Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho

mjkvol · Post #1621 » by **mjkvol** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:41 pm

SGA (if attainable)
Ingram

Fox
Murray

Beal

I want no part of Beal. Older, and clearly wants to be elsewhere. Same with Lillard, plus that awful contract.

PhillyFan11 · Post #1622 » by **PhillyFan11** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:56 pm

Some of you are in real denial about any kind of Tobi trade. The guy has negative value, we should be jumping for joy if any team would take him at.

mjkvol · Post #1623 » by **mjkvol** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:27 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:Some of you are in real denial about any kind of Tobi trade. The guy has negative value, we should be jumping for joy if any team would take him at.

I might check the Tobias trade thread. I wouldn't call this group one that is in the slightest bit of denial about trading Tobi, the problem is what team in their right mind would actually trade for him?

spikeslovechild · Post #1624 » by **spikeslovechild** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:38 pm

mjkvol wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:Some of you are in real denial about any kind of Tobi trade. The guy has negative value, we should be jumping for joy if any team would take him at.

I might check the Tobias trade thread. I wouldn't call this group one that is in the slightest bit of denial about trading Tobi, the problem is what team in their right mind would actually trade for him?

If the plan was to trade Tobi we should have done so in the offseason when he actually had value. Many here are being irrational now that he is playing poorly.

mjkvol · Post #1625 » by **mjkvol** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:07 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:Some of you are in real denial about any kind of Tobi trade. The guy has negative value, we should be jumping for joy if any team would take him at.

I might check the Tobias trade thread. I wouldn't call this group one that is in the slightest bit of denial about trading Tobi, the problem is what team in their right mind would actually trade for him?

If the plan was to trade Tobi we should have done so in the offseason when he actually had value. Many here are being irrational now that he is playing poorly.

No argument that he should have been traded already, but who was taking that contract with three years left on it?

I'm not sure what you're talking about that is being irrational - this group has been pretty consistent in our view on Tobi.

It's the media that is irrational, continually referring to him as some sort of all star in waiting. I only hope that talk continues until Morey can be rid of him.

kuclas · Post #1626 » by **kuclas** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:46 pm

I will be shocked if Simmons gets traded anytime this season. Teams are willing to sit on their low ball offers (aka take anyone on our team who is Considered expendable ) plus future protected draft picks worth nothing due to the protections attached

KramerDSP · Post #1627 » by **KramerDSP** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:52 pm

Read on Twitter

Skates · Post #1628 » by **Skates** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:00 pm

My guess is that Morey is asking for the moon when a non-star player is the main part of the other offer, not saying no completely in case the other side is crazy and agrees, but keeping Simmons on the market for the specific players he wants or to force a three way deal to get that unless a non-star deal comes along that is literally crazy good.

Negrodamus · Post #1629 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:19 pm

"Daryl is asking for the moon. He won't even consider former MVP Russell Westbrook for Ben. What a slimeball!"

KramerDSP · Post #1630 » by **KramerDSP** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:25 pm

Read on Twitter

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No way it’s Ingram plus picks plus swaps, right?!?! It’s gotta be a pu pu platter with picks and swaps. Unless NOLA thinks pairing Zion with Ben saves their season and his job (Griffin).

Mik317 · Post #1631 » by **Mik317** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:30 pm

Said in the article Ingram is not apart of the offer.

Which yeah...picks would be nice and the Pels probably won't turn the season around with Ben especially if Zion stays out (also think that is a bad fit in general) but that feels like something we move in a three team trade to get the guy from a team who doesn't want Ben and just wants to rebuild...but good luck with that.

the_process · Post #1632 » by **the_process** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:35 pm

mjkvol wrote:SGA (if attainable)
Ingram

Fox
Murray

Beal

I want no part of Beal. Older, and clearly wants to be elsewhere. Same with Lillard, plus that awful contract.

I'd still put Beal ahead of Murray or Fox. And t he main piecs to me in a Spurs deal are Devin Vassell and their unprotected 1st this year. Get those two things, and the Spurs can throw 30M of trash on top.

Sixersftw · Post #1633 » by **Sixersftw** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:53 pm

KramerDSP wrote:

Read on Twitter
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No way it’s Ingram plus picks plus swaps, right?!?! It’s gotta be a pu pu platter with picks and swaps. Unless NOLA thinks pairing Zion with Ben saves their season and his job (Griffin).

I'm guessing this would be a series of moves. If the Pels are willing to give up the full boat for Simmons and you can turn around and flip the picks/swaps for a star you got something going.

I like it.

bball4life · Post #1634 » by **bball4life** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:15 pm

Sixersftw wrote:
KramerDSP wrote:

Read on Twitter
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No way it’s Ingram plus picks plus swaps, right?!?! It’s gotta be a pu pu platter with picks and swaps. Unless NOLA thinks pairing Zion with Ben saves their season and his job (Griffin).

I'm guessing this would be a series of moves. If the Pels are willing to give up the full boat for Simmons and you can turn around and flip the picks/swaps for a star you got something going.

I like it.

Well I think if someone like Lillard were to be traded it would be for a full rebuild type package which this would be. Ultimately multiple FRPs and swaps maintain value for years as well if nothing this year make sense.

the_process · Post #1635 » by **the_process** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:18 pm

Everyone right now is still offering scrubs and picks apparently. Good news is KAT is getting pissed in Minnesota.

KramerDSP · Post #1636 » by **KramerDSP** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:58 pm

The Pelicans are bad enough that if the picks were unprotected, there’s an outside shot that Philly gets a top three pick this year and then gets the right to swap for first overall next year (Wembanyama).

If the Pelicans offer three picks and three swaps with no real players coming back, who bites?

Madd Squabbles · Post #1637 » by **Madd Squabbles** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:12 pm

Tomjas wrote:Kings get Simmons & Thad Young

Spurs get Bagley

Pelicans get Fox

Sixers get Ingram

Ingram is a much better player than Fox. No way I do that if I'm the Pels.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1638 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:16 pm

I know both Dame and Portland have said no trade looming, but man are they a mess. I see no way up for them.

thenbaman · Post #1639 » by **thenbaman** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:20 pm

Negrodamus wrote:"Daryl is asking for the moon. He won't even consider former MVP Russell Westbrook for Ben. What a slimeball!"

Westbrook is cooked,no thanks.

eyeatoma · Post #1640 » by **eyeatoma** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:21 pm

Gonna take the deadline I guess. These teams really need to bottom out.