Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason

Arsenal · Post #1741 » by **Arsenal** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:15 pm

stormi wrote:Hopefully someone else has a little bit more interest than us...

Who better could we get for the vet min? Possibly Jeff Teague, but that's it. So I'm good w/DJ.

Post #1742 » by **BullyKing** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:18 pm

I'd be pleasantly shocked if we could add someone as good as Augustin for the minimum.

stormi · Post #1743 » by **stormi** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:22 pm

Arsenal wrote:
stormi wrote:Hopefully someone else has a little bit more interest than us...

Who better could we get for the vet min? Possibly Jeff Teague, but that's it. So I'm good w/DJ.

PTSD from Neto. Done with the archetype of midget point guards that don't defend. But I'm expecting grown up Julian Newman to Philadelphia to be a formality at this point so whatever

eyeatoma · Post #1744 » by **eyeatoma** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:27 pm

stormi wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
stormi wrote:Hopefully someone else has a little bit more interest than us...

Who better could we get for the vet min? Possibly Jeff Teague, but that's it. So I'm good w/DJ.

PTSD from Neto. Done with the archetype of midget point guards that don't defend. But I'm expecting grown up Julian Newman to Philadelphia to be a formality at this point so whatever

DJ Agustin is very good. The Orlando Magic were also one of the best teams in the league at defense. He's not crappy like TJ or Neto. He is really good from three and is a decent facilitator. He's also had some explosive games once in a while. Definitely a good player at backup pg.

stormi · Post #1745 » by **stormi** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:40 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
stormi wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Who better could we get for the vet min? Possibly Jeff Teague, but that's it. So I'm good w/DJ.

PTSD from Neto. Done with the archetype of midget point guards that don't defend. But I'm expecting grown up Julian Newman to Philadelphia to be a formality at this point so whatever

DJ Agustin is very good. The Orlando Magic were also one of the best teams in the league at defense. He's not crappy like TJ or Neto. He is really good from three and is a decent facilitator. He's also had some explosive games once in a while. Definitely a good player at backup pg.

He was the worst defender on that roster that got consistent minutes by a pretty convincing margin. And even then his role was as an off the bench microwave. The defense was so good because of the ridiculous length and switchability of Isaac/Bamba/MCW (and to a lesser extent Birch/Iwundu/Ennis/Vuc/Fultz). He's not a bad player and a step above Neto, I'm just all for moving away from that build of player. I'd much rather target guys like Wright/Bradley/Wanamaker or one of the excess amounts of guards in New Orleans/San Antonio. Mills for a salary package & some minor draft compensation or Hill for something similar.

Arsenal · Post #1746 » by **Arsenal** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:44 pm

stormi wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
stormi wrote:
PTSD from Neto. Done with the archetype of midget point guards that don't defend. But I'm expecting grown up Julian Newman to Philadelphia to be a formality at this point so whatever

DJ Agustin is very good. The Orlando Magic were also one of the best teams in the league at defense. He's not crappy like TJ or Neto. He is really good from three and is a decent facilitator. He's also had some explosive games once in a while. Definitely a good player at backup pg.

He was the worst defender on that roster that got consistent minutes by a pretty concievable margin. And even then his role was as an off the bench microwave. The defense was so good because of the ridiculous length and switchability of Isaac/Bamba/MCW (and to a lesser extent Birch/Iwundu/Ennis/Vuc/Fultz). He's not a bad player and a step above Neto, I'm just moving away from that build of player that can't defend. I'd much rather target guys like Wright/Bradley/Wanamaker or one of the excess amounts of guards in New Orleans/San Antonio. Mills for a salary package & some minor draft compensation or Hill for something similar.

I mean, Patty Mills would be perfect. But he will cost. Not sure we're ready to pay that price. Same w/George Hill.

eyeatoma · Post #1747 » by **eyeatoma** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:45 pm

stormi wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
stormi wrote:
PTSD from Neto. Done with the archetype of midget point guards that don't defend. But I'm expecting grown up Julian Newman to Philadelphia to be a formality at this point so whatever

DJ Agustin is very good. The Orlando Magic were also one of the best teams in the league at defense. He's not crappy like TJ or Neto. He is really good from three and is a decent facilitator. He's also had some explosive games once in a while. Definitely a good player at backup pg.

He was the worst defender on that roster that got consistent minutes by a pretty concievable margin. And even then his role was as an off the bench microwave. The defense was so good because of the ridiculous length and switchability of Isaac/Bamba/MCW (and to a lesser extent Birch/Iwundu/Ennis/Vuc/Fultz). He's not a bad player and a step above Neto, I'm just moving away from that build of player that can't defend. I'd much rather target guys like Wright/Bradley/Wanamaker or one of the excess amounts of guards in New Orleans/San Antonio. Mills for a salary package & some minor draft compensation or Hill for something similar.

We need guards who can spread the floor for Jo and Ben. For too long we've had short guards, but those short guards who couldn't defend were also terrible shooters from 3. Agustin is not. The defense will be fine, with players like Embiid, Ben, maybe Noel, Green, Thybulle, and hopefully a new defensive philosophy.

stormi · Post #1748 » by **stormi** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:45 pm

Arsenal wrote:
stormi wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

DJ Agustin is very good. The Orlando Magic were also one of the best teams in the league at defense. He's not crappy like TJ or Neto. He is really good from three and is a decent facilitator. He's also had some explosive games once in a while. Definitely a good player at backup pg.

He was the worst defender on that roster that got consistent minutes by a pretty concievable margin. And even then his role was as an off the bench microwave. The defense was so good because of the ridiculous length and switchability of Isaac/Bamba/MCW (and to a lesser extent Birch/Iwundu/Ennis/Vuc/Fultz). He's not a bad player and a step above Neto, I'm just moving away from that build of player that can't defend. I'd much rather target guys like Wright/Bradley/Wanamaker or one of the excess amounts of guards in New Orleans/San Antonio. Mills for a salary package & some minor draft compensation or Hill for something similar.

I mean, Patty Mills would be perfect. But he will cost. Not sure we're ready to pay that price. Same w/George Hill.

true

eyeatoma · Post #1749 » by **eyeatoma** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:45 pm

Arsenal wrote:
stormi wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

DJ Agustin is very good. The Orlando Magic were also one of the best teams in the league at defense. He's not crappy like TJ or Neto. He is really good from three and is a decent facilitator. He's also had some explosive games once in a while. Definitely a good player at backup pg.

He was the worst defender on that roster that got consistent minutes by a pretty concievable margin. And even then his role was as an off the bench microwave. The defense was so good because of the ridiculous length and switchability of Isaac/Bamba/MCW (and to a lesser extent Birch/Iwundu/Ennis/Vuc/Fultz). He's not a bad player and a step above Neto, I'm just moving away from that build of player that can't defend. I'd much rather target guys like Wright/Bradley/Wanamaker or one of the excess amounts of guards in New Orleans/San Antonio. Mills for a salary package & some minor draft compensation or Hill for something similar.

I mean, Patty Mills would be perfect. But he will cost. Not sure we're ready to pay that price. Same w/George Hill.

I'd love both of those players too.

Post #1750 » by **sixers hoops** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:59 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
stormi wrote:
He was the worst defender on that roster that got consistent minutes by a pretty concievable margin. And even then his role was as an off the bench microwave. The defense was so good because of the ridiculous length and switchability of Isaac/Bamba/MCW (and to a lesser extent Birch/Iwundu/Ennis/Vuc/Fultz). He's not a bad player and a step above Neto, I'm just moving away from that build of player that can't defend. I'd much rather target guys like Wright/Bradley/Wanamaker or one of the excess amounts of guards in New Orleans/San Antonio. Mills for a salary package & some minor draft compensation or Hill for something similar.

I mean, Patty Mills would be perfect. But he will cost. Not sure we're ready to pay that price. Same w/George Hill.

I'd love both of those players too.

NO has Bledsoe and Hill, so I feel like they would give one up just for cap relief and a minor asset.

Scott, Zhaire, and a second for Hill?

Unless Presti wants to pump them for late firsts.

Arsenal · Post #1751 » by **Arsenal** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:04 pm

sixers hoops wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
I mean, Patty Mills would be perfect. But he will cost. Not sure we're ready to pay that price. Same w/George Hill.

I'd love both of those players too.

NO has Bledsoe and Hill, so I feel like they would give one up just for cap relief and a minor asset.

Scott, Zhaire, and a second for Hill?

Unless Presti wants to pump them for late firsts.

Hopefully Griff really likes mini-Kawhi!

ankle420breaker · Post #1752 » by **ankle420breaker** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:11 pm

Not a single Woj Bomb yet?

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eyeatoma · Post #1753 » by **eyeatoma** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:12 pm

Bogdan and Bucks ruined free agency...

nitocobola · Post #1754 » by **nitocobola** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:15 pm

dragic and meyers leonard are back with the heat.

Arsenal · Post #1755 » by **Arsenal** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:16 pm

So thankful we're not out there overpaying in the free agent market again. Like Morey said in his presser, the FA market is where bad contracts are usually made.

davesilver · Post #1756 » by **davesilver** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:32 pm

eyeatoma wrote:Bogdan and Bucks ruined free agency...

So curious to find out what the hell happened

Sportfan73 · Post #1757 » by **Sportfan73** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:35 pm

Final guess for me is Noel then a trade off a Scott+ for a guard

nitocobola · Post #1758 » by **nitocobola** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:47 pm

ok, the pistons are actually worse managed than the knicks at this point.

davesilver · Post #1759 » by **davesilver** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:50 pm

nitocobola wrote:ok, the pistons are actually worse managed than the knicks at this point.

No that they signed Plumlee, is Wood a possibility for a deal / S+T? Could we afford him?

Sportfan73 · Post #1760 » by **Sportfan73** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:51 pm

davesilver wrote:
nitocobola wrote:ok, the pistons are actually worse managed than the knicks at this point.

No that they signed Plumlee, is Wood a possibility for a deal / S+T? Could we afford him?

For Tobias maybe