The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III

XtremeDunkz · Post #1741 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:29 pm

76ciology wrote:Can anyone explain to me why the Raps defended him weirdly? They were staying close at him when they should be sagging off him?

Was it because he was more aggressive?

Exactly why I didnt mind him not taking a 3. They didnt give him any open looks that you would normally see.

Kobblehead · Post #1742 » by **Kobblehead** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:25 am

Probably want to keep their coverages vanilla in the regular season.

76ciology · Post #1743 » by **76ciology** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:43 am

I want you to notice one thing.

Whenever Ben is open when he can shoot it and passes up the ball, observe the defense.

1.) it allows the defense to get back to their man
2.) it leads to a lot of 1v1 with the clock about to run up

This also applies on how many times he passes up opportunities on transition.

I feel like Ben knows when his shots are dropping (Cavs game) and when he shoots like Josh Smith. And during those times he feels like he shoots like Josh Smith he tends to be passive. And in this situations, I hope he can let Tobi or JRich run more ball handling with him playing more like a big on offense.

Well either he thinks he’s having an offnight or its one of those games when he intentionally plays like this to show Biid that he needs to be alpha.

Eyeamok · Post #1744 » by **Eyeamok** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:17 am

Oh Ben. You display this new found aggressive attitude ..or maybe you displayed it before and I just wasn't watching... You turn the ball over more
But you are aggressive which is the type of player this team needs. then before my eyes you're back to being a in the lane passing up shot not even looking at the basket player...what happened? Oh Ben.

One thing I will give you credit for you're giving your teammates, for the most part, the ball where they like it which makes their lives easier. You've becone very very very good at that. But I'll be aggressive no I'll be non aggressive. Is just sad.

XtremeDunkz · Post #1745 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:20 am

Not only has Ben reverted back to his timid self, but now he is basically showing up his coach who publicly said he wanted him to keep playing like that. Seems very prickish.

Ukphillyfan76 · Post #1746 » by **Ukphillyfan76** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:42 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:Not only has Ben reverted back to his timid self, but now he is basically showing up his coach who publicly said he wanted him to keep playing like that. Seems very prickish.

Reluctantly agree. I’ve always been a big Ben fan but... we’ve all come to accept the lack of an outside jumper, but the lack of consistent aggression on offensive is now a massive concern. :cry:

ProcessDoctor · Post #1747 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:48 pm

Ben Simmons our highest ranked player by RPM (12th overall). Haters don't kill the messenger.

Dave Meltzer · Post #1748 » by **Dave Meltzer** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:55 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Ben Simmons our highest ranked player by RPM (12th overall). Haters don't kill the messenger.

Tobias Harris 9th overall defensively. Anyone expect that?

TTP · Post #1749 » by **TTP** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:58 pm

Process legend Christian Wood is killing it too. I always believed. Richaun Holmes as well.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #1750 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:42 am

The most confusing thing about Simmons is that it seems like he might be a good shooter on corner threes, the only threes he's decided to take this season have actually gone in and looked pretty good doing it. Why not just take a few more, the second it looks like he's a respectable shooter from three will change his entire game as guys have to close out hard on him and he could put the ball on the floor and go by them. It's not like he's hitting the corner of the backboard on the threes he takes, he's splashing them yet won't take more.

eagereyez · Post #1751 » by **eagereyez** » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:24 am

Dave Meltzer wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Ben Simmons our highest ranked player by RPM (12th overall). Haters don't kill the messenger.

Tobias Harris 9th overall defensively. Anyone expect that?

eagereyez wrote:
Predictions for this season:

Wins: 58
Standing: 2nd in East
Finish: ECF
Events: Harris improves defensively. Teams still leave Simmons wide-open in the playoffs. Embiid finishes top 3 in MVP.

Harris has good length and quickness so I thought he'd improve, especially since he's playing on a contender now - a lot of guys take it easy defensively when playing on bad/mediocre teams. That said, there's no way he improved that much. There is still a ton of noise in RPM this early in the season.

Kobblehead · Post #1752 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:57 pm

Tobias is playing KD defense this year. He still looks shakey on the ball, but he's way more engaged with the team defense. That's all people ever wanted out of him. Combine his scoring with good team defense and slightly more ball movement, and you have a really good player on your hands. Which is what we're seeing right now. Now all he needs is to get his three point shooting back to where it usually is and we have a legitimate allstar.

Eyeamok · Post #1753 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:33 am

Double

Eyeamok · Post #1754 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:35 am

Double

Eyeamok · Post #1755 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:40 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The most confusing thing about Simmons is that it seems like he might be a good shooter on corner threes, the only threes he's decided to take this season have actually gone in and looked pretty good doing it. Why not just take a few more, the second it looks like he's a respectable shooter from three will change his entire game as guys have to close out hard on him and he could put the ball on the floor and go by them. It's not like he's hitting the corner of the backboard on the threes he takes, he's splashing them yet won't take more.

So many good points. You know it might just be as simple as he doesn't like anyone telling him what to do. And he has gotten is this far by playing his way so he will continue to do so. He's only 23 and does not know what he doesn't know. He's self-awareness is probably very low. This is where good coach makes a big big difference.

Eyeamok · Post #1756 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:55 am

Eyeamok wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The most confusing thing about Simmons is that it seems like he might be a good shooter on corner threes, the only threes he's decided to take this season have actually gone in and looked pretty good doing it. Why not just take a few more, the second it looks like he's a respectable shooter from three will change his entire game as guys have to close out hard on him and he could put the ball on the floor and go by them. It's not like he's hitting the corner of the backboard on the threes he takes, he's splashing them yet won't take more.

So many good points. You know it might just be as simple as he doesn't like anyone telling him what to do. And he has gotten this far by playing his way so he will continue to do so. He's only 23 and does not know what he doesn't know. He's self-awareness is probably very low. This is where good coaching makes a big big difference.

Eyeamok · Post #1757 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:03 pm

Part of his problem is probably be lack of concentration. I mean he goes to the line and knocks down two big free throws near the end of the game. He's locked in he is focused. Then he plays good defense on walker to end the game. He might just feel lost on offense when it matters most.

If he can hit corner 3s run pa play or two to isolate him in the corner and let it rip. Tonight would be a good start.

76ciology · Post #1758 » by **76ciology** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:53 pm

Eyeamok wrote:Part of his problem is probably be lack of concentration. I mean he goes to the line and knocks down two big free throws near the end of the game. He's locked in he is focused. Then he plays good defense on walker to end the game. He might just feel lost on offense when it matters most.

If he can hit corner 3s run pa play or two to isolate him in the corner and let it rip. Tonight would be a good start.

Being a shooter is not natural at him. They say people have to wear different masks in different situation. If he needs to shoot, he has to change his usual mask.

If you notice he looks like a different player when he’s shooting the ball and when he opts to not shoot the ball.

whatisacenter · Post #1759 » by **whatisacenter** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:59 pm

Warriors fan coming in peace. Do any of you believe DLo would be a good fit with Embiid? I could see Ben fitting in well with Steph and Klay and wanted to see what you all think about DLo as you have seen more of his game while he was with the Nets.

Ukphillyfan76 · Post #1760 » by **Ukphillyfan76** » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:39 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Warriors fan coming in peace. Do any of you believe DLo would be a good fit with Embiid? I could see Ben fitting in well with Steph and Klay and wanted to see what you all think about DLo as you have seen more of his game while he was with the Nets.

Personally I like Dlo and what he did with BKN, decent in PnR / 36.1 3pt / PER 19.47? Combo guard, only concerns for me are fit and playing D...