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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1681 » by TTP » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:45 pm

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AdotSmoove wrote:How does this sound

PHI out: Okafor, 2 future conditional 2nds

PHI in: Knight, PHX 1st top-ten protection

PHX out: Knight, future 1st top 10 protected

PHX in: Okafor, Jeff Green

ORL out: Jeff green

ORL in: 2 conditional PHI 2nds

WHY DO IT PHI? Knight is as bad a fit in PHX as Okafor in PHI. Knight isnt really all that overpaid in today's CBA but in any case PHI isn't seriously luring a top tier free agent until 1. Embiid is regularly healthy 2. Simmons/Embiid proves it can work 3. We take another step to at least .500. Which means maybe in summer 18 we are an attractive free agent locale. Prior to the MIL-PHX trade Knight showed steady improvement in OBPM and DBPM playing over 30 mpg. I don't think that was a fluke. I could be wrong, but even so when the pick conveys it will be between 11-15 which alone is more than we can dream to get for Okafor at this point. We just have to eat Knights contract which I don't see as being a big deal under the growing salary cap.

PHX DOES IT: To cut their losses and continue blowing it up as to Knight. Jeff Green is an expiring contract. Okafor gives them what they drafted Alex Len to do. Plus Okafor/Bledsoe PNR could be very effective. With Chriss providing rim protection it helps Okafor. Bender stretching the floor also helps, but Bender is not nearly ready for 5 man minutes so the Chriss/Bender line up simply isn't ready. Maybe Okafor works out, maybe not; but Knight has most certainly not worked out.

ORL DOES IT: because the sign Jeff Green to trade at deadline was a bad decision, par for the course for Magic. Plus, 2 2nds is more than they can get from anyone else.

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Yikes, I wouldn't. You'd rather take on a negative asset that would hamper us for 3 more years AND give up two seconds than receive a prospect (with the 1sts likely cancelling each other out in value)?
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1682 » by Skates » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:54 pm

Not a fan of Brevin Knight, kind of like the fans of every team he played on. Just no.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1683 » by sixers hoops » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:59 pm

Skates wrote:Not a fan of Brandon Knight, kind of like the fans of every team he played on. Just no.


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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1684 » by Skates » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:29 pm

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Skates wrote:Not a fan of Brandon Knight, kind of like the fans of every team he played on. Just no.


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Post#1685 » by ankle420breaker » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:32 pm

Skates wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
Skates wrote:Not a fan of Brandon Knight, kind of like the fans of every team he played on. Just no.


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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1686 » by sixers hoops » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:33 pm

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sixers hoops wrote:
Skates wrote:Not a fan of Brandon Knight, kind of like the fans of every team he played on. Just no.


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Lol. I call him Brevin all the time which is why I guess I picked up on it.
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Post#1687 » by rzzzzz » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:17 pm

TTP wrote:He's not a poor rebounder because of injuries. He's not a poor PnR defender because of injuries. He's not a poor mid-range shooter because of injuries. He had these issues in college when he was healthy, as well as last season.


yes. that's where he was before he went out least year. those are the things he should have been working on with a vengeance over the off season, once he recovered. BUT HE'S STILL GOT A BUM KNEE. i'm not looking to hold onto him 4 keeps. this is Embiid's team. he's our center. i'm not even saying we should hold onto Jah until he's healthy to see if he can play with JoJo, 'cause even hurt, it seems obvious the chemistry ain't there. all i'm saying is he displayed more natural talent last year when rumors said other teams were actually interested in him, and we'd probably get more in return for him WHEN HE'S HEALTHY. that is, if time is all it takes and we don't get a worthwhile offer in the interim. (it's like trying to sell your house when the plumbing is broken.)
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1688 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:21 pm

I am a big Okafor believer and I'd trade him for Knight lol.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1689 » by TTP » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:21 pm

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TTP wrote:He's not a poor rebounder because of injuries. He's not a poor PnR defender because of injuries. He's not a poor mid-range shooter because of injuries. He had these issues in college when he was healthy, as well as last season.


yes. that's where he was before he went out least year. those are the things he should have been working on with a vengeance over the off season, once he recovered. BUT HE'S STILL GOT A BUM KNEE. i'm not looking to hold onto him 4 keeps. this is Embiid's team. he's our center. i'm not even saying we should hold onto Jah until he's healthy to see if he can play with JoJo, 'cause even hurt, it seems obvious the chemistry ain't there. all i'm saying is he displayed more natural talent last year when rumors said other teams were actually interested in him, and we'd probably get more in return for him WHEN HE'S HEALTHY. that is, if time is all it takes and we don't get a worthwhile offer in the interim. (it's like trying to sell your house when the plumbing is broken.)


Other teams were interested in him last year because he was less removed from being the 3rd overall pick, was a year younger, had one less season of poor performance, and it was easier to blame the Sixers' dysfunctional environment and lack of talent.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1690 » by eagereyez » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:22 pm

Is he gone yet?
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Post#1691 » by TTP » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:22 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I am a big Okafor believer and I'd trade him for Knight lol.


The irony here is that I dislike Okafor as much as anyone and I wouldn't trade him for Knight. Releasing Okafor for nothing is better than trading him for Knight. Knight is almost certainly a negative asset right now - the Suns should be willing to give up something to unload him.
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Post#1692 » by rzzzzz » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:36 pm

TTP wrote:Other teams were interested in him last year because he was less removed from being the 3rd overall pick, was a year younger, had one less season of poor performance, and it was easier to blame the Sixers' dysfunctional environment and lack of talent.


wow, that's more prOkafor than i'd go. i gotta disagree, though. IF Danny really was anywhere near as interested as folks gossiped, it was after he had seen just about as much of Jah as the rest of us got to see last year. just before he went down and got scoped. i think you're fixated on the wrong issue. it ain't why isn't he playing better now. it's, what the hell is going on that he's still limping around after all this time after a "minor" procedure? is he ever going to recover?
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Post#1693 » by TTP » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:38 pm

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TTP wrote:Other teams were interested in him last year because he was less removed from being the 3rd overall pick, was a year younger, had one less season of poor performance, and it was easier to blame the Sixers' dysfunctional environment and lack of talent.


wow, that's more prOkafor than i'd go. i gotta disagree, though. IF Danny really was anywhere near as interested as folks gossiped, it was after he had seen just about as much of Jah as the rest of us got to see last year. just before he went down and got scoped. i think you're fixated on the wrong issue. it ain't why isn't he playing better now. it's, what the hell is going on that he's still limping around after all this time after a "minor" procedure? is he ever going to recover?


I don't think you understood my post because it was certainly not Prokafor. I also didn't say anything about why he isn't playing better now.
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Post#1694 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:47 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:Phoenix is pretty damn bad right now. I don't see them moving a possible lottery pick, while rebuilding......for Okafor.

Phoenix is 3rd in the NBA in pace. I don't think Okafor is a fit for them at all TBH.


Phoenix might want to trade for Okafor to help them lose games lol. Then beating the Lakers hurt them. They need to put tank the Lakers and playing Okafor 30 minutes per night would ensure they keep losing and out tank the Lakers.
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Post#1695 » by rzzzzz » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:48 pm

TTP wrote: I also didn't say anything about why he isn't playing better now.


exactly. but i'm glad Keith has finally started to focus on it. 'cause who's going to take someone with a bum leg?
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Post#1696 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:00 pm

TTP wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I am a big Okafor believer and I'd trade him for Knight lol.


The irony here is that I dislike Okafor as much as anyone and I wouldn't trade him for Knight. Releasing Okafor for nothing is better than trading him for Knight. Knight is almost certainly a negative asset right now - the Suns should be willing to give up something to unload him.


Why is he a negative asset? Is his contract bad? I don't know what he's being paid. He's a scorer, but he can't seem to embrace the sixth man role that he most certainly should be playing if he wants to have a career that involves him playing on a contender. No way he's a starter. Yeah, I assume his contract is bad? I know he's not the greatest defensive player.
Let me clarify that I would only deal Okafor for him because I don't just want us to end up with nothing in return. Knight is relatively young player who like Okafor has shown ability to play in this league. He was very good in Milwaukee from what I remember.
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Post#1697 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:02 pm

Ah.... 5 year 70 million^^^
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Post#1698 » by Negrodamus » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:40 pm

Skates wrote:Not a fan of Brevin Knight, kind of like the fans of every team he played on. Just no.


I liked Brandon when he was on Kentucky. Dude was clutch as hell.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1699 » by LongLiveHinkie » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:41 pm

Chris Mannix in a radio interview said he thinks the Sixers will eventually find a deal and get it done with Okafor.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Rejoining team in Boston now 

Post#1700 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:47 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Chris Mannix in a radio interview said he thinks the Sixers will eventually find a deal and get it done with Okafor.


Yeah I agree, I'd say deadline it gets done.

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