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Who do you want us to take at #3?

Ace Bailey
34
45%
V.J. Edgecombe
20
27%
Kon Knueppel
3
4%
Khaman Maluach
1
1%
Tre Johnson
14
19%
Derik Queen
3
4%
 
Total votes: 75

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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#181 » by Kobblehead » Sat Feb 15, 2025 12:57 pm

Arsenal wrote:Yaxel Lendeborg and JT Toppin mocked in our range. Both putting up awesome numbers.

Seems like a lot of good upperclassman candidates.

Yaxel Lendeborg is interesting. Anytime a F is at over 4 assist a game, you know he's got handle and IQ. His size and game reminds of of Boris Diaw.
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Post#182 » by Kobblehead » Sat Feb 15, 2025 1:04 pm

If I had to guess, Derik Queen's real dimensions are 6'8" 270. That's rough for a C.
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Post#183 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:25 pm

Flagg is the clear-cut #1 — no real deficiencies from what I can tell.

My #2 is Harper. He has legit PG capabilities and the size to play next to Maxey. I can see him being the go-to guy on a championship level team.

At #3, Edgecombe is the X factor. Probably the best defender and most explosive of the bunch. Does he have "best player in NBA playoff series" potential? I'm not sure.

Bailey has the scoring ceiling of a TMac/Melo. Probably won't have the playmaking ability of prime George, but there are some comps to be had there as well. I would take him 4th.

We need to get in the top 4. If we land at 5 or 6 then go with Queen if available.
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Post#184 » by Negrodamus » Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:08 pm

I think my board right now is:

Flagg
Queen
Edgecombe
Harper
Fears
Jakucionis
Bailey

With the wildcard of Essengue being worth inserted in there somewhere. I just don't have a good feel on him and his competition.
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Post#185 » by mjkvol » Sat Feb 15, 2025 11:05 pm

Wouldn't this be the most Sixer-ish thing to ever happen if Silver gifted us the 1st pick?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/probable-no-1-pick-cooper-flagg-says-he-wants-to-come-back-next-year-for-duke-but-he-cant-be-serious/

There's next to zero chance of this happening, but it certainly would be a laughing and crying at the same time development. Mik's post would be an all-timer.
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Post#186 » by Negrodamus » Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:20 am

Only way that’ll happen is if a Duke drops $15 mil for one year.
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Post#187 » by Kobblehead » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:18 pm

I think Ace Bailey's absolute floor is Golden State Wiggins. If he develops any playmaking at all, I see him on that Grant Hill/Tracy McGrady level upside. That's worth taking #2, in my opinion. His size, athleticism, scoring skills convince me that his upside is so much higher than his contemporaries in this class, possibly even Flagg's.
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Post#188 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:26 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I think Ace Bailey's absolute floor is Golden State Wiggins. If he develops any playmaking at all, I see him on that Grant Hill/Tracy McGrady level upside. That's worth taking #2, in my opinion. His size, athleticism, scoring skills convince me that his upside is so much higher than his contemporaries in this class, possibly even Flagg's.


I haven't watched a ton of him, but it seems like he's shown flashes of driving and kicking out or feeding his bigs. I see a lot of TMac in his scoring ability as well. His rebounding has also picked up as well, and is on par with Flagg's reb rate.

God please give us a top 4 pick.
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Post#189 » by Eyeamok » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:51 pm

mjkvol wrote:Wouldn't this be the most Sixer-ish thing to ever happen if Silver gifted us the 1st pick?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/probable-no-1-pick-cooper-flagg-says-he-wants-to-come-back-next-year-for-duke-but-he-cant-be-serious/

There's next to zero chance of this happening, but it certainly would be a laughing and crying at the same time development. Mik's post would be an all-timer.


If Duke dropped 15 million, that's more than he would make salary wise in the NBA but as we all know he runs the risk of injury and that would be putting that guaranteed entire NBA rookie contract at risk for what? The college experience!

But if it did happen and the 76ers got the first pick I would be crying too.
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Post#190 » by 76ciology » Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:25 pm

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Post#191 » by Negrodamus » Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:26 pm

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Watched the whole game. Actually came away less impressed than when I watch his highlights. Cooked our shrimpy freshmen in the fourth but felt like offense wasn’t coming easy to him the rest of the game. I don’t think I even have him in my top ten.
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Post#192 » by 76ciology » Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:41 pm

Shorting the Ace Bailey stock again. I’ll check back on him by season’s end, but my focus is on guys we can get at the 6th spot.

Tre Johnson or Derick Queen would be steal for me.
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Post#193 » by Kobblehead » Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:54 pm



McNeeley is constantly in motion. Always on the move, running around screens. He would fit like a glove with our top guys, as a starting SF.
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Post#194 » by Negrodamus » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:05 pm

It's remarkable how bad UConn is when McNeeley isn't hitting. Lost to Seton Hall last night ffs. They are a dumpster fire right now.
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Post#195 » by Negrodamus » Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:59 pm

Thomas Sorber is being so underrated that he's a massive steal sitting in plain sight. I can't understand why he's mocked out of the lottery. He's a freshman putting up great numbers. Might be a little undersized and is not current a threat as an outside shooter, but the upside is definitely there. I would 1000% take him over Malauch who is mocked at 7 right now.
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Post#196 » by Mik317 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:16 am

Negrodamus wrote:Thomas Sorber is being so underrated that he's a massive steal sitting in plain sight. I can't understand why he's mocked out of the lottery. He's a freshman putting up great numbers. Might be a little undersized and is not current a threat as an outside shooter, but the upside is definitely there. I would 1000% take him over Malauch who is mocked at 7 right now.

isn't he like 6'10 with crazy long arms?

that makes up for any lack of height, no?
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Post#197 » by stormi » Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:55 am

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What an anomaly. His handle for that size is just ridiculous. He has real 3 level off the dribble shot creation ability at 6'10.

Whether he has defensive range will ultimate cap whatever level he can eventually reach.
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Post#198 » by Negrodamus » Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:28 am

Mik317 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Thomas Sorber is being so underrated that he's a massive steal sitting in plain sight. I can't understand why he's mocked out of the lottery. He's a freshman putting up great numbers. Might be a little undersized and is not current a threat as an outside shooter, but the upside is definitely there. I would 1000% take him over Malauch who is mocked at 7 right now.

isn't he like 6'10 with crazy long arms?

that makes up for any lack of height, no?


Yea but he appears more like a true C and if he’s actually 6’8 then that will scare teams.
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Post#199 » by stormi » Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:34 am

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stormi wrote:I tried to tap into some Tre Johnson and I wasn't all that impressed, footwork and handles were hideous.

Watched some VJ Edgecombe as well and I'm not exactly sure I see high end ball dominant scoring upside with how he navigates the half court. Oladipo has been thrown around as a comparable which I could definitely see. Just a superior athlete that uses stop-start acceleration to win. Flashes the ability to make upper level reads off the dribble which is encouraging. Allegedly a freak on the defensive end as well. Seems like a target for pick 5 or 6.

Queen though has me blown away. His feel for the game is special.



The commentator might say it in this video, he just makes the game look easy which is one of the simplest benchmarks of high IQ basketball players.



I’ve also been high on Queen. His upside largely depends on his ability to shoot from the perimeter and transition into a four, playing alongside a big who can anchor the defense. Otherwise, we’re looking at a scoring version of Donatas Sabonis.


He's fun to watch, I agree with you in that his projection to the next level will be an intriguing one. Bigs that provide sub-optimal rim protection are inherently net negatives in a playoff setting unless you're counterbalancing that with Jokic level impact on the other end of the floor.

And even Chokic as a true ~7' with a 7'3 wingspan, the proven ability to dominate the glass in high pressurized settings and at least wave his arms to deter drivers at the rim; we've seen teams notoriously hunt his lack of footspeed. Chris Paul specifically in 2021 pulled him into the P&R and violated him over and over again.

I could see that happening with Queen as well if you asked him to man the five constantly. He shoots the FT well for a freshman on notable attempts however so I see no reason why he couldn't eventually develop a three ball.

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Post#200 » by stormi » Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:03 am

76ciology wrote:Shorting the Ace Bailey stock again. I’ll check back on him by season’s end, but my focus is on guys we can get at the 6th spot.


First round picks since 2008 to hit his abysmal benchmarks in passing (<8.5% assist) and scoring efficiency (<.555 TS):

— Damion James
Kosta Koufos
Anthony Randolph
— Larry Sanders
— JaVale McGee

(Freshman bolded)

He actually raised his passing and scoring numbers recently because the last time I checked he was company only shared by Andre Drummond.

He's a small ball five disguised as a wing. I'm not sure he provides anything at a high NBA level outside of rebounding.

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