2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft
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Even though he's statistically just not my cup of tea, I do think there is a path to a type of stardom in the NBA for Ace, particularly in his early years with a bad team. He doesn't have many of the attributes these guys possessed coming into the league, but he has very strong LaVine and Ingram energy which have been a brand of losing basketball for the past decade. Even if you want to be generous about his mid range game and can ignore all other parts of this comps stats, DeRozan hasn't been able to really elevate any team as a mid range merchant.
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PG would probably take Ace under his wings if we draft him, so he can tell in his podcast that he was right

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I'm so ready for this guy to drive me absolutely f***ing insane for the next 6 years.
It's funny because I can see someone like Anthony Edwards saying that at his age and finding it amusing, but it also scares me to death that he's an overconfident dimwit. Like I said, his interviews have been a real turnoff.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Oubre/Edwards
George/Watford/Barlow
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Oubre/Edwards
George/Watford/Barlow
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
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I dont have a problem with Ace swagger. Some people need it to be an alpha. If he will back it up, thats with him, but our team always lacked that. Embiid talked a lot, but in the playoffs he never backed it up, sadly...
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Anthony Edwards was hilarious in his pre-draft interviews. It was hard to take anything he said seriously because he so clearly had a sense of humour and a big personality. I don't get that from Ace.
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I will say that I trust morey in whatever he does in regards to this draft. I would feel better though if he drafts someone at 3. I don't care if it's a euro player we've never heard of. Just draft the guy you think is the best player in the draft available
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M2J wrote:I will say that I trust morey in whatever he does in regards to this draft. I would feel better though if he drafts someone at 3. I don't care if it's a euro player we've never heard of. Just draft the guy you think is the best player in the draft available
If Morey likes all 3 of Tre/Ace/VJ and decides to move down with the jazz for 5 and future picks; I'm fine with that. As long as they legitimately view all 3 as near equal.
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Negrodamus wrote:
I'm so ready for this guy to drive me absolutely f***ing insane for the next 6 years.
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I feel a bit better about Bailey after seeing his agility, shuttle, and 3/4 sprint results. He’s testing pretty well athletically even if his measurements and vertical aren’t as good as you’d like.
I’m starting to talk myself into him because his situation at Rutgers was unique - really wish we could’ve seen him in a legit program. Those statistical comps are scary tho.
I’m starting to talk myself into him because his situation at Rutgers was unique - really wish we could’ve seen him in a legit program. Those statistical comps are scary tho.
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Jailblazers7 wrote:I feel a bit better about Bailey after seeing his agility, shuttle, and 3/4 sprint results. He’s testing pretty well athletically even if his measurements and vertical aren’t as good as you’d like.
I’m starting to talk myself into him because his situation at Rutgers was unique - really wish we could’ve seen him in a legit program. Those statistical comps are scary tho.
I will not talk myself into him at any point, but I will accept our fate when we pick him third. I can only hope he's a prime RoCo type role player and doesn't try to be more than that. I can see him actually pissing off Embiid, PG, and Maxey if he's going rogue and taking the worst shots you've ever seen in your life.
It's kind of funny how the retort is that Edgecombe isn't a real creator. We have arguably 6 guys (Embiid, PG, Oubre, McCain, Maxey, Grimes) who have been focal points of the offense and would love nothing more than to be gunners. We could add a SG who has shown great defensive upside, a menace out in the open court, a tireless worker, secondary distribution chops, and has already shown the ability to play off ball with NBA players PRIOR to going to college... or we can bring in the guy who talks about how hard he practices taking horribly contested shots on the heels of an inefficient shooting season.
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Negrodamus wrote:Jailblazers7 wrote:I feel a bit better about Bailey after seeing his agility, shuttle, and 3/4 sprint results. He’s testing pretty well athletically even if his measurements and vertical aren’t as good as you’d like.
I’m starting to talk myself into him because his situation at Rutgers was unique - really wish we could’ve seen him in a legit program. Those statistical comps are scary tho.
I will not talk myself into him at any point, but I will accept our fate when we pick him third. I can only hope he's a prime RoCo type role player and doesn't try to be more than that. I can see him actually pissing off Embiid, PG, and Maxey if he's going rogue and taking the worst shots you've ever seen in your life.
It's kind of funny how the retort is that Edgecombe isn't a real creator. We have arguably 6 guys (Embiid, PG, Oubre, McCain, Maxey, Grimes) who have been focal points of the offense and would love nothing more than to be gunners. We could add a SG who has shown great defensive upside, a menace out in the open court, a tireless worker, secondary distribution chops, and has already shown the ability to play off ball with NBA players PRIOR to going to college... or we can bring in the guy who talks about how hard he practices taking horribly contested shots on the heels of an inefficient shooting season.
I think if he ends like Roco thats a big failure for him. I dont think he will be as good as Roco on defense, but he will be better shooting from 3( maybe with less volme), but his mid range jumper will be pretty important. Maybe in his first couple of years he should be a 3&D player, but, after that, he should expand his game, he has all the tools for it.
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Negrodamus wrote:Jailblazers7 wrote:I feel a bit better about Bailey after seeing his agility, shuttle, and 3/4 sprint results. He’s testing pretty well athletically even if his measurements and vertical aren’t as good as you’d like.
I’m starting to talk myself into him because his situation at Rutgers was unique - really wish we could’ve seen him in a legit program. Those statistical comps are scary tho.
I will not talk myself into him at any point, but I will accept our fate when we pick him third. I can only hope he's a prime RoCo type role player and doesn't try to be more than that. I can see him actually pissing off Embiid, PG, and Maxey if he's going rogue and taking the worst shots you've ever seen in your life.
It's kind of funny how the retort is that Edgecombe isn't a real creator. We have arguably 6 guys (Embiid, PG, Oubre, McCain, Maxey, Grimes) who have been focal points of the offense and would love nothing more than to be gunners. We could add a SG who has shown great defensive upside, a menace out in the open court, a tireless worker, secondary distribution chops, and has already shown the ability to play off ball with NBA players PRIOR to going to college... or we can bring in the guy who talks about how hard he practices taking horribly contested shots on the heels of an inefficient shooting season.
All fair points - for the record my two favorites are still VJ and Kon personally. I’m just coming around a bit to the idea of Ace.
I agree with you on the personality fit - that’s actually one of my major red flags. His “I don’t have any weaknesses” answer was funny but I’d be very concerned he bristles against fitting into an already talented veteran team. His choice to go to Rutgers so he could chuck shots on a losing team isn’t helping that concern either.
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I don't think the Sixers should even factor in how anyone fits with anyone. Just take the guy they believe has the best chance to be a star. Whether he fits or not. This team is in no position to be thinking short term.
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Does anyone know of a place I can go to watch full games for Rutgers? I really want to see what was happening in those games. I do notice that in quite a few of the games where Ace struggled so did Harper.
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FireMorey wrote:I don't think the Sixers should even factor in how anyone fits with anyone. Just take the guy they believe has the best chance to be a star. Whether he fits or not. This team is in no position to be thinking short term.
Yep, the only player i´m concerned about fit is Maxey. I´m not worried about what Embiid or PG thinks, they arent part of our future anymore. We shouldnt think of a players fit with the big fella, that ship has sailed.
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I really like Tre, and think he can be an allstar too, if his driving game and his defense improves. But i´m favoring Bailey because i think a SF is more important than a SG, and Ace can be a pretty good defender, since he has all the tools and, in some ways, he´s already advanced:
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Man, if we do a trade like this with the nets i would be mad. Just doesnt make sense to still bet on Embiid´s health. Even if by a miracle he´s injury free next season, and close to his MVP form, his game doesnt work in the playoffs, its already proved. Spend a top pick in a swap with the nets, for friking Cam Johnson and picks outside the lotery seems like a dumb move...
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Man, if we do a trade like this with the nets i would be mad. Just doesnt make sense to still bet on Embiid´s health. Even if by a miracle he´s injury free next season, and close to his MVP form, his game doesnt work in the playoffs, it’s already proved. Spend a top pick in a swap with the nets, for friking Cam Johnson and picks outside the lotery seems like a dumb move...
Don’t worry. People are just talking because that’s what they get paid to do. There’s no way in H Morey trades this pick unless it’s to move up or it’s absurdly in our favor. Not after the way he’s gotten his ass kicked by the fans this year.
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Can you imagine Morey trading #3 for Cam Johnson LOL. Not even considering the impossible salary filler(s) it would take to even get there.
Time to put Sam Veceine in the same bucket as Sam Amico.
Time to put Sam Veceine in the same bucket as Sam Amico.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Oubre/Edwards
George/Watford/Barlow
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Oubre/Edwards
George/Watford/Barlow
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome