The Ben Simmons Megathread

Sasashi · Post #1641 » by **Sasashi** » Sun Jan 7, 2018 6:57 pm

Ben simmons is currently a better defensive player than he is an offensive player. That right there just shows his immense potential. If he ever works his outside shooting up to average, he will win MULTIPLE mvp awards.

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Kobblehead · Post #1642 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Jan 7, 2018 7:00 pm

The playoffs are great for establishing narratives for yourself. We just need to get in. Then national fans and national analysts will be able to see Ben's defensive abilities.

crazy_me_87 · Post #1643 » by **crazy_me_87** » Sun Jan 7, 2018 7:37 pm

Sasashi wrote:Ben simmons is currently a better defensive player than he is an offensive player. That right there just shows his immense potential. If he ever works his outside shooting up to average, he will win MULTIPLE mvp awards.

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Exactly. Its just baffling that he is basically "meh" on Offense so far.. and still putting up 17 Points and 7.5 Assists on over .500% shooting..

Cant even really imagine what his Numbers will look like once he truly gets the hang of the Game .. and hell if he ever even only becomes a "bad" shooter (35% Midrange and 30% Three) instead of a basically non shooter... oh boy..

crazy_me_87 · Post #1644 » by **crazy_me_87** » Sun Jan 7, 2018 7:51 pm

Kobblehead wrote:The playoffs are great for establishing narratives for yourself. We just need to get in. Then national fans and national analysts will be able to see Ben's defensive abilities.

I think its not that unlikely that the Sixers make the Playoffs. They had one of the hardest Schedules so far and still are 19-19. With a much easier Schedule ahead its not hard to see a record above .500 wich basically almost guarantees a Playoff spot

BoomBap · Post #1645 » by **BoomBap** » Sun Jan 7, 2018 8:50 pm

Our schedule in february and march is so much easier compared to this month and december.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #1646 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Sun Jan 7, 2018 11:15 pm

December was the easiest month of the season and they blew it. If they miss the playoffs, that month will be the reason why.

Post #1647 » by **Sixerscan** » Sun Jan 7, 2018 11:37 pm

The opponents in Feb-April have a lower win percentage than December last time I checked a few weeks ago.

Health is bigger than the schedule imo. They play their best when everyone can play every game and they can establish a consistent rotation.

nrok10307 · Post #1648 » by **nrok10307** » Mon Jan 8, 2018 12:12 am

Sixerscan wrote:The opponents in Feb-April have a lower win percentage than December last time I checked a few weeks ago.

Health is bigger than the schedule imo. They play their best when everyone can play every game and they can establish a consistent rotation.

Yea for sure, there’s a lot of bad teams they havent played yet - Brooklyn, charlotte, etc. Overall their schedule on the back end of the season is easier. Health is the concern - can Embiid stay healthy for a playoff run and the post season. That is TBD.

Unfortunately, the downside of the superstar/big3 strategy is that youre dependent on the health of your big3...

LongLiveHinkie · Post #1649 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Jan 8, 2018 3:01 am

On one hand, if the Sixers miss the playoffs because of injury issues to their star players it'll be hard to blame them. On the other hand, one of the teams likely to finish ahead of them for the playoffs would be the Miami Heat, and they don't even have any star players period, so I'd probably still be pretty pissed off. I just don't see any excuse not to make the playoffs in a conference this putrid. It would be a sizeable disappointment. Not end of days, but definitely enough for someone to lose a job over it. Whether it be BB, BC, or a few players dumped.

Simmons25 · Post #1650 » by **Simmons25** » Mon Jan 8, 2018 5:13 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:I just don't see any excuse not to make the playoffs in a conference this putrid. It would be a sizeable disappointment. Not end of days, but definitely enough for someone to lose a job over it. Whether it be BB, BC, or a few players dumped.

If we don't make the playoffs it will be because Joel Embiid will continue to miss 24% of the season.

38 games played.
17-12 with Embiid
2-7 without Embiid

If Embiid stays fit and plays all the remaining games we are tracking to finish 45-37
If Embiid continues to miss 24% of the season we are tracking to finish 41-41

The reality is we aren't a playoff team without Embiid... the guy is borderline superstar. With him we can beat anyone in the league. Should someone lose a job over that? I can't see why they would.

SexDrugsPnR · Post #1651 » by **SexDrugsPnR** » Mon Jan 8, 2018 7:38 am

Simmons25 wrote:If we don't make the playoffs it will be because Joel Embiid will continue to miss 24% of the season.

38 games played.
17-12 with Embiid
2-7 without Embiid

If Embiid stays fit and plays all the remaining games we are tracking to finish 45-37
If Embiid continues to miss 24% of the season we are tracking to finish 32-50

That doesn't make a lot of sense. If we are .500 now with Embiid missing 24%, then obviously we are trending to be .500 at the end of the season if he continues to miss the same percentage of games.

sixers4real · Post #1652 » by **sixers4real** » Mon Jan 8, 2018 8:25 am

Simmons25 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:I just don't see any excuse not to make the playoffs in a conference this putrid. It would be a sizeable disappointment. Not end of days, but definitely enough for someone to lose a job over it. Whether it be BB, BC, or a few players dumped.

If we don't make the playoffs it will be because Joel Embiid will continue to miss 24% of the season.

38 games played.
17-12 with Embiid
2-7 without Embiid

If Embiid stays fit and plays all the remaining games we are tracking to finish 45-37
If Embiid continues to miss 24% of the season we are tracking to finish 32-50

The reality is we aren't a playoff team without Embiid... the guy is borderline superstar. With him we can beat anyone in the league. Should someone lose a job over that? I can't see why they would.

Exactly.
Embiid played 29 of 38 games, which is 76% of the games played. This right.
17-12 with Jojo, which is .586
2-7 without Jojo, which is .222

So, if Joel keeps playing 76% of the remaining games (44), which will be 34, and we keep the same track, it will be:
20-14 with Jojo.
2-8 without Jojo.

41-41 will be the result of our season.
But thats just numbers.

Getting back to the Simmons thread, I like how aggressive he has been the last games. Although I don't see him in the ASG this year, he still should be named the ROY.

Simmons25 · Post #1653 » by **Simmons25** » Mon Jan 8, 2018 10:35 am

SexDrugsPnR wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:If we don't make the playoffs it will be because Joel Embiid will continue to miss 24% of the season.

38 games played.
17-12 with Embiid
2-7 without Embiid

If Embiid stays fit and plays all the remaining games we are tracking to finish 45-37
If Embiid continues to miss 24% of the season we are tracking to finish 32-50

That doesn't make a lot of sense. If we are .500 now with Embiid missing 24%, then obviously we are trending to be .500 at the end of the season if he continues to miss the same percentage of games.

Whoops you are right.. my math was off! We would finish 41-41. I've fixed it :nod:

BigSleep333 · Post #1654 » by **BigSleep333** » Mon Jan 8, 2018 7:30 pm

Simmons25 wrote:
SexDrugsPnR wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:If we don't make the playoffs it will be because Joel Embiid will continue to miss 24% of the season.

38 games played.
17-12 with Embiid
2-7 without Embiid

If Embiid stays fit and plays all the remaining games we are tracking to finish 45-37
If Embiid continues to miss 24% of the season we are tracking to finish 32-50

That doesn't make a lot of sense. If we are .500 now with Embiid missing 24%, then obviously we are trending to be .500 at the end of the season if he continues to miss the same percentage of games.

Whoops you are right.. my math was off! We would finish 41-41. I've fixed it

you guys ignoring strength of schedule. we will win more games both with and without embiid and even more, when simmons plays like last game

(and with fultz coming back...regardless of him shooting well or not, a shaq-shooting fultz is still better than brainless)

LongLiveHinkie · Post #1655 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Tue Jan 9, 2018 12:05 am

Simmons25 · Post #1656 » by **Simmons25** » Tue Jan 9, 2018 2:23 am

BigSleep333 wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:
SexDrugsPnR wrote:That doesn't make a lot of sense. If we are .500 now with Embiid missing 24%, then obviously we are trending to be .500 at the end of the season if he continues to miss the same percentage of games.

Whoops you are right.. my math was off! We would finish 41-41. I've fixed it

you guys ignoring strength of schedule. we will win more games both with and without embiid and even more, when simmons plays like last game (and with fultz coming back...regardless of him shooting well or not, a shaq-shooting fultz is still better than brainless)

Not true. We lost games without Embiid that were very very winnable against poor teams so strength of schedule didn't matter.

We lost to Chicago by 2 and Sacramento by 6 without Embiid in games that we would have easily won if he had played.

Those 2 losses are the difference between us being 4th or 9th where we are now. If we were 4th nobody would be calling for Brett Brown's head and all would be well in the world. That's how much of a fine line it is between us being a decent playoffs team and missing altogether. We need Embiid to play and he needs to play back to backs.

Simmons25 · Post #1657 » by **Simmons25** » Tue Jan 9, 2018 2:25 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:

Does that mean Ben leads the league in that category (Amongst all players not just rookies)?

76ciology · Post #1658 » by **76ciology** » Tue Jan 9, 2018 2:31 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:

Whats the definition for this?

I have Tatum on top of the list for this. Tatum has reliable shooting and finishing with decent ISO moves. On the other hand, Ben always pass up clutch shot attempts to Saric.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #1659 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Tue Jan 9, 2018 2:58 am

Not sure, it was posted without explanation.

Simmons25 · Post #1660 » by **Simmons25** » Tue Jan 9, 2018 6:39 am

76ciology wrote:Whats the definition for this?

I have Tatum on top of the list for this. Tatum has reliable shooting and finishing with decent ISO moves. On the other hand, Ben always pass up clutch shot attempts to Saric.

Apparently this. Ben's last 3 or 4 games where he has been aggressive in the last 5 minutes of games would definitely have improved that statistic.

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