2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2

[LloydFree]

I think Frank gets taken in the later part of the lottery, could change after workouts and such. Frank has an imposing figure, and once he fills out, he's gonna be a monster defensively.

... Or you could use a 2nd round pick and take Bruce Brown, and get everything that you are describing in a package, ready to go.

Does Bruce Brown last until the 2nd round? I think he gets taken in the 20s at the latest

If he comes out he shouldn't last until the 2nd round, but there is a lot of incompetence in NBA front Offices. The point is, Bruce Brown is better than Frank N and wasting a mid-level pick on him is crazy. You can get the same kind of talent any year, in the late 1st or 2nd round.

Forget where DX ranks these players. Pull up footage of Fran N., then pull up some footage of Bruce Brown and then judge who is the better prospect.

[Negrodamus]

I've seen so little of Frank N, but I've see overseas hype of a long, big PG before. Anyone remember George de Paula? 6'5 PG with a 7'0 wingspan. Seems like he has more shake and speed than Frank, but is not as good of a shooter. He's 20 years old and probably available in the draft. Is he really a worse prospect? He might actually be a PG while Frank is considered a SG by many on here.

[Unbreakable99]

Draft Express still has Josh Hart as a second rounder. Wow! If he did fall to the second round I would definitely get him. I can't see him falling to the second though. Josh Hart on the Sixers would be terrific. I love his game. Heady player. Very smart. Pretty athletic. Good work ethic. Can shoot. Can defend. I am missing why he's not in considering of a top 20 pick.

[the_process]

IT is legit. Boston is a contender now.

Depends on your definition of contender perhaps?

If I'm the Cavs or the Warriors, I'll run the 1-3 PnR all day if I ever face them in the play-offs

I think IT will be fine. People are hung up on his height. He's proven he's a legit baller. AI was 6'0 and went to the finals. IT has the right pieces around him. He has good defensive players. All he had to do is worry about offense. The Celtics are peaking at the right time.

I also have to disagree. We all saw firsthand how impossible it is to build around that type of player. The individual brilliance kills the team framework. IT is also 90/90 for PG's in DRPM.

Boston is trying to have their cake and eat it too; contend while rebuilding. Well, unless one of these two BKN picks hits, they won't be doing either. They are at best a 2nd round team IMO. The fact they may end up as the 1 seed (because CLE doesn't care) doesn't change the fact they are at a disadvantage in a 7 game set against both TOR and WSH.

[76ciology]

Any chance Steph Curry fever grows strong in the finals that he moves him up to third overall over Josh Jackson? Monk and Booker as poor man splash bros?

[PhilasFinest]

ive tended to think of Fultz as a Mcollum or even DeRozan type without actually watching much of him beyond early in the season.

after watching a mix of his season highlights i actually think he may end up a truly dominant scorer. though far less explosive than both he reminds me of kobe crossed w/ giannis (with way better shooting than both at this point)

i think ppl saying he plays too cool like jrue holiday are just deceived by his length. he uses long strides so well like giannis and can cover a lot of space forward and laterally with out putting on jets which allows him to have a crazy herky-jerky, change of pace game.

I think he should be playing pg tho not sg so not sure he fits here (not thnking wed get him in anyhting other than a draft day trade)

A better shooting Kobe crossed with Giannis squeezed into a 6'4" guard. Sounds about right

[PhilasFinest]

... Or you could use a 2nd round pick and take Bruce Brown, and get everything that you are describing in a package, ready to go.

Does Bruce Brown last until the 2nd round? I think he gets taken in the 20s at the latest

If he comes out he shouldn't last until the 2nd round, but there is a lot of incompetence in NBA front Offices. The point is, Bruce Brown is better than Frank N and wasting a mid-level pick on him is crazy. You can get the same kind of talent any year, in the late 1st or 2nd round.

Forget where DX ranks these players. Pull up footage of Fran N., then pull up some footage of Bruce Brown and then judge who is the better prospect.

Bruce Brown will be a solid NBA role player. I think he can be Wes Matthews like.

[PhilasFinest]

Draft Express still has Josh Hart as a second rounder. Wow! If he did fall to the second round I would definitely get him. I can't see him falling to the second though. Josh Hart on the Sixers would be terrific. I love his game. Heady player. Very smart. Pretty athletic. Good work ethic. Can shoot. Can defend. I am missing why he's not in considering of a top 20 pick.

There are a lot of incompetent NBA GM's out there. Many become enamored with the magic words of draft time.... "Potential" & "Upside". People often try to outsmart themselves to find hidden gems, and swing for the fences on athletic projects based on things like age,measurments and athleticism and not based on actual basketball ability.


Is Hart a sure thing? No, nobody is. Is Hart a future all star? No I doubt it....but I wouldn't be shocked to see him end up on the Spurs roster and develop into a Danny Green like SG. He has that type of skill set.

[Negrodamus]

Offense can easily cover up any deficiency at D, at the PG position. Best example? IT

Boston will never be a true contender while their no. 1 guard is IT.

IT is legit. Boston is a contender now.

For the record, I wasn't saying Michael Young is a point guard. I said that first bit because Young would be redundant if we took someone like Tatum.

[LloydFree]

ive tended to think of Fultz as a Mcollum or even DeRozan type without actually watching much of him beyond early in the season.

after watching a mix of his season highlights i actually think he may end up a truly dominant scorer. though far less explosive than both he reminds me of kobe crossed w/ giannis (with way better shooting than both at this point)

i think ppl saying he plays too cool like jrue holiday are just deceived by his length. he uses long strides so well like giannis and can cover a lot of space forward and laterally with out putting on jets which allows him to have a crazy herky-jerky, change of pace game.

I think he should be playing pg tho not sg so not sure he fits here (not thnking wed get him in anyhting other than a draft day trade)

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[Kobblehead]

So Harry Giles entered the draft...

[Mik317]

i mean he can;t risk getting hurt again. Go get those millions.

[Sixersftw]

Yeah someones about to waste of a draft pick, he just isn't the same guy after that 2nd injury. This draft is crazy. The probable number one pick is a shell of his former self and it's still an incredible draft.

I'm glad he is gonna get some money because that knee is suspect.

[Unbreakable99]

Yeah it's smart for Giles to come out. No need to risk blowing his knee out again. Come out while there's still intrigue that he could be a big time player. If he goes back and stinks again next year then it would be worse.

[smittybanton]

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[jaxsontend]

ive tended to think of Fultz as a Mcollum or even DeRozan type without actually watching much of him beyond early in the season.

after watching a mix of his season highlights i actually think he may end up a truly dominant scorer. though far less explosive than both he reminds me of kobe crossed w/ giannis (with way better shooting than both at this point)

i think ppl saying he plays too cool like jrue holiday are just deceived by his length. he uses long strides so well like giannis and can cover a lot of space forward and laterally with out putting on jets which allows him to have a crazy herky-jerky, change of pace game.

I think he should be playing pg tho not sg so not sure he fits here (not thnking wed get him in anyhting other than a draft day trade)

A better shooting Kobe crossed with Giannis squeezed into a 6'4" guard. Sounds about right

his length relative to size and striding ability as someone playing point guard reminds me more of giannis than any pg. he can get to rim from three point line with one dribble and glide for chasedown blocks when engaged.

he can work off ball and in pick and roll in a way kobe never necessarily did but his unapologetic turnaround/pullup game in iso reminds me more of kobe than rudy gay/derozan similar players with that similar skillset.

[jaxsontend]

if you actually think fultz can be a star, which some people do, who do you think his comps are? or just try to make fun of me

[shawn_hemp]

Draft Express still has Josh Hart as a second rounder. Wow! If he did fall to the second round I would definitely get him. I can't see him falling to the second though. Josh Hart on the Sixers would be terrific. I love his game. Heady player. Very smart. Pretty athletic. Good work ethic. Can shoot. Can defend. I am missing why he's not in considering of a top 20 pick.

I'm not very high on Josh Hart or Allonzo Trier. I get that they have decent all around games but they don't really do anything well enough to hang their hat on at the NBA level.

[shawn_hemp]

Fultz is going to be a turn style on defense in the NBA. Dude had 1 or 2 chase down blocks all year in blowout games and suddenly he has "all the tools to be a good defender"

I can see him being a Jamal Crawford type of player who moves around like Dwayne Wade with the ball.

hes not really a PG at all, and I can't remember him moving off the ball much in college. Probably because he always had the ball. But that's not going to happen if he's on this team

I would rather have Josh Jackson in the top 3 than Fultz, all day

[eagereyez]

A guy with a better AST%/TOV% than both Ball and Smith is "not really a PG at all."