2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread III

[SelfishPlayer]

Trading Dario for #10 in this draft is a risk not worth taking. Dario was a better prospect than anyone projected to be available and his future looks too bright to absorb the risk of drafting a bust just because they play a different position or may have an even brighter future in some eyes...

[JMac1]

Funny you should ask. A lot of guys are talking him up, but at number 3?!? That's too high, plus you have Sauce and Bender to give some time there.

I love Alan Williams. I think he's a perfect back-up C to have. But Bender is wayyyyyy too weak on the glass to ever be a viable option at the 5, IMO.

If you're more comfortable sticking to consensus big boards, by all means, stick with the usual suspects. I just personally feel that Phoenix should be choosing between Isaac and Collins at #4.

Don't get me wrong Bender is definitely not ready to play the 5 right now.... We are looking 4-5 years down the road when Booker is 24-25 to seriously think about competing and when GS and Cleveland is old.

[Ericb5]

I think Dario is going to be a good player and I love his intangibles, but I have no problem making an early call on him not being a core piece and flipping him for an asset that I feel can lead me to getting a prospect that I do feel great about.

I like Dario a lot, and don't want to trade him, but he certainly isn't untouchable.

Not sure who I would want at 10 though that I would prefer. It would have to be someone like Dennis smith or Malik monk that slipped. I wouldn't take another big man at that spot.


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[sunsbg]

With Alex Len (RFA), Tyson Chandler, and Alan Williams, would you have interest in Jahlil Okafor? What are you guys planning on doing at the five, pay Alex?

I think the FO will pay Alex only a reasonable contract, otherwise try to trade him. Chandler is old, Williams is nothing more than a reserve. There is not really a big interest in Okafor from the Suns fans, but trades involving Brendon Knight have been discussed. How do you think he will fit on the 76ers ? What about Knight + top 10 protected Miami pick next year for Jahlil ?

[KrazySixersD]

I want juwan evans late first or early 2nd.. dude is going to be so good... he is so similar to chris paul its scary

They are like the same size, same style, even look alike. Both are pick and roll gods

Im really confused why evans isnt a lottery pick.. if chris paul isnt too small then neither is evans

[LloydFree]

With Alex Len (RFA), Tyson Chandler, and Alan Williams, would you have interest in Jahlil Okafor? What are you guys planning on doing at the five, pay Alex?

I think the FO will pay Alex only a reasonable contract, otherwise try to trade him. Chandler is old, Williams is nothing more than a reserve. There is not really a big interest in Okafor from the Suns fans, but trades involving Brendon Knight have been discussed. How do you think he will fit on the 76ers ? What about Knight + top 10 protected Miami pick next year for Jahlil ?

I wouldn't want Knights remaining contract, but if you want Okafor and the #39 pick, I'd do that.

[agiaco]

Trading Dario for #10 in this draft is a risk not worth taking. Dario was a better prospect than anyone projected to be available and his future looks too bright to absorb the risk of drafting a bust just because they play a different position or may have an even brighter future in some eyes...

I agree. Some can argue how his usage was very high at the end of the year and it inflated his stats, but after just one season he looks like exactly the type of guy we can bring off the bench and run a second unit similar to Simmons as a big man facilitator. His skill set is so vast and I love his fire and Philly toughness. I'd only consider the swap if Monk fell to 10 but that's not happening either. Afraid Dario's worth to the squad is already undervalued.

[Negrodamus]

Watch on YouTube

These weakness videos always leave a bad taste in my mouth about the player, however, the issues here don't seem like a big deal. His problems as a slasher are correctable. I'm more impressed with the ease he got to the rim. His explosiveness off the dribble is elite. His passing is a slight concern, but he wouldn't be brought here as a true point guard.

[Kobblehead]

Given his physical strength, athleticism and extraordinary length, Donovan Mitchell's 55.6% finishing rate at the rim seems kinda odd. I would have sworn he'd be a 65% finisher or above without checking.

[cksdayoff]

i want fultz

[JojoSlimbiid]

i want fultz

After the Celtics win tonight no chance he drops. Thomas is a mega liability...this pick just get's them to realize it sooner.

[76ciology]

(Bledsoe and #4) for (#3, TJ Maxx and Justin Anderson)

Jackson is the perfect fit for the Suns, a wing that actually plays defense unlike their other prospects and someone who passes instead of chucking shots. If we can acquire Bledsoe by giving up minimal assets like Justin Anderson, I'd do it.
Bledsoe has a great contract for two more years, which prevents us from signing an aging PG for 35 million dollars a year. We can draft either a PF in Isaac or Tatum, or a PG who develops behind Bledsoe (he can play some off-ball as well).

Agree.

I find them moving two spots down messed them up. Now they're looking at PFs and PGs. They have a logjam at those spots already. Already has Chris at PF and BK/Bledsoe at PGs. Tatum will be redundant with Warren.

[76ciology]

i want fultz

I'm scared of his God given motor. Rarely a player becomes great with an average motor. But who knows, Harden is an MVP candidate and he certainly has tools to be special.

[Foshan]

(Bledsoe and #4) for (#3, TJ Maxx and Justin Anderson)

Jackson is the perfect fit for the Suns, a wing that actually plays defense unlike their other prospects and someone who passes instead of chucking shots. If we can acquire Bledsoe by giving up minimal assets like Justin Anderson, I'd do it.
Bledsoe has a great contract for two more years, which prevents us from signing an aging PG for 35 million dollars a year. We can draft either a PF in Isaac or Tatum, or a PG who develops behind Bledsoe (he can play some off-ball as well).

Agree.

I find them moving two spots down messed them up. Now they're looking at PFs and PGs. They have a logjam at those spots already. Already has Chris at PF and BK/Bledsoe at PGs. Tatum will be redundant with Warren.

I'm not usually a big bledsoe fan, i think his injuries will cause him to continue to miss huge amounts of time (season on season off type). But in this type of deal, I think 3/okafor for 4/bledsoe would make a lot of sense for both teams.

[Hook_Em]

Less than 5% chance it's Isaac at #3 right?

[JMac1]

Jackson is the perfect fit for the Suns, a wing that actually plays defense unlike their other prospects and someone who passes instead of chucking shots. If we can acquire Bledsoe by giving up minimal assets like Justin Anderson, I'd do it.
Bledsoe has a great contract for two more years, which prevents us from signing an aging PG for 35 million dollars a year. We can draft either a PF in Isaac or Tatum, or a PG who develops behind Bledsoe (he can play some off-ball as well).

Agree.

I find them moving two spots down messed them up. Now they're looking at PFs and PGs. They have a logjam at those spots already. Already has Chris at PF and BK/Bledsoe at PGs. Tatum will be redundant with Warren.

I'm not usually a big bledsoe fan, i think his injuries will cause him to continue to miss huge amounts of time (season on season off type). But in this type of deal, I think 3/okafor for 4/bledsoe would make a lot of sense for both teams.

Hmmmmm... Now you have piqued my interest. Let Len walk..... Okafor D is just so suspect. Bledsoe and Tatum/ Issac is better than Jackson and Okafor though, no? Still not a bad trade idea, actually a good one IMO. However, Issac/Tatum, Bender, Chriss is such athletic front court.

[LloydFree]

I'm having mixed emotions about the Celtics' victory. But I'm kinda glad they didn't get murdered again. I don't want Ainge getting so down on his roster that he does something way off the map that it impacts the 76ers. I think they will try hard to trade the pick, but hopefully, if they they keep the pick, they take Fultz.

[kriss73]

Please, someone can give a solid reason why Monk (reaching at #3) will be a better pros than Frank Jackson (late first/ high second round)?

Same age, FJ has better measures (height, wingspan), basically same stats in college.
Is Monk athletism so higher than Frrank's?
I mean: I prefer find a way to come back in the late first and grab Frank J than reaching at #3 for Monk.

[Kolkmania]

Please, someone can give a solid reason why Monk (reaching at #3) will be a better pros than Frank Jackson (late first/ high second round)?

Same age, FJ has better measures (height, wingspan), basically same stats in college.
Is Monk athletism so higher than Frrank's?
I mean: I prefer find a way to come back in the late first and grab Frank J than reaching at #3 for Monk.

I know their per 40 stats looks some sort of similar, but that's not fair at all. Shooting superior percentages on a much higher volume is more impressive.

Stats aside, Jackson was surrounded by shooters like Allen, Kennard and Tatum in comparison with Briscoe, Fox and Gabriel. Also the type of shots were different. Monk did it while running off screens, Jackson shot three's mostly standstill.

Both weren't impressive defensively this season to say the least.

[SelfishPlayer]

Every NBA championship team going back to the year 2000 have had an All Star guard, not a SF masquerading as a guard, and not a point forward with a combo guard. The Sixers have zero talent at guard.