Welcome James Harden!

[mjkvol]

It won’t be easier for Harden against Celtics defence. Sad ending for him.

Get lost.

[M2J]

One question I have is if Harden has significant Achilles irritation I'll call it... Or any pain at all. Why doesn't he wear high top shoes? They help with that stuff.

I know they have tape and everything for support, but just saying

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

In post game he talked about sacrifices whether it's his money or his role. He said when he used to drop 40-50 points people say you can't win like that..but now that hes dropping 20pts and 11assists people say he's not the old Harden anymore.

IMO he's being clever . He's always been a good playmaker even in college. He became an elite scorer when he went to Houston. I dont think people were saying he couldn't win in his prime because he was an explosive scorer , they were saying it because of how ball dominant he is. He's still pretty ball dominant but he is no longer a guy that can give you 40/50 when needed thats pretty obvious . Its ok but acting like it's a sacrifice instead of a drop off in ability is deceptive.

Yeah I picked up on that too. He's the only person on the planet that actually believes that bs. He simply cannot score like that anymore, otherwise he would. He's also known for postseason struggles dating back to his OKC days. James Harden is still a very good player. He's become a great point guard, he still gives you 20/10 but the days of him scoring at will on any defense are over.

[rocketsfan100]

It won’t be easier for Harden against Celtics defence. Sad ending for him.

Go seee hiss scoring average against the Celtics this year.

[rocketsfan100]

In post game he talked about sacrifices whether it's his money or his role. He said when he used to drop 40-50 points people say you can't win like that..but now that hes dropping 20pts and 11assists people say he's not the old Harden anymore.

IMO he's being clever . He's always been a good playmaker even in college. He became an elite scorer when he went to Houston. I dont think people were saying he couldn't win in his prime because he was an explosive scorer , they were saying it because of how ball dominant he is. He's still pretty ball dominant but he is no longer a guy that can give you 40/50 when needed thats pretty obvious . Its ok but acting like it's a sacrifice instead of a drop off in ability is deceptive.

Yeah I picked up on that too. He's the only person on the planet that actually believes that bs. He simply cannot score like that anymore, otherwise he would. He's also known for postseason struggles dating back to his OKC days. James Harden is still a very good player. He's become a great point guard, he still gives you 20/10 but the days of him scoring at will on any defense are over.

Right now outside of Jokic there isn’t a better playmaker in the nba.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

In post game he talked about sacrifices whether it's his money or his role. He said when he used to drop 40-50 points people say you can't win like that..but now that hes dropping 20pts and 11assists people say he's not the old Harden anymore.

IMO he's being clever . He's always been a good playmaker even in college. He became an elite scorer when he went to Houston. I dont think people were saying he couldn't win in his prime because he was an explosive scorer , they were saying it because of how ball dominant he is. He's still pretty ball dominant but he is no longer a guy that can give you 40/50 when needed thats pretty obvious . Its ok but acting like it's a sacrifice instead of a drop off in ability is deceptive.

Yeah I picked up on that too. He's the only person on the planet that actually believes that bs. He simply cannot score like that anymore, otherwise he would. He's also known for postseason struggles dating back to his OKC days. James Harden is still a very good player. He's become a great point guard, he still gives you 20/10 but the days of him scoring at will on any defense are over.

Right now outside of Jokic there isn’t a better playmaker in the nba.

I don't disagree with that at all.

[HardenGoat]

He did sacrifice a max to fortify the roster with defense and depth. I think there’s a lot of concern about him finishing drives but what he is saying is still actually true. To have a legit shot deep in the playoffs you have to have everyone making plays whether it’s on defense, rebounding, or stepping up when a star is getting game planned against. This team is showing that. Last game it was Reed and Tobias. The one prior it was Maxey. The first one Harden had a great overall game. Even in the regular season you saw them get stops and gut out wins. I think other fans are seeing that this year and have legit concerns we might be better than they want to admit. Harden is going to contribute as much as he can for the team to win. But in the end the team will win because they are a championship level team. I think we will beat the Celtics.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

He did sacrifice a max to fortify the roster with defense and depth. I think there’s a lot of concern about him finishing drives but what he is saying is still actually true. To have a legit shot deep in the playoffs you have to have everyone making plays whether it’s on defense, rebounding, or stepping up when a star is getting game planned against. This team is showing that. Last game it was Reed and Tobias. The one prior it was Maxey. Even in the regular season you saw them get stops and gut out wins. I think other fans are seeing that this year and have legit concerns we might be better than they want to admit. Harden is going to contribute as much as he can for the team to win. But in the end the team will win because they are a championship level team. I think we will beat the Celtics.

With a healthy Embiid, yes we can beat the Celtics. Without Embiid I don't know that it's possible. I do think James Harden is one of the most intelligent basketball players in the NBA. He's right up there with LeBron in terms of basketball IQ. He would have to fully control the series for us to have a chance at beating Boston. We need Embiid at full strength to beat them.

[HardenGoat]

He did sacrifice a max to fortify the roster with defense and depth. I think there’s a lot of concern about him finishing drives but what he is saying is still actually true. To have a legit shot deep in the playoffs you have to have everyone making plays whether it’s on defense, rebounding, or stepping up when a star is getting game planned against. This team is showing that. Last game it was Reed and Tobias. The one prior it was Maxey. Even in the regular season you saw them get stops and gut out wins. I think other fans are seeing that this year and have legit concerns we might be better than they want to admit. Harden is going to contribute as much as he can for the team to win. But in the end the team will win because they are a championship level team. I think we will beat the Celtics.

With a healthy Embiid, yes we can beat the Celtics. Without Embiid I don't know that it's possible. I do think James Harden is one of the most intelligent basketball players in the NBA. He's right up there with LeBron in terms of basketball IQ. He would have to fully control the series for us to have a chance at beating Boston. We need Embiid at full strength to beat them.

That’s true. They need Tatum fully healthy as well. Maybe even Brown. That’s why there is always luck involved, but these fans seem to think we have no chance even fully healthy because Harden is missing bunnies at the rim or not getting any foul calls. I hope we are fully healthy, it will be a hell of a match up if so.

[Bum Adebayo]

Well of course we have chances, but they are very slim, the likelyhood of Celtics winning the series is like 90% with a healthy Embiid. It's simply a bad matchup + we are mentally scared of them.

[Ksny13]

Harden best fits the role of CP3 the last few years with Phoenix. Elite aging playmaker who is the driver of the car but is best served as a 3rd scoring option. The problem is he is option 2 until Maxey somehow develops the ability to break his man down individually. There is not a better playmaker in the league though with Harden.

[rocketsfan100]

I think he is going back to Houston. Just a gut feeling

[sodmoraes]

I think he is going back to Houston. Just a gut feeling

I´m having that feeling too. Now with Udoka, they will be a menace to Houston´s strip clubs

[Negrodamus]

Does that mean we're going to get crazy ass Kevin Porter back in a trade?

[ProcessDoctor]

He'll be 34 in August and has logged a ton of minutes/his Achilles seems like it's about to explode. I'd be scared to offer him anything more than 2-year max, or a 3-year with a team option.

The happiest ending in this relationship (and for our future) is if we win a championship and then S&T him to Houston. Harris's contract expires after next season, and maybe we can find ourselves players in free agency of summer 2024 and beyond. Or we use Harris's expiring + Maxey to go after another top-10 player.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Harden fits great here. Omg so glad y'all not our gm.

[youngcrev]

He'll be 34 in August and has logged a ton of minutes/his Achilles seems like it's about to explode. I'd be scared to offer him anything more than 2-year max, or a 3-year with a team option.

The happiest ending in this relationship (and for our future) is if we win a championship and then S&T him to Houston. Harris's contract expires after next season, and maybe we can find ourselves players in free agency of summer 2024 and beyond. Or we use Harris's expiring + Maxey to go after another top-10 player.

Maxey and Harris isn't getting you a top-10 player.

I don't love the idea of giving Harden a big long-term deal, but letting him walk does more damage to this team than having an albatross a few years from now. They don't have the assets to replace him.

[rocketsfan100]

Here is what I think will happen. Harden goes back to Houston. Then Morey will offer maxey and Harris to Portland for dame dolla

[LeonJordanJr24]

He'll be 34 in August and has logged a ton of minutes/his Achilles seems like it's about to explode. I'd be scared to offer him anything more than 2-year max, or a 3-year with a team option.

The happiest ending in this relationship (and for our future) is if we win a championship and then S&T him to Houston. Harris's contract expires after next season, and maybe we can find ourselves players in free agency of summer 2024 and beyond. Or we use Harris's expiring + Maxey to go after another top-10 player.

Maxey and Harris isn't getting you a top-10 player.

I don't love the idea of giving Harden a big long-term deal, but letting him walk does more damage to this team than having an albatross a few years from now. They don't have the assets to replace him.

Maxey has the gravity to play with Embiid and Harden being the arbotross contract instead of Tobias is probably a good thing. Harden fits with maxey and embiid who I expect to be the core for a while.


Just unload Tobias,shake,Korkmaz and niang and get more athletic and wiry on defense. Thee end.

[ProcessDoctor]

He'll be 34 in August and has logged a ton of minutes/his Achilles seems like it's about to explode. I'd be scared to offer him anything more than 2-year max, or a 3-year with a team option.

The happiest ending in this relationship (and for our future) is if we win a championship and then S&T him to Houston. Harris's contract expires after next season, and maybe we can find ourselves players in free agency of summer 2024 and beyond. Or we use Harris's expiring + Maxey to go after another top-10 player.

Maxey and Harris isn't getting you a top-10 player.

I don't love the idea of giving Harden a big long-term deal, but letting him walk does more damage to this team than having an albatross a few years from now. They don't have the assets to replace him.

Just let Maxey grow into the lead guard role then. It’s just an unforced error to sign Harden to a big deal knowing he maybe has 1-2 good years left.