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76ciology wrote:I believe the Knicks made a mistake by overpaying for Bridges. While Bridges is indeed more valuable than Hartenstein, the difference isn't substantial. Given their roster, the Knicks should prioritize acquiring top-end talent rather than adding depth.
Not only are they worse than us, but they also depleted their draft picks for a borderline star wing.
76ciology wrote:
the_process wrote:The Magic just renegotiated and extended Jonathan Isaac? Am I to interpret that as they tore up his old deal and just started from scratch and gave him a new one?
Didn't even know you could do that.
5 years 84M btw. That is 16.8M per.
If he can stay healthy at all it will be worth it, but no indication to this point he's capable of staying healthy.
76ciology wrote:76ciology wrote:I believe the Knicks made a mistake by overpaying for Bridges. While Bridges is indeed more valuable than Hartenstein, the difference isn't substantial. Given their roster, the Knicks should prioritize acquiring top-end talent rather than adding depth.
Not only are they worse than us, but they also depleted their draft picks for a borderline star wing.
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mjkvol wrote:Eyeamok wrote:mjkvol wrote:
Not directed at you, but it always strikes me as funny when people (mainly the media) harp on money "left on the table" when a player signs for less than every penny he could have gotten. White signed for $128 million, and it's not like his earning power stops in four years. He and his family are set up for generations.
Maybe he took 'less' because he found a place that perfectly fits his game, he's on a winning team, and it's a place where his family likes living. Nice to occasionally see someone place value in something besides scarfing up every last dollar.
It's OK we can have civil discourse. You are not wrong, yes it is not necessary to get every penny you can and if you like where you are then great. Like I said in my last sentence, if White likes it I love it for him. BUT in taking a smaller contract he makes it a lot easier for the Celtics to move him when push comes to shove. Right now even if he got as much as he could/can the Celtics are not breaking up the team. But KP is always injured, Holiday is heading into retirement and White with his reasonable contract and age is the most movable piece and taking a reasonable contract makes it that more easier to move him. But I could be wrong.
And as far as White and generational wealth....come on man, in the 2023-2024 season, White could not even afford a decent haircut. Now he has generational wealth !? It's quite obvious he spends it as quickly as he makes it.
Was I not being civil?
Excellent points about making it easier to move him if things go south, and I agree about this Celtics team not necessarily being the long term juggernaut the media is making them out to be. A lot of moving parts there.
Arsenal wrote:the_process wrote:The Magic just renegotiated and extended Jonathan Isaac? Am I to interpret that as they tore up his old deal and just started from scratch and gave him a new one?
Didn't even know you could do that.
5 years 84M btw. That is 16.8M per.
If he can stay healthy at all it will be worth it, but no indication to this point he's capable of staying healthy.
Did just enough to get a new long contract. I expect him to miss tons of games going forward but his contract negotiation game is Assassin-esque.
the_process wrote:Rumor has it the Hawks are about to get LaVine.
Kobblehead wrote:the_process wrote:Rumor has it the Hawks are about to get LaVine.
WTF, we need to be all over a trade for Bogs.
76ciology wrote:Lastly, it’s crucial to secure a top seed in the East and avoid dragging out playoff series to keep our players fresh.
Eyeamok wrote:Arsenal wrote:the_process wrote:The Magic just renegotiated and extended Jonathan Isaac? Am I to interpret that as they tore up his old deal and just started from scratch and gave him a new one?
Didn't even know you could do that.
5 years 84M btw. That is 16.8M per.
If he can stay healthy at all it will be worth it, but no indication to this point he's capable of staying healthy.
Did just enough to get a new long contract. I expect him to miss tons of games going forward but his contract negotiation game is Assassin-esque.
Not only does Isaac read books like Harris, he writes them too !
https://store.dailywire.com/products/why-i-stand-by-jonathan-isaac
the_process wrote:76ciology wrote:76ciology wrote:I believe the Knicks made a mistake by overpaying for Bridges. While Bridges is indeed more valuable than Hartenstein, the difference isn't substantial. Given their roster, the Knicks should prioritize acquiring top-end talent rather than adding depth.
Not only are they worse than us, but they also depleted their draft picks for a borderline star wing.
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This list has Hartenstein valued at +9.9 EW.
No.
Stanford wrote:4/8m for Bronny.
Couldn't Bron just give the kid 8 million and let him live his own life?
bball4life wrote:the_process wrote:
This list has Hartenstein valued at +9.9 EW.
No.
I didn't even know what EW added was. Just looked it up. Only reference I could find was Hollinger's new stupid stat. Its a counting stat with a bunch of math that significantly overvalues centers and anyone who rebounds and blocks shots. So its a terrible way to evaluate talent and actual expected wins added. That being said, I could certainly argue that the Knicks will be worse simply because Mikal bridges makes their wing rotation deeper but their center position is so weak right now, even if Mitch was healthy.
Decipher wrote:bball4life wrote:the_process wrote:
This list has Hartenstein valued at +9.9 EW.
No.
I didn't even know what EW added was. Just looked it up. Only reference I could find was Hollinger's new stupid stat. Its a counting stat with a bunch of math that significantly overvalues centers and anyone who rebounds and blocks shots. So its a terrible way to evaluate talent and actual expected wins added. That being said, I could certainly argue that the Knicks will be worse simply because Mikal bridges makes their wing rotation deeper but their center position is so weak right now, even if Mitch was healthy.
The Nets completely stunk from the moment that Simmons got injured and Bridges play was a big part of that drop off
He’ll help the Knicks but we aren’t going to be much worse without him
It will simply be reflected in 82 games rather than our post Xmas record
