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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1621 » by Ericb5 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:46 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:I'd rather cut Okafor than trade him for a 2nd. I know that's a cut your nose off to spite your face kinda thing, but I'm sorry... the annoyance level that would come with only getting a 2nd rounder back for him is not worth dealing with for only a 2nd. I'd honestly rather just cut him, and I'd actually feel good that after being a champ through all this, he'd get to pick his own team to sign with.


I'd rather just keep him if that is all that we could get. There would ONLY be upside to keeping him if we could only get a second rounder.




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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1622 » by LongLiveHinkie » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:55 pm

Well, in that instance, they have to calculate if him being here past the deadline will hurt the locker room and hurt our team chemistry with him pouting. Will he be vocal if he doesn't get traded? How long will be play the good soldier?
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1623 » by phillychuck » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:56 pm

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LongLiveHinkie wrote:I'd rather cut Okafor than trade him for a 2nd. I know that's a cut your nose off to spite your face kinda thing, but I'm sorry... the annoyance level that would come with only getting a 2nd rounder back for him is not worth dealing with for only a 2nd. I'd honestly rather just cut him, and I'd actually feel good that after being a champ through all this, he'd get to pick his own team to sign with.


I'd rather just keep him if that is all that we could get. There would ONLY be upside to keeping him if we could only get a second rounder.


This. Players do improve as they age through their early 20s. You might get lucky or get better offers later.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1624 » by LongLiveHinkie » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:58 pm

There's one thing I'm 100% certain of... he can't be here at the start of next season. He just can't. It will be too negative for the team, Okafor won't have any parts of it. They can try to trade him after the season is over, but I don't see his value increasing at this point. He doesn't play, and when he does, they typically lose.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1625 » by Agnostifarian » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:01 am

I think Okafor ought to go play in D-League so he can get heavy minutes. Unless it's Tank time... If so, he can just play for the 76ers. He can lead us back to the top of the lottery. Who says he has no value?
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Post#1626 » by Arsenal » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:24 am

Yeah, if all we can get is a 2nd, then forget it. He has far more value to us as a tank commander and there's always the chance we could get a better offer in the offseason. If not, you can always dump him for a 2nd rounder then, and even if you can't it's not like you missed out on anything.
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Post#1627 » by TTP » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:32 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:John Gonzalez was on CSN and he kinda intimated that the rumored offers out there may not be as good as what's really out there for Okafor and from talking to sources the best they may be able to get is only a late 1st round pick. Dei Lynam thinks they may be able to only get a 2nd rounder for him.


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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1628 » by TTP » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:35 am

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LongLiveHinkie wrote:I'd rather cut Okafor than trade him for a 2nd. I know that's a cut your nose off to spite your face kinda thing, but I'm sorry... the annoyance level that would come with only getting a 2nd rounder back for him is not worth dealing with for only a 2nd. I'd honestly rather just cut him, and I'd actually feel good that after being a champ through all this, he'd get to pick his own team to sign with.


I'd rather just keep him if that is all that we could get. There would ONLY be upside to keeping him if we could only get a second rounder.




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I don't agree with this. I'd rather have a second round pick than declining his 4th year option and letting him go. People have been overvaluing him for ages and consistently saying to hold him for his upside, taking for granted that his value will improve in the future despite the fact that it has consistently declined.
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Post#1629 » by Arsenal » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:37 am

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LongLiveHinkie wrote:I'd rather cut Okafor than trade him for a 2nd. I know that's a cut your nose off to spite your face kinda thing, but I'm sorry... the annoyance level that would come with only getting a 2nd rounder back for him is not worth dealing with for only a 2nd. I'd honestly rather just cut him, and I'd actually feel good that after being a champ through all this, he'd get to pick his own team to sign with.


I'd rather just keep him if that is all that we could get. There would ONLY be upside to keeping him if we could only get a second rounder.




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I don't agree with this. I'd rather have a second round pick than declining his 4th year option and letting him go. People have been overvaluing him for ages and consistently saying to hold him for his upside, taking it for granted that it will improve in the future despite the fact that it has consistently declined.


A 2nd round pick is virtually worthless. Better to hold on and see if a better offer materializes in the offseason. At that point there's much more upside than downside to waiting.
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Post#1630 » by TTP » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:38 am

Agnostifarian wrote:I think Okafor ought to go play in D-League so he can get heavy minutes. Unless it's Tank time... If so, he can just play for the 76ers. He can lead us back to the top of the lottery. Who says he has no value?


I've wondered why they haven't sent him to Delaware yet. He definitely needs it, and we need to give his minutes to Richaun. The main concern is that if he continues to play poorly in Delaware, his value will be completely gone.
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Post#1631 » by LloydFree » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:40 am

TTP wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:John Gonzalez was on CSN and he kinda intimated that the rumored offers out there may not be as good as what's really out there for Okafor and from talking to sources the best they may be able to get is only a late 1st round pick. Dei Lynam thinks they may be able to only get a 2nd rounder for him.


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Exactly. I don't know why this is some kind of breaking news. That's all Utah got for Enes Kanter, and he was/is a better player than Okafor.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1632 » by TTP » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:40 am

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TTP wrote:
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I'd rather just keep him if that is all that we could get. There would ONLY be upside to keeping him if we could only get a second rounder.




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I don't agree with this. I'd rather have a second round pick than declining his 4th year option and letting him go. People have been overvaluing him for ages and consistently saying to hold him for his upside, taking it for granted that it will improve in the future despite the fact that it has consistently declined.


A 2nd round pick is virtually worthless. Better to hold on and see if a better offer materializes in the offseason. At that point there's much more upside than downside to waiting.


I'd rather not waste 6.3 million on him in two seasons and we have to make that decision at the start of next season.
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Post#1633 » by NJ SixerFan » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:41 am

I think the way that BC has handled the Jah situation has been terrible. This situation is pretty simple though. BC either gets the return he believes is the right value for Jah or not. Its then up to Brett to just play the better players and forget this whole he was drafted 3rd overall nonsense. He is on his rookie deal so its not like he hamstrings the cap at all. He either gets better and improves to the point where he earns minutes or he doesn't and moves on at a later date or end of his deal with the sixers.
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Post#1634 » by Arsenal » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:45 am

TTP wrote:
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I don't agree with this. I'd rather have a second round pick than declining his 4th year option and letting him go. People have been overvaluing him for ages and consistently saying to hold him for his upside, taking it for granted that it will improve in the future despite the fact that it has consistently declined.


A 2nd round pick is virtually worthless. Better to hold on and see if a better offer materializes in the offseason. At that point there's much more upside than downside to waiting.


I'd rather not waste 6.3 million on him in two seasons and we have to make that decision at the start of next season.


He'll be gone before we have to make that decision. Any team that trades for him will obviously pick up the option.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1635 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:55 am

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LongLiveHinkie wrote:John Gonzalez was on CSN and he kinda intimated that the rumored offers out there may not be as good as what's really out there for Okafor and from talking to sources the best they may be able to get is only a late 1st round pick. Dei Lynam thinks they may be able to only get a 2nd rounder for him.


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Exactly. I don't know why this is some kind of breaking news. That's all Utah got for Enes Kanter, and he was/is a better player than Okafor.


It's not breaking news. Never declared it as such. This entire thread hasn't had one ounce of breaking news in it, as a matter of fact since nothing has ever happened.
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Post#1636 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:04 am

I'm fine with keeping him and trading him in the offseason but why the dog and pony show?

Not only was embarrassing to the Sixers but also Okafor. However, at least it allows us to focus on the players who need to be moved before the deadline: Ersan, Sergio, and Henderson. It also gives us the last week to figure out what to do with Noel.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1637 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:06 am

TTP wrote:
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TTP wrote:
I don't agree with this. I'd rather have a second round pick than declining his 4th year option and letting him go. People have been overvaluing him for ages and consistently saying to hold him for his upside, taking it for granted that it will improve in the future despite the fact that it has consistently declined.


A 2nd round pick is virtually worthless. Better to hold on and see if a better offer materializes in the offseason. At that point there's much more upside than downside to waiting.


I'd rather not waste 6.3 million on him in two seasons and we have to make that decision at the start of next season.


Lol really? 6.3 million in two seasons.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1638 » by SouthJersey » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:13 am

A 2nd rounder? Well Mason Plumlee just fetched a first rounder, so this is awful news. That said, I get it. Okafor seems lost on the court.
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Post#1639 » by LloydFree » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:28 am

SouthJersey wrote:A 2nd rounder? Well Mason Plumlee just fetched a first rounder, so this is awful news. That said, I get it. Okafor seems lost on the court.

Mason Plumlee, while not being a good defender, at least offers good passing and is a much better rebounder. Okafor doesn't offer as many positives as Plumlee at this point.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1640 » by marcush » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:40 am

If it's only a 2nd rounder you still do it.....addition by subtraction. Okafors minutes get distributed to Noel and Holmes which is a win for the team and for their development.

Move on. Sunk cost.... yada, yada.

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