Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6

Tomjas · Post #1681 » by **Tomjas** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:10 pm

Stanford wrote:tomjas must be filling his pants right now

Nope

I just find it strange that you guys are happy with the situation

Just to put things into perspective, the Wizards GM got positive value for both Wall & Westbrook while some of you are praising Morey for failing

It’s just weird

BoogieTime · Post #1682 » by **BoogieTime** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:11 pm

IMO might be a blessing that Lillard isn’t on the table for the Sixers, as he’s getting long in the tooth and I wasn’t impressed with him this summer in the Olympics or last night. Sixers might be better aiming for younger players other than panicking over Embiids window

But it’s early, and I think Morey would still jump for Lillard

Post #1683 » by **Stanford** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:11 pm

zaz102 wrote:
KramerDSP wrote:
zaz102 wrote:I wonder if Morey knows that the league is on his side or that doesn't come into play.

Someone make a meme of the NBA trying to figure out which button to press (Daryl Morey on Ben Simmons, and Daryl Morey on Hong Kong).
https://imgflip.com/i/5rc1ak

Coming through with bot-like efficiency

downtownpie · Post #1684 » by **downtownpie** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:12 pm

Stanford wrote:

Read on Twitter

Keep squirming, mouth-breathers

Do you think Embiid will let this drag on? I doubt it.

Morey really needs to get a deal done with the Kings and end this drama. You don't always win every deal. Some you break even.

FireMorey · Post #1685 » by **FireMorey** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:13 pm

If Daryl Morey ends up getting a star for him, I will apologize and say Morey is my daddy and everyone here was right, and if things end with him trading Simmons for like Andrew Wiggins or some role player, then I hope people at least acknowledge that Morey royally screwed this up.

I think that's a fair compromise.

Hell, I'll even admit I was wrong if Morey doesn't get a star, but gets a McCollum type + multiple 1st round picks or something. Because right now I don't think he's even going to get that.

Negrodamus · Post #1686 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:14 pm

I don't think Embiid is going to care as long as we're winning. Once again, Ben is one of the best role players in the league, but he's replaceable.

Post #1687 » by **zimpy27** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:14 pm

downtownpie wrote:
Stanford wrote:

Read on Twitter

Keep squirming, mouth-breathers

Do you think Embiid will let this drag on? I doubt it.

Morey really needs to get a deal done with the Kings and end this drama. You don't always win every deal. Some you break even.

What is Morey meant to say? We want him gone ASAP.

Morey is going to try keep his position of strength. This is effectively a gridlock until trade deadline.

KramerDSP · Post #1688 » by **KramerDSP** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:16 pm

BoogieTime wrote:IMO might be a blessing that Lillard isn’t on the table for the Sixers, as he’s getting long in the tooth and I wasn’t impressed with him this summer in the Olympics or last night. Sixers might be better aiming for younger players other than panicking over Embiids window

But it’s early, and I think Morey would still jump for Lillard

I am in the same boat. I want a guy who is ascending in the way Harden was when he was traded to Houston. I think our true hopes of winning a championship rely on Embiid being our second best player and playing the Kareem role to our developing Magic (who I guess Simmons was supposed to be).

Murray_17 · Post #1689 » by **Murray_17** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:17 pm

FireMorey wrote:
I don't get angry about sports.

What if the last best offer is worse than the one you could have gotten? Waiting is all well and good, but it's only smart if logic says his value will rise over time. The most likely scenario was his value will depreciate. He should've seen it, but he was blinded by trying to get the W instead of cashing out before the stock plummets to zero.

You look pretty mad right now, to be honest.

You can't also know his value will depreciate. Teams are gonna get more aggresive in two or 3 months because the pressure to improve is gonna be harder and also because some signings are gonna dissapoint.

Talking about value like you know what you're gonna get, is just being as petulant as you're saying Morey is acting right now.

Philly's Best · Post #1690 » by **Philly's Best** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:19 pm

Tomjas wrote:
Stanford wrote:tomjas must be filling his pants right now

Nope

I just find it strange that you guys are happy with the situation

Just to put things into perspective, the Wizards GM got positive value for both Wall & Westbrook while some of you are praising Morey for failing

It’s just weird

No one is happy with the overall situation. Just happy Morey is standing his ground. The little baby signed a deal knowing he had these concerns. Took the money and now trying to force us to trade him for scraps. Hard pass. He needs to be accountable for something once and for all. Yes Morey could've, would've, should've. He didn't and has every right to. Ben should've not taking the money and gone year to year and bet on himself like his daddy LeBron did.

Situation is what it is at this point. I'm also pretty sure the NBA and other owners are on his side to stop the BS.

Tomjas · Post #1691 » by **Tomjas** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:19 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
downtownpie wrote:
Stanford wrote:

Read on Twitter

Keep squirming, mouth-breathers

Do you think Embiid will let this drag on? I doubt it.

Morey really needs to get a deal done with the Kings and end this drama. You don't always win every deal. Some you break even.

What is Morey meant to say? We want him gone ASAP.

Morey is going to try keep his position of strength. This is effectively a gridlock until trade deadline.

First it was draft night then end of preseason then December 15 & now the deadline :lol:

Daryl has no plan other than hoping someone asks out

FireMorey · Post #1692 » by **FireMorey** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:20 pm

Murray_17 wrote:
FireMorey wrote:
I don't get angry about sports.

What if the last best offer is worse than the one you could have gotten? Waiting is all well and good, but it's only smart if logic says his value will rise over time. The most likely scenario was his value will depreciate. He should've seen it, but he was blinded by trying to get the W instead of cashing out before the stock plummets to zero.

You look pretty mad right now, to be honest.

You can't also know his value will depreciate. Teams are gonna get more aggresive in two or 3 months because the pressure to improve is gonna be harder and also because some signings are gonna dissapoint.

Talking about value like you know what you're gonna get, is just being as petulant as you're saying Morey is acting right now.

I'm offering my opinion on how I foresee things happening, there's nothing "petulant" about that. It's assessing value. I think his value is going to decline. That's my opinion, and it's why I hold the opinion that Morey played this horribly wrong. Time will tell if I'm right. And if I'm not, I'm man enough to admit it.

kriss73 · Post #1693 » by **kriss73** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:20 pm

The League should give us the a #1 pick in the 2022 Draft because we don't let a (young) guy to break a contract just signed without any resonable reason.

Murray_17 · Post #1694 » by **Murray_17** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:20 pm

downtownpie wrote:Do you think Embiid will let this drag on? I doubt it.

Morey really needs to get a deal done with the Kings and end this drama. You don't always win every deal. Some you break even.

I doubt ownership and the front office would be acting like this without getting Joel approval first.

Joel and Morey seem to be pretty close and it's highly probable this was brought up in the negotiations Joel had with the team for his extension.

DCasey91 · Post #1695 » by **DCasey91** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:21 pm

Stanford wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
GutUNC wrote:
What Pelicans deal are you referring to?

Naw, Sato, Hart picks

Just NAW is fine

Don’t you need salary filler?

thenbaman · Post #1696 » by **thenbaman** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:23 pm

Go the four years and let him rot without pay,can't wait for his LA house to go up for sale,maybe klutch will buy it.

Post #1697 » by **zimpy27** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:24 pm

Tomjas wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
downtownpie wrote:

Do you think Embiid will let this drag on? I doubt it.

Morey really needs to get a deal done with the Kings and end this drama. You don't always win every deal. Some you break even.

What is Morey meant to say? We want him gone ASAP.

Morey is going to try keep his position of strength. This is effectively a gridlock until trade deadline.

First it was draft night then end of preseason then December 15 & now the deadline

Daryl has no plan other than hoping someone asks out

It was those deadlines but the offers didn't improve. So the final deadline is effectively next offseason IMO (maybe trying to work an SnT). Beal, LaVine, Ayton are all SnT options in the offseason.

But trade deadline is a more pressing point were a team to get dsperate this season and trade for Simmons.

CJ had a killer first game, if he plays well maybe Morey just takes him. That would suck IMO.

I honestly don' think Simmons cares about missing a year where he can chill and play COD. He effectively did that in his first year.

Post #1698 » by **Stanford** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:24 pm

DCasey91 wrote:
Stanford wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
Naw, Sato, Hart picks

Just NAW is fine

Don’t you need salary filler?

I mean they don't need to add picks.

I'm only semi joking.

Post #1699 » by **Sixerscan** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:26 pm

FireMorey wrote:
Murray_17 wrote:
FireMorey wrote:He could've had McCollum or Brogdon and Levert months ago. Didn't happen purely because of his massive ego.

He's not doing what's best for the team, he's doing what's best for him. As is Simmons. They're two peas in a pod, just on opposing sides of the aisle.

Now he's willing to let this saga continue for 4 years just because he refuses to take the L. Tillman Fertitta is smiling right now knowing he no longer has to deal with this guy.

Simmons is the last chip we have.

Why would you just made your last trade for CJ or a package of Brogodn and Levert? it doesn't make sense. Let see what's the real best offer we can get before doing anything.

I don't get why you're so mad, you don't even watch games

I don't get angry about sports.

What if the last best offer is worse than the one you could have gotten? Waiting is all well and good, but it's only smart if logic says his value will rise over time. The most likely scenario was his value will depreciate. He should've seen it, but he was blinded by trying to get the W instead of cashing out before the stock plummets to zero.

It's doesn't matter if the offers go down if the current offer isn't good enough to make the team a contender.

If you disagree with that line of thinking, fine, but that's the line of thinking. Not that the mediocre offers are going to get slightly better over the next few months.

Post #1700 » by **Sixerscan** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:27 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
What is Morey meant to say? We want him gone ASAP.

Morey is going to try keep his position of strength. This is effectively a gridlock until trade deadline.

First it was draft night then end of preseason then December 15 & now the deadline

Daryl has no plan other than hoping someone asks out

It was those deadlines but the offers didn't improve. So the final deadline is effectively next offseason IMO (maybe trying to work an SnT). Beal, LaVine, Ayton are all SnT options in the offseason.

But trade deadline is a more pressing point were a team to get dsperate this season and trade for Simmons.

CJ had a killer first game, if he plays well maybe Morey just takes him. That would suck IMO.

I honestly don' think Simmons cares about missing a year where he can chill and play COD. He effectively did that in his first year.

Got paid though. Clearly not getting paid is enough for him to fly across the country.