Official Andre Iguodala Trade Discussion and Rumors Thread

Post #1621 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:02 am

phillybird wrote:Someone in here said he has the 30th highest salary in the NBA. I think he's around the 30th best player in the league. Or am I wrong?

He's certainly among the 30 best players not on a rookie deal.

He's fairly paid.

76ciology · Post #1622 » by **76ciology** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:04 am

Sixerlover wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Sixerlover wrote:I don't think you understood my question.

my bad.

I don't know whats the point of asking how many players in the Mavs roster is better than Iggy. At the SF position, Butler and Marion should be equal or better to Iggy. Mavs are better off with Butler and Marion since their team would need scorer rather than facilitator at the SF position with Kidd being a genius at facilitating their offense. Butler and Marion should, arguably, isn't that far off from Iggy.

What I do know is that he'd probably be the 4th to 5th option on offense, behind Dirk, Terry, Kidd and probably Marion who seems to be a better scorer than Iguodala.

Nice so Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion are better offensive options than Iguodala. I gotcha.

Kidd and Marion are better scorers. Iggy can't even cracked 14ppg as our no.1 option this season. Iggy is a better athlete than both Kidd and Marion. But he's not a better scorer than both.

sixerswillrule · Post #1623 » by **sixerswillrule** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:06 am

Post #1624 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:10 am

He wasn't the number 1 shooting option

He took the 5th most FGAs
He took the 3rd most FGA per Game
He took the 7th most FGs per minute
He had the sixth highest usage rate

I think you are confusing "number 1 option" with "best player."

Kobblehead · Post #1625 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:15 am

Sixerscan wrote:He wasn't the number 1 shooting option

He took the 5th most FGAs
He took the 3rd most FGA per Game
He took the 7th most FGs per minute
He had the sixth highest usage rate

I think you are confusing "number 1 option" with "best player."

We get it, you'll defend Andre at all costs. Who was the Sixers #1 option then? SMH

76ciology · Post #1626 » by **76ciology** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:17 am

Sixerscan wrote:He wasn't the number 1 shooting option

He took the 5th most FGAs
He took the 3rd most FGA per Game
He took the 7th most FGs per minute
He had the sixth highest usage rate

I think you are confusing "number 1 option" with "best player."

Still, Kidd and Marion are better options on offense. One is a better shooter and one is a better slasher. Both have better scoring mentality/tools.

sixerswillrule · Post #1627 » by **sixerswillrule** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:21 am

Kidd is a 38 year old spot-up shooter who scored 8 points per game while shooting horribly this season. You're making yourself look foolish.

Marion is close but at this point in his career he's not as good of a scorer as Iguodala.

Post #1628 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:25 am

Kobblehead wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:He wasn't the number 1 shooting option

He took the 5th most FGAs
He took the 3rd most FGA per Game
He took the 7th most FGs per minute
He had the sixth highest usage rate

I think you are confusing "number 1 option" with "best player."

We get it, you'll defend Andre at all costs. Who was the Sixers #1 option then? SMH

There was a clear dearth of number one options, transient players, ball stabilizers, and red dragons on the Philadelphia 76ers this year.

Maybe it was that Brand guy that averaged the most shots per game on the team.

Sixerlover · Post #1629 » by **Sixerlover** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:26 am

Kobblehead wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:He wasn't the number 1 shooting option

He took the 5th most FGAs
He took the 3rd most FGA per Game
He took the 7th most FGs per minute
He had the sixth highest usage rate

I think you are confusing "number 1 option" with "best player."

We get it, you'll defend Andre at all costs. Who was the Sixers #1 option then? SMH

Elton Brand. The guy getting paid like a #1 option.

76ciology · Post #1630 » by **76ciology** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:28 am

sixerswillrule wrote:Kidd is a 38 year old spot-up shooter who scored 8 points per game while shooting horribly this season. You're making yourself look foolish.

Marion is close but at this point in his career he's not as good of a scorer as Iguodala.

Ok, if you think Kidd is not a better scorer than Iguodala. Still, Iggy should be a 4th to 5th option on the Mavs.

Dirk, Terry, Butler, and Marion. All these four guys are better scorers/options than Iguodala.

Kobblehead · Post #1631 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:30 am

PhillyFan · Post #1632 » by **PhillyFan** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:34 am

The clear sign you don't know a thing about basketball:

When you judge the worth of a player base on his scoring ability and nothing else.

Sixerlover · Post #1633 » by **Sixerlover** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:36 am

Kobblehead wrote::lol:

Had to give the big guy some accountability. Iguodala gets the bulk of the "bad contract" talk like he's making Elton Brand money or something.

Post #1634 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:37 am

76ciology wrote:
sixerswillrule wrote:Kidd is a 38 year old spot-up shooter who scored 8 points per game while shooting horribly this season. You're making yourself look foolish.

Marion is close but at this point in his career he's not as good of a scorer as Iguodala.

Ok, if you think Kidd is not a better scorer than Iguodala. Still, Iggy should be a 4th to 5th option on the Mavs.

Dirk, Terry, Butler, and Marion. All these four guys are better scorers/options than Iguodala.

So let's get back the origional question...

How many players on Dallas would be better than Iguodala if he dropped onto their team today?

I find the relationship between only caring about scoring and trashing Iguodala to be fascinating. No matter what, the thought always goes back to scoring. Accept him for who he is, not who you think he should be. It's a lot more fun that way.

Kobblehead · Post #1635 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:42 am

The person asking the question was an Iguodala supporter. LOL

PhillyFan · Post #1636 » by **PhillyFan** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:43 am

If anything, I wouldn't mind trading Evan Turner for OJ Mayo.

Post #1637 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:46 am

Kobblehead wrote:The person asking the question was an Iguodala supporter. LOL

Yea, I was talking about the people that turned it into being purely about scoring (I.E. You)

"Iguodala supporter"--- ooh more terms for the glossary.

Sixerlover · Post #1638 » by **Sixerlover** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:48 am

Kobblehead wrote:The person asking the question was an Iguodala supporter. LOL

Yes, I did ask the question. Still doesn't change the fact not 1 person has answered it yet.

Kobblehead · Post #1639 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:49 am

Sixerscan wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:The person asking the question was an Iguodala supporter. LOL

Yea, I was talking about the people that turned it into being purely about scoring (I.E. You)

"Iguodala supporter"--- ooh more terms for the glossary.

Uggggh no. Go back and read, kid. I jumped into the conversation like 8 posts in. It was clearly 76ology who was talking about scoring.

76ciology · Post #1640 » by **76ciology** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:57 am

Anyway, to answer the mystery..

Iguodala should probably be the 4th or 5th best player in the Mavs. Behind Dirk (no doubt), Kidd (still one of the best PG), Butler (better scorer and good defensive player) and Marion (better scorer, rebounder and good defensive player). If I'm the Mavs, I would value Iggy the same with Terry and Chandler.

Iggy should probably, play off the bench next to either Marion or Caron Butler.

Just my opinion.