Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[FireMorey]

That's not going to happen for so many reasons. Hard cap reasons in addition to them saving KJ for a guy who could possibly bring them a much superior player to Trent Jr, as well as other reasons. KJ isn't being traded until around the deadline if he's traded.

[ProcessDoctor]

On another board they’re discussing us getting involved as a 3rd team to take on Kuminga in a Warriors-Jazz Lauri trade. Balloon KJ to $15 mil (double Kuminga’s salary this year) with pick(s) to Utah in the exchange. If we could get Kuminga on a $15 mil/year extension I would be all over this. This should only hard cap us at the 2nd apron, but someone correct me if I’m wrong.


Maxey/Lowry/McCain
Martin/Gordon/Edwards
George/Oubre/Council
Kuminga/(Vet)/(Vet)
Embiid/Drummond/Bona

[youngcrev]

I'd love for Trent Jr to come here for the minimum, I'm just not buying it.

You'd definitely have to make playing time promises for that to happen, probably even a starting role. Personally, I'd probably have him penciled in as the starting 2 with Oubre or Martin and George starting at the 3 and the 4, so not a big issue there. But I'm also guessing they've made some promises to Martin, Oubre, Lowry and Gordon in terms of roles/playing time already.

I'm all for it, but until it happens or someone legit is talking about it, I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

That would be a crazy good pickup though. I actually think his best options are Philly, Lakers and Milwaukee. He'd be in a huge role for the Bucks and clearly starter for Sixers. Not that he's better, but he could start for both Caleb or Kelly in Philly due to shooting. However, his best chance to make 5 million and essentially be a 3rdish option is the Lakers plus LA is awesome if you're a millionaire

The Bucks are the ones that jump out to me as the most obvious fit. Seems like he'd definitely start and have a large role there. Plus he's played with Dame before.

[davesilver]

For the SAC 3-teamer:

For SAC:
Philly out: KJ (3 yr, balloon first deal), '28 LAC 1st
Philly in: Murray

Sac in: Lauri
Sac out: Huerter, Murray, '26 FRP, '28 FRP,

Uta in: Huerter, KJ, 3 FRP
Uta out: Lauri

Maybe SAC throws in Carter too but seems like an overpay.

Fox Monk DeRozan Lauri Sabonis

is excellent for SAC

Maxey Martin PG Murray Embiid
Lowry McCain Oubre Morris/Cov Drum

[davesilver]

For the SAC 3-teamer:

For SAC:
Philly out: KJ (3 yr, balloon first deal), '28 LAC 1st
Philly in: Murray

Sac in: Lauri
Sac out: Huerter, Murray, '26 FRP, '28 FRP,

Uta in: Huerter, KJ, 3 FRP
Uta out: Lauri

Maybe SAC throws in Carter too but seems like an overpay.

Fox Monk DeRozan Lauri Sabonis

is excellent for SAC

Maxey Martin PG Murray Embiid
Lowry McCain Oubre Morris/Cov Drum

I feel ok about PG and Murray going up against the Boston wings. Another iteration is to go all in on Draymond (better option imo than Kuminga) with GSW. Kuminga to Utah, Draymond to Philly, Lauri to GSW. LAC 1st, 2 GSW 1sts to Utah.

Draymond gives us much needed defense, rebounding, and facilitation at the 4.

Maxey Martin PG Draymond Embiid is championship caliber.

[the_process]

For the SAC 3-teamer:

For SAC:
Philly out: KJ (3 yr, balloon first deal), '28 LAC 1st
Philly in: Murray

Sac in: Lauri
Sac out: Huerter, Murray, '26 FRP, '28 FRP,

Uta in: Huerter, KJ, 3 FRP
Uta out: Lauri

Maybe SAC throws in Carter too but seems like an overpay.

Fox Monk DeRozan Lauri Sabonis

is excellent for SAC

Maxey Martin PG Murray Embiid
Lowry McCain Oubre Morris/Cov Drum

I feel ok about PG and Murray going up against the Boston wings. Another iteration is to go all in on Draymond (better option imo than Kuminga) with GSW. Kuminga to Utah, Draymond to Philly, Lauri to GSW. LAC 1st, 2 GSW 1sts to Utah.

Draymond gives us much needed defense, rebounding, and facilitation at the 4.

Maxey Martin PG Draymond Embiid is championship caliber.

There's no way to take Draymond's salary and stay under the 2nd apron, which they are hard capped to.

I would feel good getting Kuminga. I would feel great getting Keegan Murray.

[zaz102]

For the SAC 3-teamer:

For SAC:
Philly out: KJ (3 yr, balloon first deal), '28 LAC 1st
Philly in: Murray

Sac in: Lauri
Sac out: Huerter, Murray, '26 FRP, '28 FRP,

Uta in: Huerter, KJ, 3 FRP
Uta out: Lauri

Maybe SAC throws in Carter too but seems like an overpay.

Fox Monk DeRozan Lauri Sabonis

is excellent for SAC

Maxey Martin PG Murray Embiid
Lowry McCain Oubre Morris/Cov Drum

I feel ok about PG and Murray going up against the Boston wings. Another iteration is to go all in on Draymond (better option imo than Kuminga) with GSW. Kuminga to Utah, Draymond to Philly, Lauri to GSW. LAC 1st, 2 GSW 1sts to Utah.

Draymond gives us much needed defense, rebounding, and facilitation at the 4.

Maxey Martin PG Draymond Embiid is championship caliber.

There's no way to take Draymond's salary and stay under the 2nd apron, which they are hard capped to.

I would feel good getting Kuminga. I would feel great getting Keegan Murray.

Houston guys should be targets as well.

[Covi_Marsh]

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[NearingZero]

On another board they’re discussing us getting involved as a 3rd team to take on Kuminga in a Warriors-Jazz Lauri trade. Balloon KJ to $15 mil (double Kuminga’s salary this year) with pick(s) to Utah in the exchange. If we could get Kuminga on a $15 mil/year extension I would be all over this. This should only hard cap us at the 2nd apron, but someone correct me if I’m wrong.


Maxey/Lowry/McCain
Martin/Gordon/Edwards
George/Oubre/Council
Kuminga/(Vet)/(Vet)
Embiid/Drummond/Bona

I suppose the idea from the Jazz side would be to tank as hard as possible, and to not have to pay Kuminga next year.

For the Sixers, you're looking at becoming a 2nd apron team to sign Kuminga. That's probably OK, but it'd be restrictive. For example, Oubre could opt out and walk next year, and his replacement could likely only be a vet min.

By 2027-28, you're probably trying to duck the 2nd apron to avoid the draft pick penalty. But maybe that's not quite as cumbersome as it sounds because the 10% cap rises coming over the next few years will somewhat outpace the long-term contracts we'd have on the books.

[davesilver]

For the SAC 3-teamer:

For SAC:
Philly out: KJ (3 yr, balloon first deal), '28 LAC 1st
Philly in: Murray

Sac in: Lauri
Sac out: Huerter, Murray, '26 FRP, '28 FRP,

Uta in: Huerter, KJ, 3 FRP
Uta out: Lauri

Maybe SAC throws in Carter too but seems like an overpay.

Fox Monk DeRozan Lauri Sabonis

is excellent for SAC

Maxey Martin PG Murray Embiid
Lowry McCain Oubre Morris/Cov Drum

I feel ok about PG and Murray going up against the Boston wings. Another iteration is to go all in on Draymond (better option imo than Kuminga) with GSW. Kuminga to Utah, Draymond to Philly, Lauri to GSW. LAC 1st, 2 GSW 1sts to Utah.

Draymond gives us much needed defense, rebounding, and facilitation at the 4.

Maxey Martin PG Draymond Embiid is championship caliber.

There's no way to take Draymond's salary and stay under the 2nd apron, which they are hard capped to.

I would feel good getting Kuminga. I would feel great getting Keegan Murray.

If we did Oubre + McCain + draft picks for Draymond wouldn't that bring us to 177M, under the second apron?

[Black Mage]

For the SAC 3-teamer:

For SAC:
Philly out: KJ (3 yr, balloon first deal), '28 LAC 1st
Philly in: Murray

Sac in: Lauri
Sac out: Huerter, Murray, '26 FRP, '28 FRP,

Uta in: Huerter, KJ, 3 FRP
Uta out: Lauri

Maybe SAC throws in Carter too but seems like an overpay.

Fox Monk DeRozan Lauri Sabonis

is excellent for SAC

Maxey Martin PG Murray Embiid
Lowry McCain Oubre Morris/Cov Drum

I feel ok about PG and Murray going up against the Boston wings. Another iteration is to go all in on Draymond (better option imo than Kuminga) with GSW. Kuminga to Utah, Draymond to Philly, Lauri to GSW. LAC 1st, 2 GSW 1sts to Utah.

Draymond gives us much needed defense, rebounding, and facilitation at the 4.

Maxey Martin PG Draymond Embiid is championship caliber.

We will have to give up much more than just the 2028 LAC 1st. Murray like fetches at least 3 1sts. I'm fine paying that mind you, just we'll have to pay significantly more than 1 st.

[Black Mage]

For the SAC 3-teamer:

For SAC:
Philly out: KJ (3 yr, balloon first deal), '28 LAC 1st
Philly in: Murray

Sac in: Lauri
Sac out: Huerter, Murray, '26 FRP, '28 FRP,

Uta in: Huerter, KJ, 3 FRP
Uta out: Lauri

Maybe SAC throws in Carter too but seems like an overpay.

Fox Monk DeRozan Lauri Sabonis

is excellent for SAC

Maxey Martin PG Murray Embiid
Lowry McCain Oubre Morris/Cov Drum

I feel ok about PG and Murray going up against the Boston wings. Another iteration is to go all in on Draymond (better option imo than Kuminga) with GSW. Kuminga to Utah, Draymond to Philly, Lauri to GSW. LAC 1st, 2 GSW 1sts to Utah.

Draymond gives us much needed defense, rebounding, and facilitation at the 4.

Maxey Martin PG Draymond Embiid is championship caliber.

There's no way to take Draymond's salary and stay under the 2nd apron, which they are hard capped to.

I would feel good getting Kuminga. I would feel great getting Keegan Murray.

There is no way in heck I want Draymond's psycho-nature around Joel...

[ProcessDoctor]

On another board they’re discussing us getting involved as a 3rd team to take on Kuminga in a Warriors-Jazz Lauri trade. Balloon KJ to $15 mil (double Kuminga’s salary this year) with pick(s) to Utah in the exchange. If we could get Kuminga on a $15 mil/year extension I would be all over this. This should only hard cap us at the 2nd apron, but someone correct me if I’m wrong.


Maxey/Lowry/McCain
Martin/Gordon/Edwards
George/Oubre/Council
Kuminga/(Vet)/(Vet)
Embiid/Drummond/Bona

I suppose the idea from the Jazz side would be to tank as hard as possible, and to not have to pay Kuminga next year.

For the Sixers, you're looking at becoming a 2nd apron team to sign Kuminga. That's probably OK, but it'd be restrictive. For example, Oubre could opt out and walk next year, and his replacement could likely only be a vet min.

By 2027-28, you're probably trying to duck the 2nd apron to avoid the draft pick penalty. But maybe that's not quite as cumbersome as it sounds because the 10% cap rises coming over the next few years will somewhat outpace the long-term contracts we'd have on the books.

Would that put us into the 2nd apron though? I thought we could afford another ~$15 mil guy without getting there.

[sixers hoops]

I feel ok about PG and Murray going up against the Boston wings. Another iteration is to go all in on Draymond (better option imo than Kuminga) with GSW. Kuminga to Utah, Draymond to Philly, Lauri to GSW. LAC 1st, 2 GSW 1sts to Utah.

Draymond gives us much needed defense, rebounding, and facilitation at the 4.

Maxey Martin PG Draymond Embiid is championship caliber.

There's no way to take Draymond's salary and stay under the 2nd apron, which they are hard capped to.

I would feel good getting Kuminga. I would feel great getting Keegan Murray.

If we did Oubre + McCain + draft picks for Draymond wouldn't that bring us to 177M, under the second apron?

Trade Oubre? They just signed him the other day. I don’t think they could trade him until Dec 15, even if they wanted to.

[ckchen]

Since SAC has been bidding on Lauri, I would make a call and see if Keegan Murray could be stolen as part of a 3 way deal.

Murray's salary is only 8.8M. They could match that with McCain and a reasonably priced (10M) S&T of KJ.

Pretty sure that was before they acquired DeRozan, they are effectively out of markannen sweeps, i think. Also they refused to include Keegan Murray in any deal for Markannen, they're not suddenly going to throw him into a 3 team deal getting rid of him if that was the case.

[ckchen]

Sixers got Oubre in a similar situation so who knows. Not banking on it, but there's worse thing than making a run at a title in a one and done season.

Me neither. This smells like fiction to me also. Do we know if the raptors renounced his rights? If not, I gotta think he's at least thinking there are sign-and-trade scenarios available to him to earn more this season (and beyond), if there are truly no teams with salary cap space or exceptions who would be willing to sign him.

It sounds like one of those, get on a playoff team where I can shine in the playoffs and reset my market next year.

Yeah that doesn't make any sense getting on a playoff team especially one where he doesn't start won't do anything to increase his value on the market. Maybe if he went to the Lakers and immediately became their starting 2 but not here.

[ckchen]

I'd love for Trent Jr to come here for the minimum, I'm just not buying it.

You'd definitely have to make playing time promises for that to happen, probably even a starting role. Personally, I'd probably have him penciled in as the starting 2 with Oubre or Martin and George starting at the 3 and the 4, so not a big issue there. But I'm also guessing they've made some promises to Martin, Oubre, Lowry and Gordon in terms of roles/playing time already.

I'm all for it, but until it happens or someone legit is talking about it, I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

That would be a crazy good pickup though. I actually think his best options are Philly, Lakers and Milwaukee. He'd be in a huge role for the Bucks and clearly starter for Sixers. Not that he's better, but he could start for both Caleb or Kelly in Philly due to shooting. However, his best chance to make 5 million and essentially be a 3rdish option is the Lakers plus LA is awesome if you're a millionaire

Clear starter? I'm pretty sure we've all seen the writing on the wall that they intend to start Oubre at 2 this season, wouldn't be surprised if he was promised that.

[NearingZero]

On another board they’re discussing us getting involved as a 3rd team to take on Kuminga in a Warriors-Jazz Lauri trade. Balloon KJ to $15 mil (double Kuminga’s salary this year) with pick(s) to Utah in the exchange. If we could get Kuminga on a $15 mil/year extension I would be all over this. This should only hard cap us at the 2nd apron, but someone correct me if I’m wrong.


Maxey/Lowry/McCain
Martin/Gordon/Edwards
George/Oubre/Council
Kuminga/(Vet)/(Vet)
Embiid/Drummond/Bona

I suppose the idea from the Jazz side would be to tank as hard as possible, and to not have to pay Kuminga next year.

For the Sixers, you're looking at becoming a 2nd apron team to sign Kuminga. That's probably OK, but it'd be restrictive. For example, Oubre could opt out and walk next year, and his replacement could likely only be a vet min.

By 2027-28, you're probably trying to duck the 2nd apron to avoid the draft pick penalty. But maybe that's not quite as cumbersome as it sounds because the 10% cap rises coming over the next few years will somewhat outpace the long-term contracts we'd have on the books.

Would that put us into the 2nd apron though? I thought we could afford another ~$15 mil guy without getting there.

Next year and beyond.

[cej11]

Trent Jr just followed Maxey and Drummond on Social Media????

[zaz102]

Trent Jr just followed Maxey and Drummond on Social Media????

I won't believe anything until I see his wife follow Embiids wife.