2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft

Jailblazers7 · Post #1701 » by **Jailblazers7** » Fri May 16, 2025 3:40 pm

Ok now that Tari Eason got a name drop I’m excited by a trade down lol. I’m so easily influenced it’s crazy.

But seriously, if we trade down to 10 and get Eason + CMB I would be hyped. That would really elevated the potential defensive ceiling, toughness, and rebounding of our team.

I doubt the Rockets do it, their logjam is at guard where I think they need to bail on Jalen Green so they can start to prepare for a Reed Shepard & Amen Thompson future.

Da Doctor · Post #1702 » by **Da Doctor** » Fri May 16, 2025 3:42 pm

Stanford wrote:The Ace Bailey option in the poll should be renamed "don't overthink it."

The anti-Ace people have been far more obnoxious/arrogant in this thread than anyone advocating for him.

the_process · Post #1703 » by **the_process** » Fri May 16, 2025 3:43 pm

Ownership was never firing Morey and Nurse with three years left on their deals.

Babbling heads babble.

Morey has enough pieces to put together a playoff team even while forgetting Joel Embiid is still employed by this franchise.

Negrodamus · Post #1704 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri May 16, 2025 3:48 pm

Da Doctor wrote:
Stanford wrote:The Ace Bailey option in the poll should be renamed "don't overthink it."
The anti-Ace people have been far more obnoxious/arrogant in this thread than anyone advocating for him.

I'm getting a rush of nostalgia with this post from when I was like one of 3 people here questioning taking Turner/Simmons/Fultz and the majority completely dragging me as a hater.

Black Mage · Post #1705 » by **Black Mage** » Fri May 16, 2025 3:53 pm

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76ciology · Post #1706 » by **76ciology** » Fri May 16, 2025 3:54 pm

Possible trade down options using combination of Drummond, Oubre, Gordon and Council’s contract and the third overall pick:

Cam Johnson and 8th
Herb Jones and 7th
Avdija and 11th
Marcus Smart and 6th
Coby White and 12th (then ship to rox for Jabari Smith)

Arsenal · Post #1707 » by **Arsenal** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:00 pm

If we trade down below #5 then I want Essengue. He's the biggest home run swing in that area.

Post #1708 » by **Stanford** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:00 pm

Da Doctor wrote:
Stanford wrote:The Ace Bailey option in the poll should be renamed "don't overthink it."
The anti-Ace people have been far more obnoxious/arrogant in this thread than anyone advocating for him.

They're overthinking it, my man!

76ciology · Post #1709 » by **76ciology** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:07 pm

If Demin can shoot, you need to take a chance on him

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mksp · Post #1710 » by **mksp** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:15 pm

Stanford wrote:
Da Doctor wrote:
Stanford wrote:The Ace Bailey option in the poll should be renamed "don't overthink it."
The anti-Ace people have been far more obnoxious/arrogant in this thread than anyone advocating for him.

They're overthinking it, my man!

It's not overthinking it to avoid Ace when his stats are so preposterously bad.

Negrodamus · Post #1711 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:15 pm

Demin was so atrocious this year and I kept giving him chances every month. Nothing improved.

Negrodamus · Post #1712 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:22 pm

3 years from now: “no one could have predicted Ace wouldn’t have panned out! If you say you could, then you’re lying!”

Mik317 · Post #1713 » by **Mik317** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:23 pm

76ciology wrote:Possible trade down options using combination of Drummond, Oubre, Gordon and Council’s contract and the third overall pick:

Cam Johnson and 8th
Herb Jones and 7th
Avdija and 11th
Marcus Smart and 6th
Coby White and 12th (then ship to rox for Jabari Smith)

none of these names make me feel good about trading back that far imo.

if there is a drop off after 2, then IMO there is another drop off after 6.

5 is the furthest back i'd go as that would make the decision between the guys we are arguing about now made for us more than likely.

You got a gift of getting a top 3 pick and trading back to my monkey brain feels like giving that up...and again the above names do nothing for me.

Mik317 · Post #1714 » by **Mik317** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:25 pm

Negrodamus wrote:3 years from now: “no one could have predicted Ace wouldn’t have panned out! If you say you could, then you’re lying!”

nah more than likely it will be the worst version of this

"nah you see INSERT COACH HERE is just holding him back...next year is deffo when he will take the leap forsure....I mean look at this COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLAYER he got better around this time so there".

Young Wings get a lot of leeway. People STILL believe in Cam Reddish based off of that one vid of Ant and Maxey saying he is HIM lol.

Post #1715 » by **Stanford** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:39 pm

I tend to agree, we should end up with one of Tre, VJ, or Ace (with Morey's blessing). But what do I know? (nothing)

76ciology · Post #1716 » by **76ciology** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:41 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Demin was so atrocious this year and I kept giving him chances every month. Nothing improved.

Dont overthink it

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Covi_Marsh · Post #1717 » by **Covi_Marsh** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:42 pm

Essentially your saying we don’t have the development coaches to have Bailey reach his ceiling but they are capable of giving VJ a little bit of creation that prep, national team and 20 yrs of play couldn’t or develop Tre to be a solid defender, or finish at the rim. They are all flawed projects who also will probably be 3&D wing, 3&D guard and 6th man unless development coaches develop.

The outrage of one prospect not developing but another will is wild. Scouts are looking at physical attributes and flashes of what the prospect could be. If you shown flashes of a great nba quality then their job is to bring that out of you consistently. That involves coaching and interviewing prospects to understand their mental. So I feel everyone is torn on taking a raw prospect and developing or taking a higher floor prospect to avoid bust potential.

76ciology · Post #1718 » by **76ciology** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:46 pm

Anthony Bennett has better numbers than Ace Bailey.

If Ace Bailey turns out to be a star, I think synergy and basketball reference both have to shutdown their websites

Negrodamus · Post #1719 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri May 16, 2025 4:59 pm

Covi_Marsh wrote:Essentially your saying we don’t have the development coaches to have Bailey reach his ceiling but they are capable of giving VJ a little bit of creation that prep, national team and 20 yrs of play couldn’t or develop Tre to be a solid defender, or finish at the rim. They are all flawed projects who also will probably be 3&D wing, 3&D guard and 6th man unless development coaches develop.

The outrage of one prospect not developing but another will is wild. Scouts are looking at physical attributes and flashes of what the prospect could be. If you shown flashes of a great nba quality then their job is to bring that out of you consistently. That involves coaching and interviewing prospects to understand their mental. So I feel everyone is torn on taking a raw prospect and developing or taking a higher floor prospect to avoid bust potential.

Great, then you'll have no problem drafting Egor Demin or Will Riley at 3, the other two 6'10 players with guard skills, right? We have the development coaches to fill the holes in their games, so why should they be treated any differently than Ace Bailey?

If it's age, then Noa Essengue should be the pick since he's the same measurements but is even younger than Ace.

Covi_Marsh · Post #1720 » by **Covi_Marsh** » Fri May 16, 2025 5:02 pm

76ciology wrote:Anthony Bennett has better numbers than Ace Bailey.

If Ace Bailey turns out to be a star, I think synergy and basketball reference both have to shutdown their websites

Bennett had a high ceiling? He was supposedly a safe high floor pick. Should have went with the high ceiling raw guy, Gianni’s lol. That draft was weaker then the Evan Turner draft tho. Plus it’s partially Bennett’s fault. Shoulder injuries made him fat and lazy. Lost his face up game and never improved on it either. Partly could be Cavs development too. Don’t recall them making any prospect better. Kyrie and Bron were phenoms day 1.

Who do you want us to take at #3?