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Re: Around the League: 2023-24 Season 

Post#1701 » by 76ciology » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:48 am

Jailblazers7 wrote:I’d keep Brown over Tatum. Brown is the better defender, leader, and shot maker. You just need to make sure he has a PG to run the offense because outside of playmaking I’d rather have Brown.


Are you more comfortable Maxey defending Jaylen Brown or Maxey defending Jayson Tatum on single coverage?
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Post#1702 » by Wilfried » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:35 am

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Zumramania wrote:I am afraid Tatum & Brown are better than we want to admit. Just the two of them with an average rest of the roster could get you to an ECF. But Boston always equips them with good to great rest of the roster, they are just a well-run organization. Besides, Jrue Holiday and Horford are the only older players on that roster, Derrick White and Porzingis are under 30. Boston will be a real menace to face in the future as well.


They are very good, but the reality is they cannot afford White to an extention next summer.
Than Horford is also gone, Jrue (not the healthiest either) is 35 or more ...
KP is not the healthiest either

Their dynasty is not set in stone to me ... living on hope ;-)


Unfortunately, if you google it, it is widely reported that White is likely to resign with the Celtics...apparently they are going to offer him a max contract and for him that amounts to $127 million over four years. I don't even know how can they afford so many big contracts? I guess they will be paying a large tax.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5569914/2024/06/18/boston-celtics-salary-cap-nba-free-agency/
Their weakness may be, as this article points out:
"Their system depends heavily on two rare centers, one of whom is very old and the other of whom is very injury-prone."

But compare that to us, where our main player is a center who is also constantly injured during playoffs...


Could be ... and the fact that Tatum and Brown are there, means they will be conference finals contenders for many years to come.
Adding White to them is big. But I don't see how they can pay THAT much money. An owner who likes to pay a lot of taxes than, they don't come around that often ;-)

All the rest (Horford, Porzingis, Holiday) will be replaced the coming seasons, step by step. And they have a smart GM, so he will find the hidden gems for the right price (like White).

And they will have to face the new dynasty from OKC the next seasons it seems. Can be fun
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Post#1703 » by Jailblazers7 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:36 am

76ciology wrote:
Jailblazers7 wrote:I’d keep Brown over Tatum. Brown is the better defender, leader, and shot maker. You just need to make sure he has a PG to run the offense because outside of playmaking I’d rather have Brown.


Are you more comfortable Maxey defending Jaylen Brown or Maxey defending Jayson Tatum on single coverage?


Probably Tatum because he’s more likely to settle for a step back. My answer would’ve been Brown a year or two ago but his handle is tighter now so that’s not exploitable.
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Post#1704 » by Gant » Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:08 pm

Wilfried wrote:
Zumramania wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
They are very good, but the reality is they cannot afford White to an extention next summer.
Than Horford is also gone, Jrue (not the healthiest either) is 35 or more ...
KP is not the healthiest either

Their dynasty is not set in stone to me ... living on hope ;-)


Unfortunately, if you google it, it is widely reported that White is likely to resign with the Celtics...apparently they are going to offer him a max contract and for him that amounts to $127 million over four years. I don't even know how can they afford so many big contracts? I guess they will be paying a large tax.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5569914/2024/06/18/boston-celtics-salary-cap-nba-free-agency/
Their weakness may be, as this article points out:
"Their system depends heavily on two rare centers, one of whom is very old and the other of whom is very injury-prone."

But compare that to us, where our main player is a center who is also constantly injured during playoffs...


Could be ... and the fact that Tatum and Brown are there, means they will be conference finals contenders for many years to come.
Adding White to them is big. But I don't see how they can pay THAT much money. An owner who likes to pay a lot of taxes than, they don't come around that often ;-)

All the rest (Horford, Porzingis, Holiday) will be replaced the coming seasons, step by step. And they have a smart GM, so he will find the hidden gems for the right price (like White).

And they will have to face the new dynasty from OKC the next seasons it seems. Can be fun


Wyc Grousbeck's been a good owner. At some point, the second apron restrictions will be an issue though. An article from about 10 days ago:

‘We will be paid in parades.’ For Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck, it has never been about making money.
Over 21 years of ownership, Grousbeck and his partners have adopted a long-term, spend-to-win strategy that might just be paying off for years to come.

Grousbeck set the tone with his partners early on. The Celtics would not be run like a family business. His pitch: You’ve made your money elsewhere. We won’t lose your shirt, but ownership is about hoisting Banner 17 and many more to come. They would need to spend to win.

“I don’t want your lunch money or your college fund. You’re all very well-to-do people. I want a small percentage of your net worth. You put it into the Celtics and alongside me, I will run it. But I will treat you all like partners,” he told them. “But this is not about a percentage return or anything like that. This is about winning championships . . . so we will be paid in enjoyment. We will be paid in parades.”


“Many new owners come in and try to make a splash, and they’ll immediately go out and pay a lot of money for old players that make the team a little better, but it’s really hard to win the championship, unless you have a mix of old and young players,” said Pagliuca. “It’s just like a business. When you try to do like a get-rich-quick scheme, it doesn’t work. So you’ve got to draft, you’ve got to have training, you got to grind it out.”

“We are losing money,” Grousbeck said. “We are unconcerned by that.”


So how fun is it to be the Celtics owner?

“It’s even more fun than you think it is,” said Grousbeck with a wide smile.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/06/11/business/celtics-owner-wyc-grousbeck-money-nba-finals/?s_campaign
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Re: Around the League: 2023-24 Season 

Post#1705 » by Jailblazers7 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:28 pm

Are the Celtics really losing money? I find that really hard to believe.
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Post#1706 » by Gant » Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:35 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Are the Celtics really losing money? I find that really hard to believe.


I think they are. Wyc Grousbeck has always been an honest if often circumspect source of information, though he's been more candid this year. Who knows though.

Like all NBA franchises they've skyrocketed in value, but that's locked up. The Celtics ownership group is obviously very well off, but they're not Steve Ballmer or Mike Bloomberg obscenely rich, so being willing to spend means something.
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Post#1707 » by Stanford » Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:31 pm

Sports team ownership is all about flexing on your rich idiot friends and asset appreciation.
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Post#1708 » by mjkvol » Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:10 pm

Stanford wrote:Sports team ownership is all about flexing on your rich idiot friends and asset appreciation.


No doubt. The ultimate status symbol in today's world.
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Post#1709 » by youngcrev » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:54 am

Says Wyc Grousbeck, rich antagonist from an early 2000s comedy.
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Post#1710 » by the_process » Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:46 pm

God, that's a lot of money for Scottie Barnes.
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Post#1711 » by MoeGreene » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:15 am

Who are the Sixers having guard Mikal now that he's a Knick?
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Post#1712 » by zaz102 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:18 am

MoeGreene wrote:Who are the Sixers having guard Mikal now that he's a Knick?
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Post#1713 » by MoeGreene » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:20 am

Ah, the old mysterious dude defense.

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Post#1714 » by 76ciology » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:00 am

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Post#1715 » by 76ciology » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:11 pm

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Post#1716 » by GoSixersBro » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:31 pm

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Post#1719 » by zaz102 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:21 pm

If I had a nickel for every time there was a rumor about a teammate sleeping with the mom a player named LeBron James, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
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Post#1720 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:49 pm

zaz102 wrote:If I had a nickel for every time there was a rumor about a teammate sleeping with the mom a player named LeBron James, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.


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