an additional 2 guard to the offense. All he has to do is initiate the pass, after that. He's free to do some things offensively. He'll pick apart Mike Bibby, whose bad at defense. And since Bibby isn't exactly a go-to-guy or anything like that, Lou's defense isn't a concern here.

Lou>>Bibby

So maybe the C and SG positions at best? But that's analyzing them 1-on-1. Analyzing them from a team basis, shows a team that lacks a low post option and requires perimeter offense. Iggy/Young are two guys that can shut down the wings defensively and Brand/Daly back them up.

Face it, we're better PERIOD.

We're better suited to taking them on, that's why we blew them out 3 times outta 4.