Markelle Fultz Discussion

[Unbreakable99]

Like I've said countless times. Look at some of the posters who have the most post in this thread. Straight garbage

Like who? What did they say that’s garbage?

Doesn't know. Logs on to count other people's posts.

Lol

[smittybanton]

Upon further review, I've changed my mind. I would start Markelle Fultz.

It matters more who's on the floor at the end of the game than at the beginning. And I have a sneaky suspicion that if the game's close, it will be TJ McConnell guarding John Wall.

The reason for my switch is because I don't want "the Fultz issue" to detract from Ben and Joel and the Sixers smacking the Wizards about the head and face! If he were the #3 pick, and he would've been, he could very well and should come off the bench--even if he will eventually be Harden-esque.

As much as coming off the bench won't kill him, starting him won't kill us.

That said, I do feel for the kid (and for us). On the one hand the Sixers trade up for him and he's the #1 pick.

But everything else has been a slide since his Summer League debut.

Here it is, I'm trying to accept the fact that we probably won't consider DSJ because of his injury risk, and Fultz has already had a seriously sprained ankle and a possible shoulder injury. The one person I trust unequivocally in this organization is Brett Brown. And I can't believe he would put it in the air that Fultz might be hurt unless he truly sees something different/wrong.

Then the very first preseason game, Ben takes over the crowd and it becomes clear if it wasn't before who is top banana with the rock. There will be a timeshare at the point. But we're talking more like Ben, Monday through Friday, and Fultz on the weekends.

The kid is talented, for sure. Just got to work on his catch and shoot game. Take the easy points, the rhythm shots.
Always reading and shaking his defender before he gets the ball, running him into screens and whatnot. When Ben had the ball, 'Kelle (can I call you 'Kelle?) let his defender guard him and didn't move to get the rock until Ben was already stuck in the paint.

He's got to move quickly one way or the other when his man is peeking in, ready for the look, and ready to bust his man's ass for trying to recover.

He's got all the skills to do it. It will be sweet.

He already knows he hasn't played all that well, and then had to sit out the last couple games. His confidence is already struck.
At this point, starting him may give him more of a boost of confidence, then benching will hurt him.

Plus, I thought he did a pretty good job on defense, despite his scoring woes. Jerryd Bayless is a green light. He's not getting back what he's going to give up to the Grizeat Jizohn Wizall

We don't really need-need-need Fultz to do a lot of scoring. Between Ben and Joel, and JJ and Cov, Markelle's job is to be 6'4 with 7'0 arms and pickup three fouls roughing up John wall in the first quarter. ;=)

Oh ****! I forgot we were playing the Wizards, in D.C.

Not only will there be a ton of Sixers fans in the building, two-fifths of PG County will be there to see Markelle (DeMatha).
DC fans are not loyal to their teams, particularly the Wizards. I can just hear the crowd raising the roof, yelling "We want Markelle!"

Then Brett subs him in and the place goes wild!

Upon further review, I've changed my mind....

[Unbreakable99]

I guess Brown is a hater though right? I like this move. I mean you must start the number 1 pick right lol? Brown knows Fultz is behind the curve and Brown is doing the right thing. Don't rush Fultz when he's clearly not ready.

Read on Twitter

[europeanfan]

I don't know if Brown is a Fultz hater but he isn't a lover that's for sure.

If he's smart he should take a year or two off, that's how you get respect on the Sixers.

First Brown doesn't give him a shot at PG, second he doesn't even start him, starting to be quite noticeable.

Wonder what's the dynamic between BC who is a fan and made the pick and BB who obviously doesn't like the kid much.

[JojoSlimbiid]

Brown makes dumb moves early in the seasons and it takes awhile to fix em. Not surprised. He kept starting Sergio when it was clear he was ineffective it took an injury before the Detroit game for him to wake up. He also kept the train-wrecked two towers on 2-3 more games than it deserved. The inbound plays and late game execution early in the season last year was disturbingly bad...but got better. He'll realize it's a mistake or he'll end up back in Australia watching the next coach benefit off the process.

[Negrodamus]

It's not terribly surprising. They have a reason to start the season with him off the bench. He was injured. It's not bad optics with that reasoning. But now he gets to run the second unit and not have any pressure to succeed with Embiid and Simmons off the bat. Hopefully that shot is coming back now. Glad he's playing 5v5.

[mc140]

https://deadspin.com/markelle-fultz-joins-anthony-bennett-on-a-very-troublin-1819485684?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Still, it’s worth noting that since 2003, the only number one overall NBA draft picks who were healthy enough to play who did not open their rookie seasons as starters were Anthony Bennett and Andrea Bargnani. That is not a group you want to be a part of, at all.

[76ciology]

https://deadspin.com/markelle-fultz-joins-anthony-bennett-on-a-very-troublin-1819485684?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Still, it’s worth noting that since 2003, the only number one overall NBA draft picks who were healthy enough to play who did not open their rookie seasons as starters were Anthony Bennett and Andrea Bargnani. That is not a group you want to be a part of, at all.

Different situation. No correlation

[LloydFree]

Read on Twitter

They've been telegraphing this move for a couple weeks. They already know.

[Unbreakable99]

I don't know if Brown is a Fultz hater but he isn't a lover that's for sure.

If he's smart he should take a year or two off, that's how you get respect on the Sixers.

First Brown doesn't give him a shot at PG, second he doesn't even start him, starting to be quite noticeable.

Wonder what's the dynamic between BC who is a fan and made the pick and BB who obviously doesn't like the kid much.

Why should Brown start Fultz at PG when he’s not better than Simmons at PG? He’s not better than TJ at PG. He has the potential to be better than TJ at PG down the line but right now he’s not. You don’t move Simmons off the ball for Fultz. And maybe Brown doesn’t need think he’s good enough to start regardless. Being the number one pick doesn’t mean you automatically start. You have to earn it. We have better players. Maybe after a few weeks Fultz improves and warrants starting but right now is not the time. Maybe Fultz doesn’t warrant starting at all this year. Players all develop differently. Some may take longer than others. Fultz probably will take longer than others in my opinion.

[76ciology]

Ben&Biid duo to start.
Kelle&Jah duo off the bench.

Dynasty

[chris4celts]

https://deadspin.com/markelle-fultz-joins-anthony-bennett-on-a-very-troublin-1819485684?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Still, it’s worth noting that since 2003, the only number one overall NBA draft picks who were healthy enough to play who did not open their rookie seasons as starters were Anthony Bennett and Andrea Bargnani. That is not a group you want to be a part of, at all.

Different situation. No correlation

Full disclosure is that I am Celtics fan. Not trolling. Just inquisitive.

From a talent perspective perhaps, I agree with this post. However, I am perplexed and wonder if anyone can help me understand what Philly is doing...

Fultz has admitted his shoulder soreness is impacting his shot and shot mechanics. What I don't understand is why he isn't shut down until his shoulder is healed - whether it just requires rest or some type of procedure. The longer he shoots with screwed up mechanics the harder it may be to correct. I don't see what is to be gained from playing the #1 overall pick with a bum shoulder. Thoughts?

[Unbreakable99]

Brown makes dumb moves early in the seasons and it takes awhile to fix em. Not surprised. He kept starting Sergio when it was clear he was ineffective it took an injury before the Detroit game for him to wake up. He also kept the train-wrecked two towers on 2-3 more games than it deserved. The inbound plays and late game execution early in the season last year was disturbingly bad...but got better. He'll realize it's a mistake or he'll end up back in Australia watching the next coach benefit off the process.

I do agree Brown makes dumb decisions. If I don’t think this is one of them.

[Unbreakable99]

It's not terribly surprising. They have a reason to start the season with him off the bench. He was injured. It's not bad optics with that reasoning. But now he gets to run the second unit and not have any pressure to succeed with Embiid and Simmons off the bat. Hopefully that shot is coming back now. Glad he's playing 5v5.

Agreed.

[Unbreakable99]

Read on Twitter

They've been telegraphing this move for a couple weeks. They already know.

Yup. The only people shocked and angered by this move are the people who said Fultz was the clear cut best prospect and if you disagreed with that and pointed out his flaws and weren’t enamored with him then that meant you were a hater. Well I guess Brown is a hater too.

[LloydFree]

https://deadspin.com/markelle-fultz-joins-anthony-bennett-on-a-very-troublin-1819485684?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Still, it’s worth noting that since 2003, the only number one overall NBA draft picks who were healthy enough to play who did not open their rookie seasons as starters were Anthony Bennett and Andrea Bargnani. That is not a group you want to be a part of, at all.

Different situation. No correlation

Full disclosure is that I am Celtics fan. Not trolling. Just inquisitive.

From a talent perspective perhaps, I agree with this post. However, I am perplexed and wonder if anyone can help me understand what Philly is doing...

Fultz has admitted his shoulder soreness is impacting his shot and shot mechanics. What I don't understand is why he isn't shut down until his shoulder is healed - whether it just requires rest or some type of procedure. The longer he shoots with screwed up mechanics the harder it may be to correct. I don't see what is to be gained from playing the #1 overall pick with a bum shoulder. Thoughts?

Because he isn't hurt. He isn't good enough to start, so the team has been preparing the fanbase for Fultz not being ready to start. This is a way to do it, so they don't look like they made a mistake. Bayless and McConnell are better than him right now and the 76ers have a difficult early schedule.

[HotelVitale]

https://deadspin.com/markelle-fultz-joins-anthony-bennett-on-a-very-troublin-1819485684?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Still, it’s worth noting that since 2003, the only number one overall NBA draft picks who were healthy enough to play who did not open their rookie seasons as starters were Anthony Bennett and Andrea Bargnani. That is not a group you want to be a part of, at all.

Different situation. No correlation

Full disclosure is that I am Celtics fan. Not trolling. Just inquisitive. From a talent perspective perhaps, I agree with this post. However, I am perplexed and wonder if anyone can help me understand what Philly is doing... Fultz has admitted his shoulder soreness is impacting his shot and shot mechanics. What I don't understand is why he isn't shut down until his shoulder is healed - whether it just requires rest or some type of procedure. The longer he shoots with screwed up mechanics the harder it may be to correct. I don't see what is to be gained from playing the #1 overall pick with a bum shoulder. Thoughts?

There's nothing complicated about it--if the injury was bad they wouldn't play him at all. Not going to shut him down since by medical consensus it's not useful and since it was more useful for him to be getting some reps with the team in practice and the PS, but the team is also trying to win once the season starts so they gotta play the person who can step in and help right now.

Also blaming the FT from on his shoulder is just one writer's speculation; and that writer (Kevin O'Connor) fully admits he's just making a guess to explain the weird new form, and that it's just as likely to be Fultz trying something new out.

[Ericb5]

I want Fultz to start, but not because he is better than TJ, or for any optics reason of him being the first pick.

I want him to start because I think it is best for his long term development that he learns to play with Ben Simmons running the team.

If he comes off of the bench he will likely be on the ball a lot more and that isn’t going to be his long term role.

Now I would make an exception to this if his confidence was so shot that he needs to get his mojo back First. If that is the case, and the Sixers would know that, then it makes sense to me.



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[europeanfan]

Brown shaming Fultz by putting him on the shortlist of the healthy number 1 picks who didn't start along with Bennett and Bargnani can't make Colangelo happy.

Basically he's starting a war with his GM, saying he drafted another bust.

I guarantee this season will be more entertaining than Game of thrones. As long as Embiid is healthy nothing else matters, but if he isn't anymore at some point, then all hell will break loose.

[LongLiveHinkie]

You are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Stop the nonsense.