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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1681 » by 76ciology » Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:38 am

Morey is dealt with a bad hand.
I know Morey wants to play a high variance game with a bad hand.

And for me, that means trading for a package of picks and pick swaps or try to be patient and be lucky to end up for a guy like dame or a top tier star.

No in betweens.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1682 » by Samson » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:18 pm

NYSixersFan wrote:The more I think about it, I don't think Simmons gets traded until the summer.

This is reminding me of Lindros.


I hated how that entire situation played out. I'm a huge Flyers fan (probably my favorite overall sports team if you take Penn State out of the mix... and I was a Flyers fan long before I went to Penn State.) ... and I loved Lindros and obviously loved Bobby Clarke for his history.

First we almost traded Lindros for Primeau but Clarke was convinced to give Lindros another chance. So instead we trade my main man Rod Brind'Amour for Primeau. Very hard to consider that trade because Brind'Amour did a lot for the Flyers, and nobody could question his heart or toughness ... but all Primeau did was come in and give his heart and soul. 2004 Playoffs were one of the most superhuman hockey demonstrations I've ever seen.

But then we finally get rid of Lindros. We apparently had *multiple* handshake deals with Toronto and Bobby Clarke wanted to sort of screw Lindros and put the screws to Toronto and kept changing the deal. I remember the deal (and I just confirmed it by googling up some old articles) that Clarke agreed to take C Nik Antropov (who was both a big-time Center prospect and literally BIG, he would look down on Lindros himself) D Danny Markov (who Clarke coveted and would wind up giving a lot away for down the road) and a 1st Round Pick. This was supposed to be a done deal. Then Clarke reneged and demanded big-time D prospect Tomáš Kaberle (who was the super-smooth Euro Defenseman we never had) ... TOR hit the roof. Then Clarke tried to change Markov for Kaberle and another first round pick or some stuff like that and TOR said to go screw yourself.

So instead we ship him to the Rangers for the worst trade package ever.... C Jan Hlaváč (who played less than half a year for us...) , D Kim Johnsson (who actually did OK for us but he wasn't Eric mf'ing Lindros), and the big-name prospect Pavel Brendl who was one of the biggest busts of all time.


But in defense of Lindros, he is polar opposite than Ben Simmons. Lindros played his heart and soul out for the city of Philadelphia and he let his parents make some headlines he should not have but it was a combination of the collapsed lung situation and my main man Keith Jones forcing him to go to the hospital instead of getting on a plane (which would have killed him... and I still have my Keith Jones Jersey hanging in the closet ...[next to Lindros & LeClair lol]) ... and Lindros getting totally headhunted all the time. (Everyone says he doesn't keep his head up. I can agree to an extent but Stevens and Kasparitis etc. just totally headhunted him. It's one thing to inflict pain on someone to cause them HURT... i did that on the wrestling mat all the time. It's something else entirely to seek to INJURE someone, especially their head.)

Simmons is just a punk biatch. Rant over. Let's Go Flyers. Maybe we can bring Brind'Amour home to coach us.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1683 » by mjkvol » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:08 pm

Samson wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:The more I think about it, I don't think Simmons gets traded until the summer.

This is reminding me of Lindros.


I hated how that entire situation played out. I'm a huge Flyers fan (probably my favorite overall sports team if you take Penn State out of the mix... and I was a Flyers fan long before I went to Penn State.) ... and I loved Lindros and obviously loved Bobby Clarke for his history.

First we almost traded Lindros for Primeau but Clarke was convinced to give Lindros another chance. So instead we trade my main man Rod Brind'Amour for Primeau. Very hard to consider that trade because Brind'Amour did a lot for the Flyers, and nobody could question his heart or toughness ... but all Primeau did was come in and give his heart and soul. 2004 Playoffs were one of the most superhuman hockey demonstrations I've ever seen.

But then we finally get rid of Lindros. We apparently had *multiple* handshake deals with Toronto and Bobby Clarke wanted to sort of screw Lindros and put the screws to Toronto and kept changing the deal. I remember the deal (and I just confirmed it by googling up some old articles) that Clarke agreed to take C Nik Antropov (who was both a big-time Center prospect and literally BIG, he would look down on Lindros himself) D Danny Markov (who Clarke coveted and would wind up giving a lot away for down the road) and a 1st Round Pick. This was supposed to be a done deal. Then Clarke reneged and demanded big-time D prospect Tomáš Kaberle (who was the super-smooth Euro Defenseman we never had) ... TOR hit the roof. Then Clarke tried to change Markov for Kaberle and another first round pick or some stuff like that and TOR said to go screw yourself.

So instead we ship him to the Rangers for the worst trade package ever.... C Jan Hlaváč (who played less than half a year for us...) , D Kim Johnsson (who actually did OK for us but he wasn't Eric mf'ing Lindros), and the big-name prospect Pavel Brendl who was one of the biggest busts of all time.


But in defense of Lindros, he is polar opposite than Ben Simmons. Lindros played his heart and soul out for the city of Philadelphia and he let his parents make some headlines he should not have but it was a combination of the collapsed lung situation and my main man Keith Jones forcing him to go to the hospital instead of getting on a plane (which would have killed him... and I still have my Keith Jones Jersey hanging in the closet ...[next to Lindros & LeClair lol]) ... and Lindros getting totally headhunted all the time. (Everyone says he doesn't keep his head up. I can agree to an extent but Stevens and Kasparitis etc. just totally headhunted him. It's one thing to inflict pain on someone to cause them HURT... i did that on the wrestling mat all the time. It's something else entirely to seek to INJURE someone, especially their head.)

Simmons is just a punk biatch. Rant over. Let's Go Flyers. Maybe we can bring Brind'Amour home to coach us.


I go back to the '70's Stanley Cup Flyers teams, and Rod Brind'Amour is one of my all time favorites. Good call on Primeau and the 2004 playoffs, just a remarkable performance. And you're dead on - no possible way to compare Lindros to Simmons, guy left it all on the ice. Keith Jones - awesome.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1684 » by Tomjas » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:19 pm

Samson wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:The more I think about it, I don't think Simmons gets traded until the summer.

This is reminding me of Lindros.


I hated how that entire situation played out. I'm a huge Flyers fan (probably my favorite overall sports team if you take Penn State out of the mix... and I was a Flyers fan long before I went to Penn State.) ... and I loved Lindros and obviously loved Bobby Clarke for his history.

First we almost traded Lindros for Primeau but Clarke was convinced to give Lindros another chance. So instead we trade my main man Rod Brind'Amour for Primeau. Very hard to consider that trade because Brind'Amour did a lot for the Flyers, and nobody could question his heart or toughness ... but all Primeau did was come in and give his heart and soul. 2004 Playoffs were one of the most superhuman hockey demonstrations I've ever seen.

But then we finally get rid of Lindros. We apparently had *multiple* handshake deals with Toronto and Bobby Clarke wanted to sort of screw Lindros and put the screws to Toronto and kept changing the deal. I remember the deal (and I just confirmed it by googling up some old articles) that Clarke agreed to take C Nik Antropov (who was both a big-time Center prospect and literally BIG, he would look down on Lindros himself) D Danny Markov (who Clarke coveted and would wind up giving a lot away for down the road) and a 1st Round Pick. This was supposed to be a done deal. Then Clarke reneged and demanded big-time D prospect Tomáš Kaberle (who was the super-smooth Euro Defenseman we never had) ... TOR hit the roof. Then Clarke tried to change Markov for Kaberle and another first round pick or some stuff like that and TOR said to go screw yourself.

So instead we ship him to the Rangers for the worst trade package ever.... C Jan Hlaváč (who played less than half a year for us...) , D Kim Johnsson (who actually did OK for us but he wasn't Eric mf'ing Lindros), and the big-name prospect Pavel Brendl who was one of the biggest busts of all time.


But in defense of Lindros, he is polar opposite than Ben Simmons. Lindros played his heart and soul out for the city of Philadelphia and he let his parents make some headlines he should not have but it was a combination of the collapsed lung situation and my main man Keith Jones forcing him to go to the hospital instead of getting on a plane (which would have killed him... and I still have my Keith Jones Jersey hanging in the closet ...[next to Lindros & LeClair lol]) ... and Lindros getting totally headhunted all the time. (Everyone says he doesn't keep his head up. I can agree to an extent but Stevens and Kasparitis etc. just totally headhunted him. It's one thing to inflict pain on someone to cause them HURT... i did that on the wrestling mat all the time. It's something else entirely to seek to INJURE someone, especially their head.)

Simmons is just a punk biatch. Rant over. Let's Go Flyers. Maybe we can bring Brind'Amour home to coach us.


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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1685 » by NYSixersFan » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:25 pm

Samson wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:The more I think about it, I don't think Simmons gets traded until the summer.

This is reminding me of Lindros.


I hated how that entire situation played out. I'm a huge Flyers fan (probably my favorite overall sports team if you take Penn State out of the mix... and I was a Flyers fan long before I went to Penn State.) ... and I loved Lindros and obviously loved Bobby Clarke for his history.

First we almost traded Lindros for Primeau but Clarke was convinced to give Lindros another chance. So instead we trade my main man Rod Brind'Amour for Primeau. Very hard to consider that trade because Brind'Amour did a lot for the Flyers, and nobody could question his heart or toughness ... but all Primeau did was come in and give his heart and soul. 2004 Playoffs were one of the most superhuman hockey demonstrations I've ever seen.

But then we finally get rid of Lindros. We apparently had *multiple* handshake deals with Toronto and Bobby Clarke wanted to sort of screw Lindros and put the screws to Toronto and kept changing the deal. I remember the deal (and I just confirmed it by googling up some old articles) that Clarke agreed to take C Nik Antropov (who was both a big-time Center prospect and literally BIG, he would look down on Lindros himself) D Danny Markov (who Clarke coveted and would wind up giving a lot away for down the road) and a 1st Round Pick. This was supposed to be a done deal. Then Clarke reneged and demanded big-time D prospect Tomáš Kaberle (who was the super-smooth Euro Defenseman we never had) ... TOR hit the roof. Then Clarke tried to change Markov for Kaberle and another first round pick or some stuff like that and TOR said to go screw yourself.

So instead we ship him to the Rangers for the worst trade package ever.... C Jan Hlaváč (who played less than half a year for us...) , D Kim Johnsson (who actually did OK for us but he wasn't Eric mf'ing Lindros), and the big-name prospect Pavel Brendl who was one of the biggest busts of all time.


But in defense of Lindros, he is polar opposite than Ben Simmons. Lindros played his heart and soul out for the city of Philadelphia and he let his parents make some headlines he should not have but it was a combination of the collapsed lung situation and my main man Keith Jones forcing him to go to the hospital instead of getting on a plane (which would have killed him... and I still have my Keith Jones Jersey hanging in the closet ...[next to Lindros & LeClair lol]) ... and Lindros getting totally headhunted all the time. (Everyone says he doesn't keep his head up. I can agree to an extent but Stevens and Kasparitis etc. just totally headhunted him. It's one thing to inflict pain on someone to cause them HURT... i did that on the wrestling mat all the time. It's something else entirely to seek to INJURE someone, especially their head.)

Simmons is just a punk biatch. Rant over. Let's Go Flyers. Maybe we can bring Brind'Amour home to coach us.


I'm not comparing them as players or people. They both wanted out and refused to play. Lindros sat out the entire year. I have a feeling that's what's going to happen with Ben.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1686 » by Samson » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:35 pm

mjkvol wrote:
I go back to the '70's Stanley Cup Flyers teams, and Rod Brind'Amour is one of my all time favorites. Good call on Primeau and the 2004 playoffs, just a remarkable performance. And you're dead on - no possible way to compare Lindros to Simmons, guy left it all on the ice. Keith Jones - awesome.


Couldn't have said it better, thank you very very much sir.

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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1687 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:44 pm

76ciology wrote:Morey is dealt with a bad hand.
I know Morey wants to play a high variance game with a bad hand.

And for me, that means trading for a package of picks and pick swaps or try to be patient and be lucky to end up for a guy like dame or a top tier star.

No in betweens.


I don't agree with trading him for a package of picks and swaps unless it's part of a 3 team trade. At that point you are still better off holding onto ben rather than playing the stock market game with picks.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1688 » by Tomjas » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:47 pm

Samson wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
I go back to the '70's Stanley Cup Flyers teams, and Rod Brind'Amour is one of my all time favorites. Good call on Primeau and the 2004 playoffs, just a remarkable performance. And you're dead on - no possible way to compare Lindros to Simmons, guy left it all on the ice. Keith Jones - awesome.


Couldn't have said it better, thank you very very much sir.

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So basically you’re an idiot



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You realize, the joke's on you, right bro? Have you taken my advice yet? Cooked a long meal or gone to the mall to walk around a little or went outside and dug a hole? You'll feel better.


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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1689 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:54 pm

You are basically just trolling at this point. Blocked
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1690 » by youngcrev » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:05 pm

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Madd Squabbles wrote:
76ciology wrote:I think Mavs is showcasing Porzingis. Mavs and Doncic don’t like Porzingis.


Where did you hear that? Can you post a link, please?


Just google it and read between the lines. For instance.

Then there are questions about the chemistry between Doncic and Porzingis. The Mavs' franchise cornerstones admittedly aren't friends, a distant dynamic that team owner Mark Cuban has compared to the early stages of the partnership between Dirk Nowitzki and Jason Terry, which ultimately produced two NBA Finals appearances and a championship.

But Porzingis has been frustrated, often feeling more like an afterthought than a co-star as Doncic dominates the ball and the spotlight, sources told ESPN. Porzingis frequently made thinly veiled references during his postgame media availabilities, such as saying the "ball actually moved tonight" after high-scoring performances or stating that the offense didn't involve him on low-scoring nights


https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/mavericks-kristaps-porzingis-frustrated-next-to-luka-doncic-but-trade-interest-is-minimal-per-reports/amp/

Mchmahon (very reliable person) also reported Porz wanted a trade during the offseason.

I dont think Porz want to play this style with Doncic and Doncic’s absence could allow Mavs to showcase Porz.

They’re not gonna broadcast to everyone they hate Porz to hurt his value. But you can just follow the breadcrumbs.

Porz doesnt want to play Doncic’s heavy PnR style (“ball actually moved tonight”) thus he wanted Carlisle gone. Porz is getting it this season while I think it lead to some decline to Doncic’s game compared to last season.

Porz may want to play on our dribble drive system where the ball can keep moving and then we can take advantage of mismatches on either Biid or Porz as “go to guys” when our dribble drive gets stalled.

If you can get Dame for Ben or Tobi, do it over Porz. But I wouldnt mind trading Tobi or Ben for Porz if Porz is the best offer out there


Dribble drive system? You just mean Maxey?
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1691 » by Tomjas » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:07 pm

Nope

Was just about the first poster here to predict that Simmons would never play for us again

Have never defended him

HOWEVER, when idiots think that we will somehow improve by playing scrubs in his place then GOOD FKN LUCK

We suck right now and you will be happier when you come to realise that it will be the case until upgrades are inbound

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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1692 » by the_process » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:39 pm

This has been my issue with the waiting for a star to fall plan... why are you wasting time being mediocre now? If you want to wait for Lillard or Beal... fine. But let's dump Harris, move Green and Curry and Thybulle and get assets, assets that can be used to retool next year around Jo and your "star" you get for Ben.

And if you couldn't talk Jo into taking another year off? Then you probably should have pivoted to another strategy.

But maybe something falls in Morey's lap, or someone caves, or maybe his plan works eventually.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1693 » by Mik317 » Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:44 pm

You trade him for more roleplayers and hope that makes up for the flaws ala Hot Korklord and Niang from the early great start did or it doesn't and thats the final move you had.

Or

You wait it out, get the "top 25" guy and the team is back on track...or that guy never comes available and you basically wasted the whole season as a treadmill team at best.

IDK **** isn't easy either way. I probably would have been done a deal honestly but that doesn't mean its the right choice.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1694 » by BullyKing » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:15 pm

Tomjas wrote:
Samson wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:The more I think about it, I don't think Simmons gets traded until the summer.

This is reminding me of Lindros.


I hated how that entire situation played out. I'm a huge Flyers fan (probably my favorite overall sports team if you take Penn State out of the mix... and I was a Flyers fan long before I went to Penn State.) ... and I loved Lindros and obviously loved Bobby Clarke for his history.

First we almost traded Lindros for Primeau but Clarke was convinced to give Lindros another chance. So instead we trade my main man Rod Brind'Amour for Primeau. Very hard to consider that trade because Brind'Amour did a lot for the Flyers, and nobody could question his heart or toughness ... but all Primeau did was come in and give his heart and soul. 2004 Playoffs were one of the most superhuman hockey demonstrations I've ever seen.

But then we finally get rid of Lindros. We apparently had *multiple* handshake deals with Toronto and Bobby Clarke wanted to sort of screw Lindros and put the screws to Toronto and kept changing the deal. I remember the deal (and I just confirmed it by googling up some old articles) that Clarke agreed to take C Nik Antropov (who was both a big-time Center prospect and literally BIG, he would look down on Lindros himself) D Danny Markov (who Clarke coveted and would wind up giving a lot away for down the road) and a 1st Round Pick. This was supposed to be a done deal. Then Clarke reneged and demanded big-time D prospect Tomáš Kaberle (who was the super-smooth Euro Defenseman we never had) ... TOR hit the roof. Then Clarke tried to change Markov for Kaberle and another first round pick or some stuff like that and TOR said to go screw yourself.

So instead we ship him to the Rangers for the worst trade package ever.... C Jan Hlaváč (who played less than half a year for us...) , D Kim Johnsson (who actually did OK for us but he wasn't Eric mf'ing Lindros), and the big-name prospect Pavel Brendl who was one of the biggest busts of all time.


But in defense of Lindros, he is polar opposite than Ben Simmons. Lindros played his heart and soul out for the city of Philadelphia and he let his parents make some headlines he should not have but it was a combination of the collapsed lung situation and my main man Keith Jones forcing him to go to the hospital instead of getting on a plane (which would have killed him... and I still have my Keith Jones Jersey hanging in the closet ...[next to Lindros & LeClair lol]) ... and Lindros getting totally headhunted all the time. (Everyone says he doesn't keep his head up. I can agree to an extent but Stevens and Kasparitis etc. just totally headhunted him. It's one thing to inflict pain on someone to cause them HURT... i did that on the wrestling mat all the time. It's something else entirely to seek to INJURE someone, especially their head.)

Simmons is just a punk biatch. Rant over. Let's Go Flyers. Maybe we can bring Brind'Amour home to coach us.


So basically you’re an idiot


And that's a timeout for you. Your inability to rationally discuss this topic has grown extremely tired.
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Post#1695 » by 76ciology » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:18 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:
76ciology wrote:Morey is dealt with a bad hand.
I know Morey wants to play a high variance game with a bad hand.

And for me, that means trading for a package of picks and pick swaps or try to be patient and be lucky to end up for a guy like dame or a top tier star.

No in betweens.


I don't agree with trading him for a package of picks and swaps unless it's part of a 3 team trade. At that point you are still better off holding onto ben rather than playing the stock market game with picks.


Holding unto ben and waiting to be lucky is the same as trading ben for picks and picks swap, in regards with those two package are high variance play that gets you a chance for a top tier player.

What does not get you that chance is trading ben for a sideways move like Dejounte Murray.

Package of picks or young players along with Tobi’s contract next season could also get you a top tier player.

Thats just how i look at it. And this is kind of also explains why Ben hasnt been traded yet for a Brogdon type package.

Sixers fan just want to trade Ben and end the pain. Morey has a longer view, he wants the Sixers to have a chance to be the top team in the league. And the only way to play that game with Ben as your main trade chip is taking high risks move like picks or holding and waiting to be lucky.
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Post#1696 » by 76ciology » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:18 pm

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Tomjas wrote:
Samson wrote:
I hated how that entire situation played out. I'm a huge Flyers fan (probably my favorite overall sports team if you take Penn State out of the mix... and I was a Flyers fan long before I went to Penn State.) ... and I loved Lindros and obviously loved Bobby Clarke for his history.

First we almost traded Lindros for Primeau but Clarke was convinced to give Lindros another chance. So instead we trade my main man Rod Brind'Amour for Primeau. Very hard to consider that trade because Brind'Amour did a lot for the Flyers, and nobody could question his heart or toughness ... but all Primeau did was come in and give his heart and soul. 2004 Playoffs were one of the most superhuman hockey demonstrations I've ever seen.

But then we finally get rid of Lindros. We apparently had *multiple* handshake deals with Toronto and Bobby Clarke wanted to sort of screw Lindros and put the screws to Toronto and kept changing the deal. I remember the deal (and I just confirmed it by googling up some old articles) that Clarke agreed to take C Nik Antropov (who was both a big-time Center prospect and literally BIG, he would look down on Lindros himself) D Danny Markov (who Clarke coveted and would wind up giving a lot away for down the road) and a 1st Round Pick. This was supposed to be a done deal. Then Clarke reneged and demanded big-time D prospect Tomáš Kaberle (who was the super-smooth Euro Defenseman we never had) ... TOR hit the roof. Then Clarke tried to change Markov for Kaberle and another first round pick or some stuff like that and TOR said to go screw yourself.

So instead we ship him to the Rangers for the worst trade package ever.... C Jan Hlaváč (who played less than half a year for us...) , D Kim Johnsson (who actually did OK for us but he wasn't Eric mf'ing Lindros), and the big-name prospect Pavel Brendl who was one of the biggest busts of all time.


But in defense of Lindros, he is polar opposite than Ben Simmons. Lindros played his heart and soul out for the city of Philadelphia and he let his parents make some headlines he should not have but it was a combination of the collapsed lung situation and my main man Keith Jones forcing him to go to the hospital instead of getting on a plane (which would have killed him... and I still have my Keith Jones Jersey hanging in the closet ...[next to Lindros & LeClair lol]) ... and Lindros getting totally headhunted all the time. (Everyone says he doesn't keep his head up. I can agree to an extent but Stevens and Kasparitis etc. just totally headhunted him. It's one thing to inflict pain on someone to cause them HURT... i did that on the wrestling mat all the time. It's something else entirely to seek to INJURE someone, especially their head.)

Simmons is just a punk biatch. Rant over. Let's Go Flyers. Maybe we can bring Brind'Amour home to coach us.


So basically you’re an idiot


And that's a timeout for you. Your inability to rationally discuss this topic has grown extremely tired.


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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1697 » by Skates » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:19 pm

If someone like the Pellies really made a knockout offer of draft picks (and at least enough role players to match salary), you could fill some minor holes this year and have a currency in draft picks that could be very rich depending on the number of picks, swaps and protection, if any. Just to match salary without including Ingram they would have to send us Devonte Graham (4 years at 411 mil), Josh Hart (3 years at 412 mil) and Satoransky with $10 mil expiring. If Morey can get an overpay in picks, he might well take it as a very fungible set of assets for future deals, grabbing guys in drafts and lots of smaller, more movable salaries for deal flexibility. It is in some ways a better package of assets to have then Simmons just sitting there getting older and possibly losing value to a small market team as his time under contract diminishes.
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Post#1698 » by Negrodamus » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:57 pm

Fox with another huge game destroying Beal and the Wiz. Perhaps his slow start was the anomaly.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1699 » by kuclas » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:18 pm

Depending how many games embiid missed. Sixers will end up anywhere between 4-8 seed. The east is packed in the middle.

It’s pretty much a lost season. I don’t see us going far unless embiid is healthy and going super nova.

Ben likely sits out entire season. I’m ok with that.

Re evaluate when draft slots are known after lottery picks are known.
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Re: Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho 

Post#1700 » by mjkvol » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:55 pm

BullyKing wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
Samson wrote:
I hated how that entire situation played out. I'm a huge Flyers fan (probably my favorite overall sports team if you take Penn State out of the mix... and I was a Flyers fan long before I went to Penn State.) ... and I loved Lindros and obviously loved Bobby Clarke for his history.

First we almost traded Lindros for Primeau but Clarke was convinced to give Lindros another chance. So instead we trade my main man Rod Brind'Amour for Primeau. Very hard to consider that trade because Brind'Amour did a lot for the Flyers, and nobody could question his heart or toughness ... but all Primeau did was come in and give his heart and soul. 2004 Playoffs were one of the most superhuman hockey demonstrations I've ever seen.

But then we finally get rid of Lindros. We apparently had *multiple* handshake deals with Toronto and Bobby Clarke wanted to sort of screw Lindros and put the screws to Toronto and kept changing the deal. I remember the deal (and I just confirmed it by googling up some old articles) that Clarke agreed to take C Nik Antropov (who was both a big-time Center prospect and literally BIG, he would look down on Lindros himself) D Danny Markov (who Clarke coveted and would wind up giving a lot away for down the road) and a 1st Round Pick. This was supposed to be a done deal. Then Clarke reneged and demanded big-time D prospect Tomáš Kaberle (who was the super-smooth Euro Defenseman we never had) ... TOR hit the roof. Then Clarke tried to change Markov for Kaberle and another first round pick or some stuff like that and TOR said to go screw yourself.

So instead we ship him to the Rangers for the worst trade package ever.... C Jan Hlaváč (who played less than half a year for us...) , D Kim Johnsson (who actually did OK for us but he wasn't Eric mf'ing Lindros), and the big-name prospect Pavel Brendl who was one of the biggest busts of all time.


But in defense of Lindros, he is polar opposite than Ben Simmons. Lindros played his heart and soul out for the city of Philadelphia and he let his parents make some headlines he should not have but it was a combination of the collapsed lung situation and my main man Keith Jones forcing him to go to the hospital instead of getting on a plane (which would have killed him... and I still have my Keith Jones Jersey hanging in the closet ...[next to Lindros & LeClair lol]) ... and Lindros getting totally headhunted all the time. (Everyone says he doesn't keep his head up. I can agree to an extent but Stevens and Kasparitis etc. just totally headhunted him. It's one thing to inflict pain on someone to cause them HURT... i did that on the wrestling mat all the time. It's something else entirely to seek to INJURE someone, especially their head.)

Simmons is just a punk biatch. Rant over. Let's Go Flyers. Maybe we can bring Brind'Amour home to coach us.


So basically you’re an idiot


And that's a timeout for you. Your inability to rationally discuss this topic has grown extremely tired.


Thank you, yet again.
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