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Re: Joel Embiid -- The Process is now Live 

Post#1661 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:53 am

76thBearCub wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:Hindsight is irrelevant though. Regardless of whether Embiid needs a minor procedure or has to get his leg amputated, panicking about it accomplishes nothing. There's no need to freak out until bad news actually hits. All that does is stress you out in the mean time.

But hey, if people wanna be debbie downers, be my guest. I'm not gonna be on that bandwagon though. No need to be right now.



How is hindsight irrelevant when it is in regards to us being lied to / misinformed by the organization?

Each individual injury is of course different, but I don't trust these people any further then I could throw them.


Then be miserable and live in fear everyday waiting for Embiid to be out for the season again. I don't know what to tell you. I refuse to have that mentality
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Post#1662 » by rzzzzz » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:54 am

leave us not forget what a force of nature that Embiid was at the time. willing his team to victory during those incredible, few weeks. so he wanted to come back in the Portland game. and he wanted to play in the nationally televised Houston game. and the docs looked at him and said, "Well I wouldn't necessarily advise it, but if you insist, big guy." more than coming to grips with the obvious extra precaution to shut him down whenever he's hurt, Embiid is going to have to learn how to play more efficiently, and especially work on his landings.
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Re: Joel Embiid -- The Process is now Live 

Post#1663 » by 76thBearCub » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:04 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:
76thBearCub wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:Hindsight is irrelevant though. Regardless of whether Embiid needs a minor procedure or has to get his leg amputated, panicking about it accomplishes nothing. There's no need to freak out until bad news actually hits. All that does is stress you out in the mean time.

But hey, if people wanna be debbie downers, be my guest. I'm not gonna be on that bandwagon though. No need to be right now.



How is hindsight irrelevant when it is in regards to us being lied to / misinformed by the organization?

Each individual injury is of course different, but I don't trust these people any further then I could throw them.


Then be miserable and live in fear everyday waiting for Embiid to be out for the season again. I don't know what to tell you. I refuse to have that mentality



Well, I'm absolutely not, and that is not what I said either.


I don't need you to tell me anything, thanks anyway though.
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Re: Joel Embiid -- The Process is now Live 

Post#1664 » by kukenotas » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:08 am

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Calling team doctor- doc i got a papercut, should i pit alcohool before bandaid?
Report- player put for 2 weeks for finger related injuries.
Calling doc- doc i landed badly and my knee hurts and swolen
Doc- nah its nothing you are good!



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Re: Joel Embiid -- The Process is now Live 

Post#1665 » by 76thBearCub » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:10 am

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LongLiveHinkie wrote:Hindsight is irrelevant though. Regardless of whether Embiid needs a minor procedure or has to get his leg amputated, panicking about it accomplishes nothing. There's no need to freak out until bad news actually hits. All that does is stress you out in the mean time.

But hey, if people wanna be debbie downers, be my guest. I'm not gonna be on that bandwagon though. No need to be right now.



How is hindsight irrelevant when it is in regards to us being lied to / misinformed by the organization?

Each individual injury is of course different, but I don't trust these people any further then I could throw them.


Then be miserable and live in fear everyday waiting for Embiid to be out for the season again. I don't know what to tell you. I refuse to have that mentality



I don't mean that in a rude way, but for me, I express optimism when I actually feel it is warranted. I don't walk around acting like farts smell like chocolate.
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Post#1666 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:19 am

The difference is we have no idea what is gonna happen with Embiid, so it's a matter of choice with no precedent. You can either be negative or positive about his surgery.

And no, as much as I like to poke fun at the Sixers, Okafor's injury has absolutely nothing to do with Embiid. Zero.
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Post#1667 » by 76thBearCub » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:26 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:The difference is we have no idea what is gonna happen with Embiid, so it's a matter of choice with no precedent. You can either be negative or positive about his surgery.

And no, as much as I like to poke fun at the Sixers, Okafor's injury has absolutely nothing to do with Embiid. Zero.



How can the way the team handles the situation of one (supposedly "minor") meniscus injury not have anything at all to do with how it handles yet another (supposedly "minor") meniscus injury?

I get that they are entirely different knees on entirely different people but I do not understand how there is not some kind of systematic correlation.
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Re: Joel Embiid -- The Process is now Live 

Post#1668 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:56 am

76thBearCub wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:The difference is we have no idea what is gonna happen with Embiid, so it's a matter of choice with no precedent. You can either be negative or positive about his surgery.

And no, as much as I like to poke fun at the Sixers, Okafor's injury has absolutely nothing to do with Embiid. Zero.



How can the way the team handles the situation of one (supposedly "minor") meniscus injury not have anything at all to do with how it handles yet another (supposedly "minor") meniscus injury?

I get that they are entirely different knees on entirely different people but I do not understand how there is not some kind of systematic correlation.


You just said it yourself. They're entirely different people. There is no correlation.

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Re: Joel Embiid -- The Process is now Live 

Post#1669 » by 76thBearCub » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:06 am

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76thBearCub wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:The difference is we have no idea what is gonna happen with Embiid, so it's a matter of choice with no precedent. You can either be negative or positive about his surgery.

And no, as much as I like to poke fun at the Sixers, Okafor's injury has absolutely nothing to do with Embiid. Zero.



How can the way the team handles the situation of one (supposedly "minor") meniscus injury not have anything at all to do with how it handles yet another (supposedly "minor") meniscus injury?

I get that they are entirely different knees on entirely different people but I do not understand how there is not some kind of systematic correlation.


You just said it yourself. They're entirely different people. There is no correlation.

And how did they handle Okafor incorrectly? The dude is just a fat lard who probably didn't rehab the right way and puts no work in in the offseason. No wonder he didn't heal right, look at him. The guy hurt his meniscus and he had surgery on it. What did the Sixers do wrong with Okafor? I have yet to see anything they did wrong with his surgery or recovery.


Common ground. That's good.
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Post#1670 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:17 am

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The situation seems way too sketchy for me. I get that they took the wait and see approach. I'm a Miami Dolphins fan (I know I know), and their QB suffered a bad knee injury towards the end of the season. They too dragged their feet with making a decision on what to do with him. In the end, they opted for no surgery and he should be ready for training camp. Thing is...the same species of idiot baboons that are running them are also in charge of the Sixers.
I don't trust this situation at all. Definitely not trying to be a "drama queen", I'm just sharing my opinion on the topic. I'm more than well prepared to go into next season with Richaun Holmes as our starting center.
I absolutely love Joel Embiid, he's a first ballot hall of fame player right out the box, a plug in superstar so to speak.....But he just can't stay healthy, and it's not something I personally am going to bank on.


I'm a Dolphins fan too! What did we do to deserve all of this? :lol:

Tannehill had a partial ACL tear and is much less fragile than Embiid. I can see why you might be concerned about the situation here, but it is pretty different from what happened with Tanne.


You're right, and not to go off the rails with the topic, but Tannehill might be the toughest SOB, I have ever seen play football.
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Post#1671 » by Kolkmania » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:59 pm

Was mentioned in Dunc'd On podcast, there are generally two options with meniscus damage. Either some damage control by "trimming" the meniscus, or repairing it. The latter one takes a lot longer to recover from and will prevent Embiid from some off season training.
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Post#1672 » by kriss73 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:22 am

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Post#1673 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:23 am

That's the low end of the recovery spectrum. Great news.
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Post#1674 » by Sixerscan » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:28 am

Great to hear. Even a conservative timeline should have him ready in plenty of time for camp. Hopefully there are no further complications.
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Post#1675 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:30 am

Sixers say he will be bearing weight in 2 weeks and should be a go for summer basketball activities.
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Post#1676 » by JojoSlimbiid » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:31 am

Weren't season ticket renewals closed today? What a surprise.

Glad it was the minor one though....hopefully he can get this past him and have a productive career.
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Post#1677 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:33 am

It makes sense. Most thought him delaying the surgery was a sign it was bad. I mentioned before I thought it was the opposite. If it was a major meniscus tear, surgery is the only option. Seeking a bunch of doctor opinions would be redundant. It's like tearing your ACL and seeking alternative treatments. You need reconstructive surgery.

The fact that he waited so long always told me that he probably wanted to see if he could just rehab it without needing surgery at all, and surgery is always a last resort for anything. Then they decided to just go in and clean it out so he can move on with this issue.
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Post#1678 » by Arsenal » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:35 am

Could have done that 6 weeks ago and he could have been back this year. Stealth tanking move lol.
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Post#1679 » by Sixerscan » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:45 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:It makes sense. Most thought him delaying the surgery was a sign it was bad. I mentioned before I thought it was the opposite. If it was a major meniscus tear, surgery is the only option. Seeking a bunch of doctor opinions would be redundant. It's like tearing your ACL and seeking alternative treatments. You need reconstructive surgery.

The fact that he waited so long always told me that he probably wanted to see if he could just rehab it without needing surgery at all, and surgery is always a last resort for anything. Then they decided to just go in and clean it out so he can move on with this issue.


There was a line of thinking that they wouldn't know whether he needed a repair or removal until after they scoped the knee. Removal is a much less serious surgery than repair (2-3 months versus 4-6 months). Embiid's IG story says it went better than expected. May have gotten lucky for once.
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Post#1680 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:48 am

Sixerscan wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:It makes sense. Most thought him delaying the surgery was a sign it was bad. I mentioned before I thought it was the opposite. If it was a major meniscus tear, surgery is the only option. Seeking a bunch of doctor opinions would be redundant. It's like tearing your ACL and seeking alternative treatments. You need reconstructive surgery.

The fact that he waited so long always told me that he probably wanted to see if he could just rehab it without needing surgery at all, and surgery is always a last resort for anything. Then they decided to just go in and clean it out so he can move on with this issue.


There was a line of thinking that they wouldn't know whether he needed a repair or removal until after they scoped the knee. Removal is a much less serious surgery than repair (2-3 months versus 4-6 months). Embiid's IG story says it went better than expected. May have gotten lucky for once.


MRIs can only show so much, so to get the best picture, they need to go in with a scope, but they generally have a basic idea of what they are going to do before they go in there based off of MRIs and doctor exams. I don't think they went in totally oblivious without any idea of what they were gonna do.

Either way, all I care about is it's good news.

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