Welcome Okafor

[Ericb5]

I do think Zingis' flaws would have been exposed more here.

Add to the fact that Jah probably would be putting up crazy numbers in NY and you have a perfect storm of sorts lol

I don't think that Porzingis really has more upside than Okafor. I think he definitely is a more flexible player that will be easier to build around, and would definitely fit better with Embiid, but as a pure basketball player, I wouldn't rather have Porzingis.

There is a lot of revisionist history going on right now with NBA people, and fans, and there is a belief that the Sixers made a mistake drafting Okafor. It is really disingenuous to imply that that was really any type of decision at the time. Every team would have taken Okafor over Porzingis that day, including the Knicks.

Porzingis is a talented kid. I loved him from the first interviews that I saw him do, and later with that amazing workout video, but he had major risk associated with him.

They will always be compared to each other though from here on out. They will be forever linked. I am rooting for Porzingis to be a star just like I want Okafor to be a star. It is very early days though.

We should compare them year by year more so than game by game. They are both having really good rookie years. Will one of them put some distance on the other after their sophomore years? Don't know.


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I do think Zingis' flaws would have been exposed more here.

Add to the fact that Jah probably would be putting up crazy numbers in NY and you have a perfect storm of sorts lol

I don't think that Porzingis really has more upside than Okafor. I think he definitely is a more flexible player that will be easier to build around, and would definitely fit better with Embiid, but as a pure basketball player, I wouldn't rather have Porzingis.

There is a lot of revisionist history going on right now with NBA people, and fans, and there is a belief that the Sixers made a mistake drafting Okafor. It is really disingenuous to imply that that was really any type of decision at the time. Every team would have taken Okafor over Porzingis that day, including the Knicks.

Porzingis is a talented kid. I loved him from the first interviews that I saw him do, and later with that amazing workout video, but he had major risk associated with him.

They will always be compared to each other though from here on out. They will be forever linked. I am rooting for Porzingis to be a star just like I want Okafor to be a star. It is very early days though.

We should compare them year by year more so than game by game. They are both having really good rookie years. Will one of them put some distance on the other after their sophomore years? Don't know.


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Offcourse Porzingis has a higher upside - He's higher, more athletic and has a better shooting touch. It's not even close in terms of upside. Porzingis also seems to be ahead (and then some) in terms of rebounding and defense.

[Ericb5]

I do think Zingis' flaws would have been exposed more here.

Add to the fact that Jah probably would be putting up crazy numbers in NY and you have a perfect storm of sorts lol

I don't think that Porzingis really has more upside than Okafor. I think he definitely is a more flexible player that will be easier to build around, and would definitely fit better with Embiid, but as a pure basketball player, I wouldn't rather have Porzingis.

There is a lot of revisionist history going on right now with NBA people, and fans, and there is a belief that the Sixers made a mistake drafting Okafor. It is really disingenuous to imply that that was really any type of decision at the time. Every team would have taken Okafor over Porzingis that day, including the Knicks.

Porzingis is a talented kid. I loved him from the first interviews that I saw him do, and later with that amazing workout video, but he had major risk associated with him.

They will always be compared to each other though from here on out. They will be forever linked. I am rooting for Porzingis to be a star just like I want Okafor to be a star. It is very early days though.

We should compare them year by year more so than game by game. They are both having really good rookie years. Will one of them put some distance on the other after their sophomore years? Don't know.


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Offcourse Porzingis has a higher upside - He's higher, more athletic and has a better shooting touch. It's not even close in terms of upside. Porzingis also seems to be ahead (and then some) in terms of rebounding and defense.

He has a more well rounded skill set, but is he ever going to be someone that is consistently doubled in the post?

I would probably trade Okafor for him simply because he fits better with Embiid and Noel, but I don't think that he is a better prospect.


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[Unbreakable99]

Good to see Jahlil hit that "almost" 3 in the 4th last night. When him and Joel are knocking those down, its gonna be iso world on the block for whoevers in the paint. Its crazy to believe he's got this much talent at 19/20. Practices should be especially fun come next season with Jah and Joel going at each other.

I can't wait to hear about how Embiid looks going against Okafor in practices. That will be the next big milestone before summer league, and then the start of the season next year.


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What if you hear how good Okafor looks against Embiid in practice? Would that be cause for concern?

[ET Da Gawd]

Good to see Jahlil hit that "almost" 3 in the 4th last night. When him and Joel are knocking those down, its gonna be iso world on the block for whoevers in the paint. Its crazy to believe he's got this much talent at 19/20. Practices should be especially fun come next season with Jah and Joel going at each other.

I can't wait to hear about how Embiid looks going against Okafor in practices. That will be the next big milestone before summer league, and then the start of the season next year.


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What if you hear how good Okafor looks against Embiid in practice? Would that be cause for concern?

Why would it be? It will improve the both of them.

[Duke4life831]

I don't know why you guys are so set on Okafor being a 4. The dude will never be able to guard NBA 4s.

[sixers hoops]

I don't know why you guys are so set on Okafor being a 4. The dude will never be able to guard NBA 4s.

I personally doubt he'll ever be able to guard 4s, and I always like to build around a defensive center so I prefer Noel if one has to go.

[Duke4life831]

I don't know why you guys are so set on Okafor being a 4. The dude will never be able to guard NBA 4s.

I personally doubt he'll ever be able to guard 4s, and I always like to build around a defensive center so I prefer Noel if one has to go.

I get that thought process. And if Philly wants to go that route, it would be much smarter to trade him then try and play him at the 4

[Skates]

If they eventually trade Jah, and I have no idea if that will happen, I am fairly certain they know he is good enough to send him to the Western Conference so that they only have to face him twice a year unless both get to the finals. I am all for getting the best deals and ignoring the emotional side of things, but with Colangelo on board and the PR hits the team has taken the last few years, having Jah playing in Boston and winning big there is not the kind of deal I can see them ever making.

[Dave321]

I don't know why you guys are so set on Okafor being a 4. The dude will never be able to guard NBA 4s.

I personally doubt he'll ever be able to guard 4s, and I always like to build around a defensive center so I prefer Noel if one has to go.

I get that thought process. And if Philly wants to go that route, it would be much smarter to trade him then try and play him at the 4

Let's say we do trade him, who would another team would actually be willing to give up for him that the Sixers would feel they got the same value for?

[sixers hoops]

I personally doubt he'll ever be able to guard 4s, and I always like to build around a defensive center so I prefer Noel if one has to go.

I get that thought process. And if Philly wants to go that route, it would be much smarter to trade him then try and play him at the 4

Let's say we do trade him, who would another team would actually be willing to give up for him that the Sixers would feel they got the same value for?

I could see them trading him in a package for an established perimeter player. I don't know who is available, but guys like Lilliard and George are all-stars on teams who could look to tear down and rebuild around a guy like Okafor. Not saying those specific guys are available, but the next star to get moved from a team looking to rebuild.

[Ericb5]

Good to see Jahlil hit that "almost" 3 in the 4th last night. When him and Joel are knocking those down, its gonna be iso world on the block for whoevers in the paint. Its crazy to believe he's got this much talent at 19/20. Practices should be especially fun come next season with Jah and Joel going at each other.

I can't wait to hear about how Embiid looks going against Okafor in practices. That will be the next big milestone before summer league, and then the start of the season next year.


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What if you hear how good Okafor looks against Embiid in practice? Would that be cause for concern?

It won't be cause for concern. Okafor will cause trouble for anyone one on one. I only have health concerns with Embiid. Outside of that, if he struggles early on it won't be concerning to me.

I don't think anyone expect him to be a star from day one. Given his time off, and relative lack of experience even if he DIDN'T miss time.


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[Duke4life831]

I get that thought process. And if Philly wants to go that route, it would be much smarter to trade him then try and play him at the 4

Let's say we do trade him, who would another team would actually be willing to give up for him that the Sixers would feel they got the same value for?

I could see them trading him in a package for an established perimeter player. I don't know who is available, but guys like Lilliard and George are all-stars on teams who could look to tear down and rebuild around a guy like Okafor. Not saying those specific guys are available, but the next star to get moved from a team looking to rebuild.

You can't expect getting a proven all star perimeter players like that. If Portland would trade someone it would be Mccullom (or however you spell CJ's name). You would have to expect young guys with potential. Just look what Denver got back for Melo

[Dave321]

Let's say we do trade him, who would another team would actually be willing to give up for him that the Sixers would feel they got the same value for?

I could see them trading him in a package for an established perimeter player. I don't know who is available, but guys like Lilliard and George are all-stars on teams who could look to tear down and rebuild around a guy like Okafor. Not saying those specific guys are available, but the next star to get moved from a team looking to rebuild.

You can't expect getting a proven all star perimeter players like that. If Portland would trade someone it would be Mccullom (or however you spell CJ's name). You would have to expect young guys with potential. Just look what Denver got back for Melo

CJ straight up would be an interesting trade which Portland would probably do, but a gamble that he could continue his high level of play for the last few months. His numbers are good, but not great percentage wise. 42% fg and 38% 3pt so his 20pt per game average is somewhat based on volume (maybe they are better when lillard was not injured)and hes around 30th in defensive win shares among shooting guards. I'd only make it if the Sixers were sure Embiid's foot was going to be alright.

[sixers hoops]

Let's say we do trade him, who would another team would actually be willing to give up for him that the Sixers would feel they got the same value for?

I could see them trading him in a package for an established perimeter player. I don't know who is available, but guys like Lilliard and George are all-stars on teams who could look to tear down and rebuild around a guy like Okafor. Not saying those specific guys are available, but the next star to get moved from a team looking to rebuild.

You can't expect getting a proven all star perimeter players like that. If Portland would trade someone it would be Mccullom (or however you spell CJ's name). You would have to expect young guys with potential. Just look what Denver got back for Melo

I think the other team is getting the young guys with potential and picks. Just like teams got for Harden, Carmelo, Deron, Love, Dwight, etc. Chris Paul was just a bad return. And Iverson was traded too late. The Sixers have pieces to jumpstart a team's rebuilding process, and Oak is a huge centerpiece.

[PhilasFinest]

Let's say we do trade him, who would another team would actually be willing to give up for him that the Sixers would feel they got the same value for?

I could see them trading him in a package for an established perimeter player. I don't know who is available, but guys like Lilliard and George are all-stars on teams who could look to tear down and rebuild around a guy like Okafor. Not saying those specific guys are available, but the next star to get moved from a team looking to rebuild.

You can't expect getting a proven all star perimeter players like that. If Portland would trade someone it would be Mccullom (or however you spell CJ's name). You would have to expect young guys with potential. Just look what Denver got back for Melo

While I understand where your coming from and somewhat agree, The Melo situation (like most superstar trades) is a completely different type of situation. Melo stated he wanted out, was an established superstar and Denver knew if they didn't move him, they'd lose him in free agency. That lowers your ability to bargain because a interested party knows you HAVE to make a deal.

Philly doesn't HAVE to move Okafor or anyone for that matter. All the players are on rookie scaled deals and under the Sixers control for several seasons. They aren't pressed into a corner like Denver was or even OKC w/ the Harden Situation.

[Duke4life831]

The thing with getting a proven star is most teams won't trade them till they are on their final year. And at the moment I don't see a proven start guaranteeing that he will sign long term with Philly. I just don't see you guys getting a proven star talent through a trade

[Duke4life831]

I could see them trading him in a package for an established perimeter player. I don't know who is available, but guys like Lilliard and George are all-stars on teams who could look to tear down and rebuild around a guy like Okafor. Not saying those specific guys are available, but the next star to get moved from a team looking to rebuild.

You can't expect getting a proven all star perimeter players like that. If Portland would trade someone it would be Mccullom (or however you spell CJ's name). You would have to expect young guys with potential. Just look what Denver got back for Melo

While I understand where your coming from and somewhat agree, The Melo situation (like most superstar trades) is a completely different type of situation. Melo stated he wanted out, was an established superstar and Denver knew if they didn't move him, they'd lose him in free agency. That lowers your ability to bargain because a interested party knows you HAVE to make a deal.

Philly doesn't HAVE to move Okafor or anyone for that matter. All the players are on rookie scaled deals and under the Sixers control for several seasons. They aren't pressed into a corner like Denver was or even OKC w/ the Harden Situation.

Oh I agree that they shouldn't trade any of them. Because they are on really great contacts. I was just speaking if they were going to trade them. But ya I don't see them trading anyone. Especially Okafor until they know what they have with Embiid.

[Ericb5]

You can't expect getting a proven all star perimeter players like that. If Portland would trade someone it would be Mccullom (or however you spell CJ's name). You would have to expect young guys with potential. Just look what Denver got back for Melo

While I understand where your coming from and somewhat agree, The Melo situation (like most superstar trades) is a completely different type of situation. Melo stated he wanted out, was an established superstar and Denver knew if they didn't move him, they'd lose him in free agency. That lowers your ability to bargain because a interested party knows you HAVE to make a deal.

Philly doesn't HAVE to move Okafor or anyone for that matter. All the players are on rookie scaled deals and under the Sixers control for several seasons. They aren't pressed into a corner like Denver was or even OKC w/ the Harden Situation.

Oh I agree that they shouldn't trade any of them. Because they are on really great contacts. I was just speaking if they were going to trade them. But ya I don't see them trading anyone. Especially Okafor until they know what they have with Embiid.

As agreed to, we need to keep our powder dry. The key is to have the assets that could get it done if a star player becomes available. Obviously, teams don't just trade stars, but we will be in a great position to pounce if and when one becomes available.

That approach also gives us time to figure out what we are going to do to resolve our big man situation. I think we need another year for that. If we make a mistake with who we keep and who we trade it could really hurt the franchise for the long term.




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[Duke4life831]

I personally dont know why so many on here are so quick to give up on Okafor. Towns gets to play with Rubio, he gets the ball at great spots all game long. Okafor had to deal with D league PGs for the majority of the game. Look how much better he has looked since you guys have gotten Ish. The dude has been extremely efficient playing with Ish. His defensive rotations still are not great but he has improved a lot on the defensive side. Ish is a solid PG but its not like hes a stud PG. Also just wait till you guys get someone on the perimeter to take some pressure off of Jah. I just think Okafor just needs to become an average defender and rebounder to become the best big in the game. Right now KAT only averages a half a block more a game and he has seemed to have hit a wall recently. I just think you cant teach KAT and KP the offensive skill set Okafor has, while Okafor can learn to be an above average to a good defender. Okafor has pretty good defensive potential with his length and mobility. The dude is 20, give him some time to become a good defender, can you imagine how good offensively he will be when hes 25