2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

[Da Doctor]

Eliot Shorr-Parks is one of the most unqualified morons in Philly media

[sixers hoops]

Teams draft guys against their will all the time. The players never sit out so don’t make false comparisons because you’re blackpilling again.

If we pick Ace, he’ll show up and play hard. Try to be a supportive fan please.

Yeah. No player is holding out the entire year. People used these same fear mongering scenarios with Ben, Harden, etc., and Morey eventually got what he wanted.

Ace has a really bad agent so unpredictable tactics are possible, but they aren’t going to sit out the entire season. If he sat out, he would lose $8.5 million. Get drafted lower next year and lose another $10-15 million on the value of his new rookie contract, and delay his first free agency by a year, setting him back a few more million. He will probably lose $20-$30 million, and he will have no control over where he ends up next year. I don’t think the Sixers want him anyway, but if they do, I wouldn’t be concerned about taking him.

They literally asked Morey to commit to him in order for him to work out.... Which is a tactic elite players (usually the first or second pick does when they don't want to risk injury or negative press (like the bull crap that came out about VJ today) to get out.

But my point is that there's no reason to believe he won't play for Philly, if anything he wants Philly to guarantee he'll play.

I haven't read that article yet. Just watch Jurassic world rebirth and it was mid..... From what I can tell from some of your posts. I don't really take very much regarding judgment on Ace or judgment on the agent from this stuff from 23 years ago, nor the inhaler stuff when we just saw him play a full season and he actually competed at the combine and was one of the best athletes there. The agent is clearly an experience by his resume, but the move to choose your own destination is not that uncommon and as they continue to leak that they don't feel any fear and are confident that he will be picked up meaning they already have promises from the team they want to go to. Which makes me believe that he will ultimately be selected at three either by Philly or tradeed

They aren’t going to commit to drafting him before the workout and having the opportunity to meet with him in person. The point of the private meeting and workout is to learn more about the player to determine if they want to draft him. And it is uncommon for the third pick to refuse to workout for anybody. Reed Sheppard worked out for several teams before being drafted third. Scoot Henderson worked out for two teams prior to being selected third. Jabari Smith Jr worked out for two teams before being selected third.

Saying his agent is scared he will get hurt is a cop out. If that were true, he would still meet with teams privately. He doesn’t have confidence that his player will perform well, and is potentially costing him significant career earnings. That is why he scheduled a meeting with a team and later cancel it. His agent doesn’t have a good grasp on the situation.

VJ isn’t scared to workout and meet with teams, and now he is the favorite to be drafted third. He has clearly leaped Ace in this process, so is being afraid of negative press really worth it? He has a horrible agent giving him very poor advice and costing him significant lifetime earnings.

You seem to be complimenting his agent for getting a promise from a team that will cost his client tens of millions of dollars. If you need an agent to tank your value and cost you significant amounts of lifetime earnings in an effort to get you into an uncompetitive environment, them he is your guy. However, you could easily tank your own value without giving an agent a cut. If an agent’s goal is to lose you millions of dollars because he thinks you need to be in a situation with no competition, it’s probably time to find a new agent.

[the_process]

Let the bidding war commence!!!

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Let's hope this is true. WSH and NOP and BKN in a bidding war to pay Morey is wonderful. That is what we should want.

Should not be in love with anyone on the board, save Flagg who even Nico Isn't trading. Ideally Sixers draft a couple guys, accumulate some future assets, and grab a win now player or two.

[the_process]

Yeah. No player is holding out the entire year. People used these same fear mongering scenarios with Ben, Harden, etc., and Morey eventually got what he wanted.

Ace has a really bad agent so unpredictable tactics are possible, but they aren’t going to sit out the entire season. If he sat out, he would lose $8.5 million. Get drafted lower next year and lose another $10-15 million on the value of his new rookie contract, and delay his first free agency by a year, setting him back a few more million. He will probably lose $20-$30 million, and he will have no control over where he ends up next year. I don’t think the Sixers want him anyway, but if they do, I wouldn’t be concerned about taking him.

They literally asked Morey to commit to him in order for him to work out.... Which is a tactic elite players (usually the first or second pick does when they don't want to risk injury or negative press (like the bull crap that came out about VJ today) to get out.

But my point is that there's no reason to believe he won't play for Philly, if anything he wants Philly to guarantee he'll play.

I haven't read that article yet. Just watch Jurassic world rebirth and it was mid..... From what I can tell from some of your posts. I don't really take very much regarding judgment on Ace or judgment on the agent from this stuff from 23 years ago, nor the inhaler stuff when we just saw him play a full season and he actually competed at the combine and was one of the best athletes there. The agent is clearly an experience by his resume, but the move to choose your own destination is not that uncommon and as they continue to leak that they don't feel any fear and are confident that he will be picked up meaning they already have promises from the team they want to go to. Which makes me believe that he will ultimately be selected at three either by Philly or tradeed

They aren’t going to commit to drafting him before the workout and having the opportunity to meet with him in person. The point of the private meeting and workout is to learn more about the player to determine if they want to draft him. And it is uncommon for the third pick to refuse to workout for anybody. Reed Sheppard worked out for several teams before being drafted third. Scoot Henderson worked out for two teams prior to being selected third. Jabari Smith Jr worked out for two teams before being selected third.

Saying his agent is scared he will get hurt is a cop out. If that were true, he would still meet with teams privately. He doesn’t have confidence that his player will perform well, and is potentially costing him significant career earnings. That is why he scheduled a meeting with a team and later cancel it. His agent doesn’t have a good grasp on the situation.

VJ isn’t scared to workout and meet with teams, and now he is the favorite to be drafted third. He has clearly leaped Ace in this process, so is being afraid of negative press really worth it? He has a horrible agent giving him very poor advice and costing him significant lifetime earnings.

You seem to be complimenting his agent for getting a promise from a team that will cost his client tens of millions of dollars. If you need an agent to tank your value and cost you significant amounts of lifetime earnings in an effort to get you into an uncompetitive environment, them he is your guy. However, you could easily tank your own value without giving an agent a cut. If an agent’s goal is to lose you millions of dollars because he thinks you need to be in a situation with no competition, it’s probably time to find a new agent.

He just gets scared at the workout and forgets how to shoot.

[Covi_Marsh]

Eliot Shorr-Parks is one of the most unqualified morons in Philly media

Doesn’t take away from the vision. He definitely is a click bait kind of guy. Since he’s been working with Eagles the extreme takes have stopped for football.

[agiaco]

Maxey/McCain
Grimes/Gordon
Johnson/Oubre
PG/Edwards
Embiid/Bona

Is that a horrible defensive team?

yes.

Mostly because Embiid is probably cooked lol.

PG can't guard 4s full time and Johnson even if you think he improves is still 190 so he can't guard forwards full time. I also think Grimes is a bit overrated defensively too.

We'd have to play faster and more reckless on defense in that scenario.

Fair. Don’t see how VJ or Kon being inserted instead of Tre really changes things though. MAYBE Ace but he isn’t an option in my mind.

Seems like as long as Embiid and George are here, things are bleak.

That's a whole lotta guys who want to shoot and not many who give a crap on the other end of the court.

[sixers hoops]

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DONT GIVE UP ON THE ACE DREAM lol

The Sixers are actually the worst ever at keeping secrets. Morey got caught offering Tucker and House contracts a month before free agency started. Multiple reports indicated that Elton Brand was drafting Thybulle and Joe weeks before the draft. It was so obvious that Ainge threatened to take Thybulle and made Elton give him the 33rd pick to move up.

This guy is an idiot, but the Sixers are the worst at keeping secrets.

[Sixersftw]

Eliot Shorr-Parks is one of the most unqualified morons in Philly media

I'm hearing that Cooper Flagg associates with reputed Los Angeles street gang members.

[sodmoraes]

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DONT GIVE UP ON THE ACE DREAM lol

I wanna believe!

[Covi_Marsh]

Yeah. No player is holding out the entire year. People used these same fear mongering scenarios with Ben, Harden, etc., and Morey eventually got what he wanted.

Ace has a really bad agent so unpredictable tactics are possible, but they aren’t going to sit out the entire season. If he sat out, he would lose $8.5 million. Get drafted lower next year and lose another $10-15 million on the value of his new rookie contract, and delay his first free agency by a year, setting him back a few more million. He will probably lose $20-$30 million, and he will have no control over where he ends up next year. I don’t think the Sixers want him anyway, but if they do, I wouldn’t be concerned about taking him.

They literally asked Morey to commit to him in order for him to work out.... Which is a tactic elite players (usually the first or second pick does when they don't want to risk injury or negative press (like the bull crap that came out about VJ today) to get out.

But my point is that there's no reason to believe he won't play for Philly, if anything he wants Philly to guarantee he'll play.

I haven't read that article yet. Just watch Jurassic world rebirth and it was mid..... From what I can tell from some of your posts. I don't really take very much regarding judgment on Ace or judgment on the agent from this stuff from 23 years ago, nor the inhaler stuff when we just saw him play a full season and he actually competed at the combine and was one of the best athletes there. The agent is clearly an experience by his resume, but the move to choose your own destination is not that uncommon and as they continue to leak that they don't feel any fear and are confident that he will be picked up meaning they already have promises from the team they want to go to. Which makes me believe that he will ultimately be selected at three either by Philly or tradeed

They aren’t going to commit to drafting him before the workout and having the opportunity to meet with him in person. The point of the private meeting and workout is to learn more about the player to determine if they want to draft him. And it is uncommon for the third pick to refuse to workout for anybody. Reed Sheppard worked out for several teams before being drafted third. Scoot Henderson worked out for two teams prior to being selected third. Jabari Smith Jr worked out for two teams before being selected third.

Saying his agent is scared he will get hurt is a cop out. If that were true, he would still meet with teams privately. He doesn’t have confidence that his player will perform well, and is potentially costing him significant career earnings. That is why he scheduled a meeting with a team and later cancel it. His agent doesn’t have a good grasp on the situation.

VJ isn’t scared to workout and meet with teams, and now he is the favorite to be drafted third. He has clearly leaped Ace in this process, so is being afraid of negative press really worth it? He has a horrible agent giving him very poor advice and costing him significant lifetime earnings.

You seem to be complimenting his agent for getting a promise from a team that will cost his client tens of millions of dollars. If you need an agent to tank your value and cost you significant amounts of lifetime earnings in an effort to get you into an uncompetitive environment, them he is your guy. However, you could easily tank your own value without giving an agent a cut. If an agent’s goal is to lose you millions of dollars because he thinks you need to be in a situation with no competition, it’s probably time to find a new agent.

Teams lie and make promises all the time. Lying to him and his one client wouldn’t be the end of the world lol. Not like he would be lying to Klutch.

[sixers hoops]

They literally asked Morey to commit to him in order for him to work out.... Which is a tactic elite players (usually the first or second pick does when they don't want to risk injury or negative press (like the bull crap that came out about VJ today) to get out.

But my point is that there's no reason to believe he won't play for Philly, if anything he wants Philly to guarantee he'll play.

I haven't read that article yet. Just watch Jurassic world rebirth and it was mid..... From what I can tell from some of your posts. I don't really take very much regarding judgment on Ace or judgment on the agent from this stuff from 23 years ago, nor the inhaler stuff when we just saw him play a full season and he actually competed at the combine and was one of the best athletes there. The agent is clearly an experience by his resume, but the move to choose your own destination is not that uncommon and as they continue to leak that they don't feel any fear and are confident that he will be picked up meaning they already have promises from the team they want to go to. Which makes me believe that he will ultimately be selected at three either by Philly or tradeed

They aren’t going to commit to drafting him before the workout and having the opportunity to meet with him in person. The point of the private meeting and workout is to learn more about the player to determine if they want to draft him. And it is uncommon for the third pick to refuse to workout for anybody. Reed Sheppard worked out for several teams before being drafted third. Scoot Henderson worked out for two teams prior to being selected third. Jabari Smith Jr worked out for two teams before being selected third.

Saying his agent is scared he will get hurt is a cop out. If that were true, he would still meet with teams privately. He doesn’t have confidence that his player will perform well, and is potentially costing him significant career earnings. That is why he scheduled a meeting with a team and later cancel it. His agent doesn’t have a good grasp on the situation.

VJ isn’t scared to workout and meet with teams, and now he is the favorite to be drafted third. He has clearly leaped Ace in this process, so is being afraid of negative press really worth it? He has a horrible agent giving him very poor advice and costing him significant lifetime earnings.

You seem to be complimenting his agent for getting a promise from a team that will cost his client tens of millions of dollars. If you need an agent to tank your value and cost you significant amounts of lifetime earnings in an effort to get you into an uncompetitive environment, them he is your guy. However, you could easily tank your own value without giving an agent a cut. If an agent’s goal is to lose you millions of dollars because he thinks you need to be in a situation with no competition, it’s probably time to find a new agent.

He just gets scared at the workout and forgets how to shoot.

He isn’t a pure shooter anyway, so no surprise from the Sixers. And it didn’t hurt his stock at all.

[sixers hoops]

They literally asked Morey to commit to him in order for him to work out.... Which is a tactic elite players (usually the first or second pick does when they don't want to risk injury or negative press (like the bull crap that came out about VJ today) to get out.

But my point is that there's no reason to believe he won't play for Philly, if anything he wants Philly to guarantee he'll play.

I haven't read that article yet. Just watch Jurassic world rebirth and it was mid..... From what I can tell from some of your posts. I don't really take very much regarding judgment on Ace or judgment on the agent from this stuff from 23 years ago, nor the inhaler stuff when we just saw him play a full season and he actually competed at the combine and was one of the best athletes there. The agent is clearly an experience by his resume, but the move to choose your own destination is not that uncommon and as they continue to leak that they don't feel any fear and are confident that he will be picked up meaning they already have promises from the team they want to go to. Which makes me believe that he will ultimately be selected at three either by Philly or tradeed

They aren’t going to commit to drafting him before the workout and having the opportunity to meet with him in person. The point of the private meeting and workout is to learn more about the player to determine if they want to draft him. And it is uncommon for the third pick to refuse to workout for anybody. Reed Sheppard worked out for several teams before being drafted third. Scoot Henderson worked out for two teams prior to being selected third. Jabari Smith Jr worked out for two teams before being selected third.

Saying his agent is scared he will get hurt is a cop out. If that were true, he would still meet with teams privately. He doesn’t have confidence that his player will perform well, and is potentially costing him significant career earnings. That is why he scheduled a meeting with a team and later cancel it. His agent doesn’t have a good grasp on the situation.

VJ isn’t scared to workout and meet with teams, and now he is the favorite to be drafted third. He has clearly leaped Ace in this process, so is being afraid of negative press really worth it? He has a horrible agent giving him very poor advice and costing him significant lifetime earnings.

You seem to be complimenting his agent for getting a promise from a team that will cost his client tens of millions of dollars. If you need an agent to tank your value and cost you significant amounts of lifetime earnings in an effort to get you into an uncompetitive environment, them he is your guy. However, you could easily tank your own value without giving an agent a cut. If an agent’s goal is to lose you millions of dollars because he thinks you need to be in a situation with no competition, it’s probably time to find a new agent.

Teams lie and make promises all the time. Lying to him and his one client wouldn’t be the end of the world lol. Not like he would be lying to Klutch.

What are you referring to?

[Arsenal]

Ringer comes full circle to Sixers taking ACE at #3 overall (but probably for trade)...

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

#3 for #6 + #18 or Coulibaly and I'm down, as long as we get Tre. Which could happen as long as UTA at #5 takes Kon or Fears.

[Lou_23]

Rumors with Washington were also with VJ E. Not sure if they would trade up for Bailey who can be available with 6

[sixers hoops]

They literally asked Morey to commit to him in order for him to work out.... Which is a tactic elite players (usually the first or second pick does when they don't want to risk injury or negative press (like the bull crap that came out about VJ today) to get out.

But my point is that there's no reason to believe he won't play for Philly, if anything he wants Philly to guarantee he'll play.

I haven't read that article yet. Just watch Jurassic world rebirth and it was mid..... From what I can tell from some of your posts. I don't really take very much regarding judgment on Ace or judgment on the agent from this stuff from 23 years ago, nor the inhaler stuff when we just saw him play a full season and he actually competed at the combine and was one of the best athletes there. The agent is clearly an experience by his resume, but the move to choose your own destination is not that uncommon and as they continue to leak that they don't feel any fear and are confident that he will be picked up meaning they already have promises from the team they want to go to. Which makes me believe that he will ultimately be selected at three either by Philly or tradeed

They aren’t going to commit to drafting him before the workout and having the opportunity to meet with him in person. The point of the private meeting and workout is to learn more about the player to determine if they want to draft him. And it is uncommon for the third pick to refuse to workout for anybody. Reed Sheppard worked out for several teams before being drafted third. Scoot Henderson worked out for two teams prior to being selected third. Jabari Smith Jr worked out for two teams before being selected third.

Saying his agent is scared he will get hurt is a cop out. If that were true, he would still meet with teams privately. He doesn’t have confidence that his player will perform well, and is potentially costing him significant career earnings. That is why he scheduled a meeting with a team and later cancel it. His agent doesn’t have a good grasp on the situation.

VJ isn’t scared to workout and meet with teams, and now he is the favorite to be drafted third. He has clearly leaped Ace in this process, so is being afraid of negative press really worth it? He has a horrible agent giving him very poor advice and costing him significant lifetime earnings.

You seem to be complimenting his agent for getting a promise from a team that will cost his client tens of millions of dollars. If you need an agent to tank your value and cost you significant amounts of lifetime earnings in an effort to get you into an uncompetitive environment, them he is your guy. However, you could easily tank your own value without giving an agent a cut. If an agent’s goal is to lose you millions of dollars because he thinks you need to be in a situation with no competition, it’s probably time to find a new agent.

Teams lie and make promises all the time. Lying to him and his one client wouldn’t be the end of the world lol. Not like he would be lying to Klutch.

I see. You are saying they should lie and just tell Ace they are taking him lol. After Harden’s “Daryl Morey is a liar campaign,” that prob wouldn’t be his best move.

[Covi_Marsh]

They aren’t going to commit to drafting him before the workout and having the opportunity to meet with him in person. The point of the private meeting and workout is to learn more about the player to determine if they want to draft him. And it is uncommon for the third pick to refuse to workout for anybody. Reed Sheppard worked out for several teams before being drafted third. Scoot Henderson worked out for two teams prior to being selected third. Jabari Smith Jr worked out for two teams before being selected third.

Saying his agent is scared he will get hurt is a cop out. If that were true, he would still meet with teams privately. He doesn’t have confidence that his player will perform well, and is potentially costing him significant career earnings. That is why he scheduled a meeting with a team and later cancel it. His agent doesn’t have a good grasp on the situation.

VJ isn’t scared to workout and meet with teams, and now he is the favorite to be drafted third. He has clearly leaped Ace in this process, so is being afraid of negative press really worth it? He has a horrible agent giving him very poor advice and costing him significant lifetime earnings.

You seem to be complimenting his agent for getting a promise from a team that will cost his client tens of millions of dollars. If you need an agent to tank your value and cost you significant amounts of lifetime earnings in an effort to get you into an uncompetitive environment, them he is your guy. However, you could easily tank your own value without giving an agent a cut. If an agent’s goal is to lose you millions of dollars because he thinks you need to be in a situation with no competition, it’s probably time to find a new agent.

Teams lie and make promises all the time. Lying to him and his one client wouldn’t be the end of the world lol. Not like he would be lying to Klutch.

What are you referring to?

Just the commitment to drafting him.

[sixers hoops]

Ringer comes full circle to Sixers taking ACE at #3 overall (but probably for trade)...

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft

#3 for #6 + #18 or Coulibaly and I'm down, as long as we get Tre. Which could happen as long as UTA at #5 takes Kon or Fears.

I personally don’t think Ace is going to be very good, so I really don’t want him, but he seems to have the most tools to become the 3 pick. I would trust Daryl’s team without whoever they select, because I don’t know enough about the prospects and their draft record is pretty solid.

With that being said, I think the most value for us might be trading out. Ace, at least a month or two ago, was the consensus 3 pick. I would rather trade down and try to get another pick.

[Covi_Marsh]

They aren’t going to commit to drafting him before the workout and having the opportunity to meet with him in person. The point of the private meeting and workout is to learn more about the player to determine if they want to draft him. And it is uncommon for the third pick to refuse to workout for anybody. Reed Sheppard worked out for several teams before being drafted third. Scoot Henderson worked out for two teams prior to being selected third. Jabari Smith Jr worked out for two teams before being selected third.

Saying his agent is scared he will get hurt is a cop out. If that were true, he would still meet with teams privately. He doesn’t have confidence that his player will perform well, and is potentially costing him significant career earnings. That is why he scheduled a meeting with a team and later cancel it. His agent doesn’t have a good grasp on the situation.

VJ isn’t scared to workout and meet with teams, and now he is the favorite to be drafted third. He has clearly leaped Ace in this process, so is being afraid of negative press really worth it? He has a horrible agent giving him very poor advice and costing him significant lifetime earnings.

You seem to be complimenting his agent for getting a promise from a team that will cost his client tens of millions of dollars. If you need an agent to tank your value and cost you significant amounts of lifetime earnings in an effort to get you into an uncompetitive environment, them he is your guy. However, you could easily tank your own value without giving an agent a cut. If an agent’s goal is to lose you millions of dollars because he thinks you need to be in a situation with no competition, it’s probably time to find a new agent.

Teams lie and make promises all the time. Lying to him and his one client wouldn’t be the end of the world lol. Not like he would be lying to Klutch.

I see. You are saying they should lie and just tell Ace they are taking him lol. After Harden’s “Daryl Morey is a liar campaign,” that prob wouldn’t be his best move.

Players come out after retirement and say they were promised all the time. I think it’s fairly common. Even within other sports. Morey was exposed because Harden is a baby. GMs and Front offices are all about business. Will tell you, you aren’t getting traded then trade you. I doubt the commitment was the real issue.

[Covi_Marsh]

I need more rumors. It’s the afternoon. What is Morey doing lol.

[Mik317]

Maxey/McCain
Grimes/Gordon
Johnson/Oubre
PG/Edwards
Embiid/Bona

Is that a horrible defensive team?

yes.

Mostly because Embiid is probably cooked lol.

PG can't guard 4s full time and Johnson even if you think he improves is still 190 so he can't guard forwards full time. I also think Grimes is a bit overrated defensively too.

We'd have to play faster and more reckless on defense in that scenario.

Fair. Don’t see how VJ or Kon being inserted instead of Tre really changes things though. MAYBE Ace but he isn’t an option in my mind.

Seems like as long as Embiid and George are here, things are bleak.

Team will need a burly forward regardless of who they pick imo.

That was one of our (many) weaknesses last year in which we tried to play Oubre, Both Martins, and PG there and we got whooped.

It was only fine when we played Yabu and Biid together but Biid then shortly died afterwards (and Nurse for some reason went away from it asap anyway lol).

....which is probably why Negrodamus has been banging the drum for Queen lol.