2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

[Covi_Marsh]

Fox
Harper
Castle
Wemby
Porzingis

Or does this signal they might be interested in a shooting wing over Harper?

[Covi_Marsh]

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Herb Jones on the move?
Wizards moved a PG, do they have a deal in place to draft Fears? Or Harper?

[eyeatoma]

I also have an MBA from an elite university and I’d take VJ so it appears we’re at an impasse.

Well I have an MBA from a university none of you have ever heard of and I don't know anything about any of these players.

And I don't even have an MBA and suck at math so there. Clearly the pick will be Malauch.

[eyeatoma]

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This is dumb

[Covi_Marsh]

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[Black Mage]

A little over 24 hours and the feeling I keep getting is that we aren't keeping #3. Morey is a data and intel guy. He had a chance to interview and workout players to gather intel on them for future moves like free agency or trades. Instead, he's treated this process much more like he did with Maxey/McCain where he avoided meetings with guys who Morey was targeting.

I feel like either Morey hopes to trade up with Spurs on draft night and if that fails; he's pivoting and trading down with his target players being guys we've had no connection with in rumors.

[Iverson Armband]

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This actually makes me think we’re seriously considering him. It makes absolutely no sense to not bring him in other than to throw teams off.

[Sixerfever216]

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This actually makes me think we’re seriously considering him. It makes absolutely no sense to not bring him in other than to throw teams off.

Pick 3 there's no need to throw teams off haha everybody knows the first 2 picks

[Black Mage]

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This actually makes me think we’re seriously considering him. It makes absolutely no sense to not bring him in other than to throw teams off.

Pick 3 there's no need to throw teams off haha everybody knows the first 2 picks

Unless you aren't planning to stay at 3 so you can't let folks see you checking out guys that wouldn't be considered at 3.

[FlyingArrow]

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This actually makes me think we’re seriously considering him. It makes absolutely no sense to not bring him in other than to throw teams off.

Pick 3 there's no need to throw teams off haha everybody knows the first 2 picks

There is if the goal is to trade down and get him anyway.

[Redemption76]

Will we have a separate Draft Day thread? I’ve sworn off Twitter/X but did like how there would be tweets before the selection was announced…

[Arsenal]

ACE opens the door to Philly! He'll be happy to hoop on the Sixers!!!

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[Covi_Marsh]

ACE opens the door to Philly! He'll be happy to hoop on the Sixers!!!

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Lol that was his answer when they asked him any question about not working out.

[Arsenal]

Who will he defend? Is his "floor" really that high? This NBA Draft reddit post shows the biggest reason why we must say NO to the Kon Artist:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/1ljgyj0/who_will_kon_knueppel_defend_successfully_at_the/

Who will Kon Knueppel defend successfully at the NBA level?

Help me out with this, especially if you’re high on Kon.

I keep seeing Kon as a top 5 consensus pick. Vecenie, Givony, Tankathon etc all have him going 4th or 5th in their latest mocks, with the phrase “high floor” following. Some have even said “highest floor in the draft”.

But how exactly can a player have a high floor when there are such significant defensive/athletic questions surrounding him?

At Duke his defense was passable, but Knueppel had a perfect role and supporting cast - Sion James for POA, all time level help defense from Flagg, Maliq Brown, and Maluach (each of these 4 players got a vote for ACC DPOY) and switchable defenders constantly covering for each other. He is strong and competes, but at the same time, he guarded the opposing team’s worst perimeter player every single game and provided minimal defensive playmaking off the ball.

The issue is the NBA is a much more spaced environment with much better athletes. You’re one of 3 roles as a good perimeter defender: On-Ball POA, Screen Chaser, or Helper, and he doesn’t fit into any of these well.

Due to his middling athleticism and slow lateral movement (worst lane agility time at the entire combine of players under 6’10”, as well as worst 3 quarter floor sprint time of any guard) this is hard to project for him in the NBA.

Kon doesn’t project as a POA defender or screen chaser for obvious reasons, he didn’t do it at all in college. Imagining him tasked with staying in front of Ja Morant or even Immanuel Quickley is laughable. Additionally, asking him to chase Curry and Lillard around screens is a tough sell due to lacking agility and speed issues.

Anything that requires him guarding in space will be a big challenge and step up from college.

As a helper there are other concerns. He only has a 6’6” wingspan and is not a defensive playmaker whatsoever, averaging only 1.2 steals+blocks combined per 36. He’s not going to be able to be contesting things at the rim or switching onto big forwards as he doesn’t have the length or explosiveness to contest their shots.

Looking at potential NBA fits in Charlotte (next to LaMelo Ball), Utah (next to Keyonte George), Washington (next to Jordan Poole), those are all teams that need to hide their PGs on low usage offensive players. I’m having a hard time figuring out who Kon would actually guard at the next level if placed on one of those teams.

Can he really be viewed as such a “high floor” prospect with this many defensive questions? What am I missing here?

[the_process]

Draft day starts in just over 7 hrs.

[Covi_Marsh]

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He mentions he think he looks good in blue.

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[mjkvol]

I'm curious what they do with VanVleet this summer. If they feel good about Reed, then he needs to hit the road.

Well, they just got Durant and clearly think they can win. FVV helps more with that and he's an expiring anyway. Sheppard will get more minutes now with Jalen Green gone.

The problem is reports are they are declining their team option on him in hopes for a long term deal. Dumb move.

I believe the point of declining the option and extending him is to get him at a lower number in exchange for additional years. They obviously value what he brings, but are preparing for upcoming rookie extensions of Sengun and Jabari Smith.

[Negrodamus]

Who will he defend? Is his "floor" really that high? This NBA Draft reddit post shows the biggest reason why we must say NO to the Kon Artist:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/1ljgyj0/who_will_kon_knueppel_defend_successfully_at_the/

Who will Kon Knueppel defend successfully at the NBA level?

Help me out with this, especially if you’re high on Kon.

I keep seeing Kon as a top 5 consensus pick. Vecenie, Givony, Tankathon etc all have him going 4th or 5th in their latest mocks, with the phrase “high floor” following. Some have even said “highest floor in the draft”.

But how exactly can a player have a high floor when there are such significant defensive/athletic questions surrounding him?

At Duke his defense was passable, but Knueppel had a perfect role and supporting cast - Sion James for POA, all time level help defense from Flagg, Maliq Brown, and Maluach (each of these 4 players got a vote for ACC DPOY) and switchable defenders constantly covering for each other. He is strong and competes, but at the same time, he guarded the opposing team’s worst perimeter player every single game and provided minimal defensive playmaking off the ball.

The issue is the NBA is a much more spaced environment with much better athletes. You’re one of 3 roles as a good perimeter defender: On-Ball POA, Screen Chaser, or Helper, and he doesn’t fit into any of these well.

Due to his middling athleticism and slow lateral movement (worst lane agility time at the entire combine of players under 6’10”, as well as worst 3 quarter floor sprint time of any guard) this is hard to project for him in the NBA.

Kon doesn’t project as a POA defender or screen chaser for obvious reasons, he didn’t do it at all in college. Imagining him tasked with staying in front of Ja Morant or even Immanuel Quickley is laughable. Additionally, asking him to chase Curry and Lillard around screens is a tough sell due to lacking agility and speed issues.

Anything that requires him guarding in space will be a big challenge and step up from college.

As a helper there are other concerns. He only has a 6’6” wingspan and is not a defensive playmaker whatsoever, averaging only 1.2 steals+blocks combined per 36. He’s not going to be able to be contesting things at the rim or switching onto big forwards as he doesn’t have the length or explosiveness to contest their shots.

Looking at potential NBA fits in Charlotte (next to LaMelo Ball), Utah (next to Keyonte George), Washington (next to Jordan Poole), those are all teams that need to hide their PGs on low usage offensive players. I’m having a hard time figuring out who Kon would actually guard at the next level if placed on one of those teams.

Can he really be viewed as such a “high floor” prospect with this many defensive questions? What am I missing here?

I think you mean Kon Artest

[Mik317]

teams just love bailing out the Celtics

[Black Mage]

teams just love bailing out the Celtics

Funny how that always happens for Boston and LA.