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Post#181 » by Dell » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:10 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I get the sense that Sexton plays like Russell Westbrook, but might only have Kyrie-level athleticism.

In terms of the PG prospects, I'm leaning Trevon Duval. Dude looks like Derrick Rose on the court. I think he might have more emotional intelligence than Sexton, as well.

The benefits of Fultz having a 6'9" wingspan is that none of these top PGs will be off the table because Markelle has the size to play the 2.


Unless Duval figures out how to shoot the ball, I want nothing to do with him. My #1 (realistic) target for us this year is Lonnie Walker from Miami. Recent reports say he'll be ready to start the season and I think he's the perfect guy to take over the 2 from Redick. Bigtime shooter, good handle, huge defensive upside. Also nice that he's a local kid.
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Post#182 » by No-Man » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:41 am

For Philly I like, Lonnie Walker, Mikal Bridges, Andrew Jones, Bruce Brown, a combination of those would work well.

Walker with the Lakers pick if it's 8th or 9th makes sense to me, then get whoever else with your own, Kurucs or Musa could make sense as well.

As for the more PG types, Sexton is fun but not sure yet what to think of him, if he shoots I am buying, Duval meh, I like Melton but his shooting is a concern, probably better off as a 2, Jaylen Hands is intriguing but I need to see more and Trae Young has talent.
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Post#183 » by No-Man » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:49 am

Dell wrote:Bagley, by far. That's not an insult to Porter -- it's a giant compliment to Bagley.

I got pretty deep into Bagley film when the talk came out that he could be looking to reclassify and in my opinion, he's the best big man prospect since Anthony Davis. That's factoring in Joel's injury, of course.

I think the top of this class has the chance to be special with Bagley included. Bagley, Porter, Ayton and Doncic look to have superstar upside. Bamba could turn into a Gobert-type, Collin Sexton just has that "it" factor, Jaren Jackson and Mitchell Robinson are extremely talented bigs, Rui Hachimura is a MAJOR sleeper right now, Miles Bridges is a safe bet to be a good to very good NBA wing, Isaac Bonga has a fascinating skill set, and I love the Miami pair of Bruce Brown and Lonnie Walker as potential 76ers.

That doesn't even mention Dzanan Musa, Robert Williams, Hamidou Diallo, Mikal Bridges, Wendell Carter, Kevin Knox, Trevon Duval, Troy Brown, Josh Okogie, Nick Richards, Gary Trent Jr, Brandon McCoy, Jarred Vanderbilt, Rodions Kurucs, Billy Preston, Deng Adel, Allonzo Trier, Arnoldas Kulboka, Killian Tillie, Chimeze Metu, De'Anthony Melton, Andrew Jones, Shake Milton, Grayson Allen, Landry Shamet, Justin Jackson, Brian Bowen, Borisa Simanic, Laurynas Birutis, Omari Spellman and a bunch more interesting names.

I'm really excited about what this draft could turn into and thrilled to potentially add two more top 15 or so picks to this team next year.

What do you like about Rui? like he can shoot some and if he committs to play physical he might be a solid stretch 5 option, but I don't think he has the athleticism or motor to play as a Forward.
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Post#184 » by Negrodamus » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:40 am

Bagley looked pretty pedestrian tonight in his stroke and touch around the rim.

Knox looked great all around, but his 3 ball looks a little mechanical to me. He was ripping steals and getting to the line quite a bit.
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Post#185 » by PLO » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:44 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Bagley looked pretty pedestrian tonight in his stroke and touch around the rim.

Knox looked great all around, but his 3 ball looks a little mechanical to me. He was ripping steals and getting to the line quite a bit.


I’ve only seen highlights but the biggest shock to me with Bagley was how un-fluid he was movement wise for a “generational” prospect ; that and he looks very raw in terms of finishing
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Post#186 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:02 pm

If Bagley has a suspect jumper and really only has a 7 foot wingspan (SF length), he's going to have to do phenomenal things on the court to sell me on him being a top prospect.

As of now, in terms of bigs, I much prefer Robert Williams, DeAndre Ayton, Nick Richards and Jaren Jackson, on paper.
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Post#187 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:38 pm

Kobblehead wrote:If Bagley has a suspect jumper and really only has a 7 foot wingspan (SF length), he's going to have to do phenomenal things on the court to sell me on him being a top prospect.

As of now, in terms of bigs, I much prefer Robert Williams, DeAndre Ayton, Nick Richards and Jaren Jackson, on paper.


What about Bamba?
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Post#188 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:44 pm

I'd still prefer Bagley over Bamba.

Unskilled and unathletic aren't great traits, regardless of how freaky the guy's wingspan is.

I need to see Bamba's movement skills on the court this season.
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Post#189 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:26 pm

I have a feeling Knox is going to vault into Top 3 discussion very quickly in the draft process.

Man, I really like him as a prospect.
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Post#190 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:59 pm

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Post#191 » by BoomBap » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:40 pm

Is it just me or does it look like his legs have different skin colors?
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Post#192 » by PLO » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:15 pm

If we're in for Bamba it means our season will have gone drastically off course.
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Post#193 » by cksdayoff » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:41 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I'd still prefer Bagley over Bamba.

Unskilled and unathletic aren't great traits, regardless of how freaky the guy's wingspan is.

I need to see Bamba's movement skills on the court this season.


are you still high on mikal bridges as you were last season?

i think trevon duval is a close friend of markelle fultz too
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Post#194 » by Kobblehead » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:56 pm

cksdayoff wrote:are you still high on mikal bridges as you were last season?

i think trevon duval is a close friend of markelle fultz too

Yes, I absolutely love Bridges. He has been an elite defender and an elite finisher during both of his underclassmen seasons and he's been gradually improving his jumper and body. All while being an athlete with a 7'+ wingspan. Some are concerned about his offensive passivity. To me, that just means he's primed and ready to be an elite level role player in the NBA with no ego.

I'm a fan of Duval during the pre season draft process. His athleticism and lead-guard poise are legitimate. I just hope his shot isn't completely broke. The jumper looked kinda suspect in highlights of that exhibition game.
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Post#195 » by cksdayoff » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:39 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
I'm a fan of Duval during the pre season draft process. His athleticism and lead-guard poise are legitimate. I just hope his shot isn't completely broke. The jumper looked kinda suspect in highlights of that exhibition game.


yeah,that shot is concerning. no one shoots the ball like that in the nba anymore.
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Post#196 » by Negrodamus » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:15 pm



Bamba looks good. Fluid for someone that huge and his shot doesn't look too bad. Looks like he worked on his frame quite a bit too. Texas could be scary this team.
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Post#197 » by Kobblehead » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:49 pm

Looks fluid and a little more skilled than the scouting reports suggested. Could this be a Myles Turner situation?
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Post#198 » by phifans » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:01 am

No love for Luka Doncic ?
Seems like a pretty good fit for our core ...
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Post#199 » by Kobblehead » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:05 pm

phifans wrote:No love for Luka Doncic ?
Seems like a pretty good fit for our core ...

Being 18 years old and averaging 17 a game as a lead distributor in a good ACB league is impressive.

Does he have the athleticism to star against NBA competition?

Is he long enough to defend high caliber NBA wings?

At first glance, he seems slow and below-par, athletically. Wunderkind or not, he strikes me as a wing version of Saric.
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Post#200 » by cksdayoff » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:13 pm

i just cant get around falling for a prospect like doncic. he’s a good shooter and a nice facilitator but he looks pedestrian out there. he doesnt pass the eye test for me, in terms of athleticism.

but then again, what he’s done at a young age is impressive against the best competition in europe.

to me he looks like a high floor, low ceiling prospect
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