Fantasy Trade Thread

[Stanford]

lol why are we trading for Jimmy Butler when Embiid can't even get on the court?

[76ciology]

lol why are we trading for Jimmy Butler when Embiid can't even get on the court?

This assumes that Embiid returns this season, with Jimmy taking the lead in the meantime, similar to how he leads the Heat right now. Jimmy can keep the team competitive and afloat while we wait for George and Embiid to rejoin and solidify the lineup.

[the_process]

Heat:
Tyrese Maxey
Kenyon Martin Jr

Sixers:
Jimmy Butler
Heat 2029 1st round pick top 5 protected
Heat 2030 pick swap option

Heat got themselves a happy camper.
Sixers got themselves a lead guard that can play with McCain and allow Embiid to be a beta.

I like the boldness, and I am worried about Maxey; but I don't think Riley or Morey agrees to this valuation. And while I wouldn't do this trade, it is definitely true that the idea of building something sustainable like the Spurs had for 15 years is dead.

If Morey really is ride or die with Joel, then maxing Jimmy for 3 years wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Their core 4 would then all be locked in for 3+ years. Can Nurse handle Jimmy though?

And once PG and Jimmy are done, set the explosives everywhere.

[Stanford]

I can't believe how many people have turned on Maxey. Unbelievable. You guys deserve this ****.

[Negrodamus]

Yea I couldn't get rid of Maxey for Jimmy Butler. Sorry, you can't count on Jimmy, PG, and Embiid to survive long enough until the playoffs. I'd rather try with the current team and reassess if we need to blow it up and build around Maxey/McCain.

[mjkvol]

I can't believe how many people have turned on Maxey. Unbelievable. You guys deserve this ****.

We have a few here who have been trying to peddle him off for one washed vet or another since he showed he could play. The only shock is that this warped organization hasn't actually done it.

[76ciology]

Sixers > Maxey

You do what’s best for the team. We’re not talking about trading Maxey for role players like DFS or Cam Johnson. I’m proposing scenarios where we bring in Giannis Antetokounmpo or Jimmy Butler.

If we can get Giannis for Maxey, then go ahead. I would have even made a proposal for Steph but GSW looks to be locked in for another run.

Yes, Jimmy Butler may only have a few elite seasons left, but the same can be said for Joel Embiid and Paul George. This ultimately boils down to a choice: Embiid or Maxey.

If you decide against trading Maxey, you’re effectively deciding not to maximize the window to win with Embiid. To contend with Embiid, you need another alpha to lead when Embiid is not playing. And honestly, even with Embiid, you still need someone capable of taking over—because let’s face it, Embiid and George have often played a more passive, “beta” role during the postseason.

Can Maxey truly be that alpha? I believed he had the potential, especially with the addition of Paul George, who I thought could complement him and help address any gaps in his game. But as fate would have it, luck chose to throw us a curveball, complicating the situation.

The team’s priority should be winning a championship within this timeline, and bold moves are necessary to achieve that.

This 10+ year program revolves entirely around Embiid. To stick with it, you need to remain objective and committed. If it becomes clear you can’t win with Embiid, the logical next step is to pivot and rebuild.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I can't believe Maxey is being thrown into trade ideas. WTF man...It's a down year, that is all.

[Dan Verze]

With McCain being a Maxey-type player, it could make Tyrese expandable.

How bout this:

Maxey (+ contracts (Drummond, KJ))

for

Kawhi, 2031 1st

Why? Kawhi fits better if healthy, is the better player but with his injury issues he is worth less. This could be the perfect timing, though. Tank hard now, let the BIG3 of Embiid, George, Kawhi get fully healthy, and be a good team next year with McCain-PG-Kawhi-Flagg-Embiid as starters

[M2J]

I can't believe Maxey is being thrown into trade ideas. WTF man...It's a down year, that is all.

Not even going to be a down year when it's said and done. He's played in 10 games.

These people know not what they do. Maxey for Butler idea is just heartbreaking and Riley would do everything but twerk to get Philly to do something so silly.

[Peak Brunson]

A common mistake most fans do is not wanting to trade a player until it's too late and their value is already low. Happened with Simmons, is happening with Embiid, will happen with Maxey.
No, it's not a bad idea to trade Maxey provided the value is there, we have Mccain who is set to be a very good player. However, Butler is not the one, it would be repeating the same mistake we did with George.

[Stanford]

It's the **** electric chair for all of you.

[Stanford]

A common mistake most fans do is not wanting to trade a player until it's too late and their value is already low. Happened with Simmons, is happening with Embiid, will happen with Maxey.

lol okay bro. And what difference does that make?

[Peak Brunson]

Literally, the difference between getting a lot of value for a player and getting low value for a player.
When you think about it, the main reason fans do not want to trade their "stars" is because of emotional attachment, even if they don't want to admit it. In the case of Embiid for example, I believe trading him meant in a way that the process was over, and people didn't want to accept that, so they will go the extra mile to try to make it work.

[Stanford]

When you think about it, the main reason fans do not want to trade their "stars" is because of emotional attachment, even if they don't want to admit it. In the case of Embiid for example, I believe trading him meant in a way that the process was over, and people didn't want to accept that, so they will go the extra mile to try to make it work.

And what difference does any of this make?

[Peak Brunson]

Pointing out mistakes from the past can help avoid mistakes in the future.

[Stanford]

I see

[stormi]

I can't believe how many people have turned on Maxey. Unbelievable. You guys deserve this ****.

I don't think there's any malice in performing honest Tyrese Maxey thought experiments and by no means - if we're removing the sentimentality should he be placed on a pedestal as a surefire star in this league.

We can love the kid as a person / appreciate his mercurial his scoring talent while being honest about the limitations that make him further from ideal of a modern franchise centerpiece.

Of course this goes without saying that he's still only 24 years old and still in his ascension phase as a player, but a non-passing and non defending little guard will always be a luxury piece more than a foundational one.

It's a unicorn league now where the standard for being a franchise guy are:

- 7'0 variety point centers that can score from all three levels (Jokic/Embiid/Vic)
- 6'11 NFL running backs that can put up 30/10/5 in their sleep (Giannis)
- 6'6-6'8 jumbo point guards that score and create at elite levels (Luka/Shai)
- 6'8+++ wings that score and defend at high levels (Durant/Kawhi/Tatum/Paolo/Flagg?)

Simply if you don't have a guy of this caliber your chances are non-existent. We had/have a guy of this caliber, but he's physically and mentally fragile and when that guy is not around everything about Tyrese Maxey's game crater.

McCain has somewhat proven that you can continually find little guards that can score the rock, but unless you have a reliable tier 1 type of guy then you're wasting your time by not doing everything in your power to find one whether that be tanking or trading for one.

[the_process]

The Sixers currently have no Batman. They have a couple of Robins who go Nightwing sometimes, and they have another old guy who used to be but is now just Alfred. They have a rookie who very surprisingly already looks like Alfred, but doesn't really fit with one of the Robins.

Point is everything should be on the table. Ruling things out because a late pick popped or The Process or whatever is counterproductive to the goal: winning a championship. And that is the goal in professional sports.

[Iverson Armband]

Yeah, I get not wanting to trade Maxey. But acting like it’s blasphemous to trade a player of his profile is ridiculous lol. That being said, I don’t really see a player available out there that would be better than him. I guess you could do the whole 4 FRP thing and go full tank mode.