Fantasy Trade Thread

[cool93]

MIN gets Covington, Bayless, Ajinca, and 2019 PHI 1st
NOP gets Chandler, B. Simmons, Dieng, and 2021 MIA 1st
PHI gets A. Davis and Butler

Fultz/McConnell/Shamet
Redick/?/Smith
Butler/Korkmaz/?
Davis/Saric/Bolden
Embiid/Muscala/Johnson

NOP hangs the phone and blocks a number

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no they don't. Not when they're trading a top 5, 25 year old current player for a top 15, 22 year old with his best days ahead of him. They probably say call us with this offer this time next year. Which at that point I would think this offer doesn't exist anymore, from our side.

Simmons is not top 15 player. He is not in a same stratosphere as AD right now and he would need at least some kind of jumpshot to become that good in future.

[Ericb5]

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no they don't. Not when they're trading a top 5, 25 year old current player for a top 15, 22 year old with his best days ahead of him. They probably say call us with this offer this time next year. Which at that point I would think this offer doesn't exist anymore, from our side.

Simmons is not top 15 player. He is not in a same stratosphere as AD right now and he would need at least some kind of jumpshot to become that good in future.

The real point is that it is completely unserious to propose trading Embiid or Simmons for anyone. We have two franchise players that don't clash at all, and there is no reason to trade either of them for anyone.

[cool93]

no they don't. Not when they're trading a top 5, 25 year old current player for a top 15, 22 year old with his best days ahead of him. They probably say call us with this offer this time next year. Which at that point I would think this offer doesn't exist anymore, from our side.

Simmons is not top 15 player. He is not in a same stratosphere as AD right now and he would need at least some kind of jumpshot to become that good in future.

The real point is that it is completely unserious to propose trading Embiid or Simmons for anyone. We have two franchise players that don't clash at all, and there is no reason to trade either of them for anyone.

Yeah, of course we won't trade anyone of them, it would be stupid to do so. My point is that no one gives up AD for Simmons.

[Ericb5]

Simmons is not top 15 player. He is not in a same stratosphere as AD right now and he would need at least some kind of jumpshot to become that good in future.

The real point is that it is completely unserious to propose trading Embiid or Simmons for anyone. We have two franchise players that don't clash at all, and there is no reason to trade either of them for anyone.

Yeah, of course we won't trade anyone of them, it would be stupid to do so. My point is that no one gives up AD for Simmons.

True. I was commenting more on the original idea.

Davis is one of the few players in the league that would be someone that could be worth trading Simmons for in a purely mathematical sense, but neither team should or would do that deal.

Were fans in 1981 seriously thinking about trading Magic for anyone? It is utterly ridiculous.

We have two generational talents that we paid dearly to get. They are both individually the types of players that franchises tank for, and we have two of them. Unless you are absolutely forced to move one of them you don’t even think about it.

It would be like an Eagles fan proposing that we trade Carson Wentz. Franchise players under the age of 25 on their first contracts, don’t get traded EVER, unless they are forcing themselves out. I mean what are we doing people if we are this skittish and unstable?


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[the_process]

How about some kind of deal where the bones of it are Butler to WSH, Beal to PHI, and Cov and MIA 1st to MIN?

[ProcessDoctor]

I'm all for trading Covington, but I think we need a wing back if we do because we are very thin there. With Fultz starting, I think another wing with 38%+ 3-pt shooting will be sorely needed. Middleton would be perfect, but I doubt he's available before this summer.

[thejuice17]

I'm all for trading Covington, but I think we need a wing back if we do because we are very thin there. With Fultz starting, I think another wing with 38%+ 3-pt shooting will be sorely needed. Middleton would be perfect, but I doubt he's available before this summer.

Middleton IS OVERRATED

[thejuice17]

I'm all for trading Covington, but I think we need a wing back if we do because we are very thin there. With Fultz starting, I think another wing with 38%+ 3-pt shooting will be sorely needed. Middleton would be perfect, but I doubt he's available before this summer.

TRADE FOR CANCER BUTLER ??? ARE U KIDDING ME

[ProcessDoctor]

I'm all for trading Covington, but I think we need a wing back if we do because we are very thin there. With Fultz starting, I think another wing with 38%+ 3-pt shooting will be sorely needed. Middleton would be perfect, but I doubt he's available before this summer.

TRADE FOR CANCER BUTLER ??? ARE U KIDDING ME

Do you need a new keyboard? It seems to be stuck on caps lock.

I hope you're ok.

[Wilfried]

Middleton and Klay are perfect fits to our team.

But are those players the ones you give an max contract?
Which would be needed to even have a chance to get them.

[ProcessDoctor]

I think you would have to max Klay to pry him away from GS.

Middleton is a tier below, but if we're forced to either max him out or miss out on everyone in free agency, then I'd show him the money.

[thejuice17]

I think you would have to max Klay to pry him away from GS.

Middleton is a tier below, but if we're forced to either max him out or miss out on everyone in free agency, then I'd show him the money.

Sorry,Klay will not leave GWS

[the_process]

no they don't. Not when they're trading a top 5, 25 year old current player for a top 15, 22 year old with his best days ahead of him. They probably say call us with this offer this time next year. Which at that point I would think this offer doesn't exist anymore, from our side.

Simmons is not top 15 player. He is not in a same stratosphere as AD right now and he would need at least some kind of jumpshot to become that good in future.

The real point is that it is completely unserious to propose trading Embiid or Simmons for anyone. We have two franchise players that don't clash at all, and there is no reason to trade either of them for anyone.

That’s not entirely true. Just because Ben likes to pass and Jo likes to shoot doesn’t mean they don’t try to operate in the same areas of the court. Brett staggers them a lot for a reason. Also, they may not openly clash but they’re not friendly either, could that have something to do with Ben wanting a bigger spotlight? No doubt he wants his own team, and sooner rather than later. I’m not saying he’s leaving in three years, but there is a non-zero chance it happens.

Anyway, you can think it’s crazy or whatever but trading Simmons can’t be 100% ruled out. Not for anybody obviously, but AD would certainly be a guy you would think about trading Simmons for.

[the_process]

Wonder if there’s some kind of S&T deal that can be worked out with GSW for Pat McCaw? Liked that kid in the draft a couple years ago. Had a good year, then was regressing before he got hurt. Still has a lot of 2 way potential.

[TTP]

Wonder if there’s some kind of S&T deal that can be worked out with GSW for Pat McCaw? Liked that kid in the draft a couple years ago. Had a good year, then was regressing before he got hurt. Still has a lot of 2 way potential.

Yeah just posted about this in the other thread. If the Warriors renounce him (which definitely looks possible), we wouldn't even need to trade for him. We could unload Bayless and sign him cheap. There's still good potential to be a useful 2-way rotation player there and we still need a backup wing to emerge in the rotation. It would be nice to have McCaw competing with Korkmaz, Shamet, and eventually Zhaire for those minutes. You can never have enough wings. Seems like a low risk opportunity for a post-hype prospect.

[Kobblehead]

It's a tough sell to me, to want to placate McCaw with a multiyear contract when he hasn't even quite cemented himself as a rotation-worthy player yet.

Besides, I much prefer my role players on rookie deals.

[the_process]

The deal that HOU gave KJ McDaniels... 3-9 with the 3rd year NG... seems to me a good basis for a McCaw deal.

Maybe you can use two 2nds to dump Bayless on SAC, then just sign McCaw to an offer sheet?

[Kobblehead]

I'd rather use Bayless at the deadline to acquire an established rotation player, if needed, than to dump him now to kick the tires on McCaw.

Besides, McCaw is prioritizing oppurtunity. I don't want to guarantee him playing time when we have guys like Shamet, Korkmaz and Smith vying for those same minutes. I'm not convinced he's better than any of those guys.

[Ericb5]

Simmons is not top 15 player. He is not in a same stratosphere as AD right now and he would need at least some kind of jumpshot to become that good in future.

The real point is that it is completely unserious to propose trading Embiid or Simmons for anyone. We have two franchise players that don't clash at all, and there is no reason to trade either of them for anyone.

That’s not entirely true. Just because Ben likes to pass and Jo likes to shoot doesn’t mean they don’t try to operate in the same areas of the court. Brett staggers them a lot for a reason. Also, they may not openly clash but they’re not friendly either, could that have something to do with Ben wanting a bigger spotlight? No doubt he wants his own team, and sooner rather than later. I’m not saying he’s leaving in three years, but there is a non-zero chance it happens.

Anyway, you can think it’s crazy or whatever but trading Simmons can’t be 100% ruled out. Not for anybody obviously, but AD would certainly be a guy you would think about trading Simmons for.

Simmons is 21 or 22 years old, and is a future mvp candidate. You don’t even think about trading him while he is still on the upswing seeing as he is happy here, has HOF talent, and doesn’t conflict with our other franchise player.

Just because he and Embiid both can operate in similar places doesn’t mean that they conflict at all. Embiid is a 5, and Simmons is 1/4 which means he is basically a guard that is big enough to play the 4.

A 5 doesn’t conflict with anyone other than other 5’s.

Simmons and Embiid will be the foundation of our franchise unless health goes south, or something off the court happens to soil the situation. As basketball players they are the best young 1-2 punch in the league, and that shouldn’t be messed with.


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[LloydFree]

I'd rather use Bayless at the deadline to acquire an established rotation player, if needed, than to dump him now to kick the tires on McCaw.

Besides, McCaw is prioritizing oppurtunity. I don't want to guarantee him playing time when we have guys like Shamet, Korkmaz and Smith vying for those same minutes. I'm not convinced he's better than any of those guys.

Not saying you are wrong, but they could do both. With Bejica backing out of his deal, the 76ers still have their "room exception". They can sign whoever they want right now or at the buyout deadline, for 4.5 million dollars.