jcsunsfan wrote:Negrodamus wrote:snoopdogg88 wrote:
agreed that they are going to try something drastic. I think Okafor is gone.
If Colangelo's tenure in TOR/PHX is any indication, I'd definitely say Okafor is gone. His bigs are usually mobile and work well in fast breaks: Bosh, Stoudemire, Marion, etc. He even goes small ball with guys like James Johnson.
With that said, I think there will have to be adjustments. Embiid could be a Stoudamire/Bosh type talent, or better. Only time will tell. Nerlens cannot play the Marion role of being a stretch 4 with elite defense. He's only half of that equation. Should be interesting to see what he does with him, especially with his next contract looming.
Covington will probably be here to stay since he definitely fits the mold of undersized PF in that 7 seconds or less offense.
Ben Simmons would be great if he could shoot a lick. The quicker the offense can get initiated, the better. Unfortunately, he can't really shoot or defend (which might not matter anyway if we are going to be one of those teams putting up 130 points a night). I think Ingram might have to be the choice there and maybe trade up for a Valentine with the OKC and Heat picks.
Saric is perfect for this type of offense and, to be honest, Simmons would be a bit redundant with Saric. Not saying Saric is the same prospect, but they are both PFs that can initiate the break. I'm not even thinking in terms of ISOs and halfcourt offense.
The main question, which will probably be hastily decided, is the PG position. Need to pass and pass well. That's why I suggested Rondo earlier. Get him with some shooters on the perimeter and run the P&R with Embiid and there's your offense.
Of course, none of this really gels with Brett Brown's philosophy. I mean, we ran uptempo, but Brown's emphasis is defense and this is the antithesis of defense. Luckily we'll have some depth, presumably, next season so we don't run our players to death.
All of this is under the assumption that Colangelo is going to repeat history and try to implement a D'Antoni scheme. Conveniently, we have D'Antoni on our sidelines! Brown must not feel any job security stress at all.
As a Phoenix Suns fan since 1976 and a Jerry Colangelo fan for years, this post is dead on. I am not as impressed with Bryan. He did OK. Nothing spectacular. He does love international players in the draft it seems.
For those of you who think he will trade Okafor? Yes, I think that is what he would do.
For those of you who think Bryan would love Saric? Yes.
Pass first pg a priority? Yes.
You have it pretty well. Good luck.
Yes, JC(Jerry Colangelo)Suns fan has it right. I can understand how Philly fans can feel like he is a snake (but the owner probably brought him in at least to somewhat marginalize Hinkie), and wanting his son as they guy is obviously questionable and should be challenged to some extent, but he did want him as GM as the Suns when he owned them and the guy grew up right around basketball and the NBA from day one.
But I am pretty sure he will emphasize a pass first PG. The Suns had KJ and Nash during their glory years and Kidd for a good stretch. He knows that is important.
Jerry always wanted the team to be competitive. Back in the day there was less of a mentality of "if you can win a championship, it's worthless to be competitive and be a good fun playoff team". I'm kind of still in that mentality, since championships are so hard to come by....even if you have a top 5 player, you still only have a 1 in 5 or 6 chance at winning then....and I watch for entertainment.
The Suns from 88-95 and 04-10 were some of my best years as a sports fan. As an AZ cats fan, they won one championship in 97, which was awesome, but sucked for quite a few years post Lute Olson pre Sean Miller. I would take a fun to watch competitive playoff team that made some deep runs but never won it all, over a franchise that won it all once and sucked for 5 years any day.
I guess what I am trying to say is that those superstars that redefine a franchise MAYBE come around once every 2-3 years at the top of the draft (AD, KAT in the last 5 years...go back 6 if you don't consider Wall franchise changing), and maybe some others who were taken later in the draft break out (Kawhi, Draymond, Marc Gasol). So in the former case...two guys in five or six years, where, even if you had the worst record, you STILL only have a 25% chance of hitting...there are so many other crappy guys at the top of the drafts if you look back, that nothing is a given if you draft high. I can't say I think the top of this draft if franchise defining either, but it does seem like a pretty bid drop off after two.
I am really interested to see what Colangelo does. I don't know that he will rush too much, but he will make moves, and will try to sign some free agents. I think you have enough assets at this point, that building a cohesive team is what needs to happen. I know Colangelo has done pretty well (SSOL team) and fairly bad (Toronto, although the cornerstones of their team there now were guys he brought in or drafted). But there is no evidence at all that Hinkie could build a cohesive team. And I don't know for sure if he had communication issues...I read it everywhere except for these forums, but if he does, that is a problem...take it from me...as a Suns fan I am dealing with McDonough being terrible with communication causing bad situations. Colangelo doesn't have that problem.
OK, long post, and at this point I'm not even entirely sure what my point is, but BC will likely try and make the team as competitive as possible for as long as possible, but he won't sacrifice developing good young prospects to do that either....Amare played a lot immediately, and he was a 9th pick, and Marion picked around the same area played quite a bit immediately...same with Nash, drafted 15th, despite having KJ and Kidd on the roster.
