** Official 2025 Trade Deadline Thread **
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I think the Warriors will eventually make a strong push for Paul George. The fact that they went after Jimmy Butler shows they’re aggressive in adding win-now players. Right now, they’re probably taking their chances on bigger names like KD, but once that door closes, I see them turning to George.
I don’t see much from the Warriors’ young core. Kuminga feels like a pump-and-dump project, Podziemski has been a flop this season, and Moody seems capped as a role player. I wonder if we could land Jimmy Butler and get some assets from the Warriors in the process.
Maybe a three-team trade:
Warriors get Paul George.
Heat get left overs/fillers (GP2? Schroeder?Kyle Anderson? Looney? Hield?), KJ Martin, 2026 OKC first, protected picks from the Warriors
Sixers get Jimmy Butler and Kuminga.
It gives the Warriors their star, the Heat get depth and future assets, and the Sixers get Jimmy while taking a shot at Kuminga’s upside.
I don’t see much from the Warriors’ young core. Kuminga feels like a pump-and-dump project, Podziemski has been a flop this season, and Moody seems capped as a role player. I wonder if we could land Jimmy Butler and get some assets from the Warriors in the process.
Maybe a three-team trade:
Warriors get Paul George.
Heat get left overs/fillers (GP2? Schroeder?Kyle Anderson? Looney? Hield?), KJ Martin, 2026 OKC first, protected picks from the Warriors
Sixers get Jimmy Butler and Kuminga.
It gives the Warriors their star, the Heat get depth and future assets, and the Sixers get Jimmy while taking a shot at Kuminga’s upside.
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I think the only way we get Jimmy is if we agree to a max extension, (not sure we could do that now, not sure if he would believe us if it wasn't officially inked)... and in that scenario I don't really want Jimmy. If we could get him without an extension, try to save this season, and then trade him as an expiring in the summer (with Embiid lol) in a full blow up this summer, I'd be game for that too lol
Don't really want to add picks to move PG for Jimmy (or at all)
if a deal happens with GSW, I wouldn't be surprised if we have to eat Hield tho. Wiggins/Kuminga/Hield/Podz (or moody) for PG/Drummond/Jackson. I'd probably do it still but would of course prefer any of their guys (Anderson/GP3) over Hield.
Don't really want to add picks to move PG for Jimmy (or at all)
if a deal happens with GSW, I wouldn't be surprised if we have to eat Hield tho. Wiggins/Kuminga/Hield/Podz (or moody) for PG/Drummond/Jackson. I'd probably do it still but would of course prefer any of their guys (Anderson/GP3) over Hield.
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Ima need at least one 1st from GS otherwise no thanks. Preferably two.
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JordanMars wrote:call me crazy but i could see morey trying to get durant
LOL i was just about to post this
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Maxey, Durant and Embiid.
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I’m good with PG for Cupcake!
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Getting off the PG contract is the biggest thing we could accomplish at the deadline. We knew there would be a couple of under productive cap clogging years at the second half of his deal, with this season now shot and a decision on Joel coming this summer in one way or another, get us off his contract without taking back bad long term money and I’ll be happy. We tried, it failed, move on and get him to a contender to do the man a solid.
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Just like what i said..
And thats why I think they didnt call us up.
They could have called the Bucks about Giannis, but I’m pretty sure Milwaukee would drag out negotiations to demand more picks. Plus, from what I’ve heard, they want to keep things under wraps.
Just like what i said..
And thats why I think they didnt call us up.
They could have called the Bucks about Giannis, but I’m pretty sure Milwaukee would drag out negotiations to demand more picks. Plus, from what I’ve heard, they want to keep things under wraps.
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People do understand that even if they wanted to move him, Joel is not eligible to be traded before the trade deadline has long passed this year, right?
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76ciology wrote:JordanMars wrote:call me crazy but i could see morey trying to get durant
LOL i was just about to post this
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Maxey, Durant and Embiid.
So what do we need to add to PG to get Durant? I don’t know that I want to throw in the kitchen sink, if Embiid is not 100% in the playoffs we are still sunk with KD.
Question is if PHx wants all the picks… or another star.
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Foshan wrote:76ciology wrote:JordanMars wrote:call me crazy but i could see morey trying to get durant
LOL i was just about to post this
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Maxey, Durant and Embiid.
So what do we need to add to PG to get Durant? I don’t know that I want to throw in the kitchen sink, if Embiid is not 100% in the playoffs we are still sunk with KD.
Question is if PHx wants all the picks… or another star.
No Embiid, Maxey, McCain or Edwards. They can have anyone else plus any of our picks.
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Kuminga is off limits. GS will demand Yabu and Caleb Martin with PG for SLO-MO, Wiggins, Looney, Schroder and Hields plus their Klay trade exception to make the salaries work.Foshan wrote:I think the only way we get Jimmy is if we agree to a max extension, (not sure we could do that now, not sure if he would believe us if it wasn't officially inked)... and in that scenario I don't really want Jimmy. If we could get him without an extension, try to save this season, and then trade him as an expiring in the summer (with Embiid lol) in a full blow up this summer, I'd be game for that too lol
Don't really want to add picks to move PG for Jimmy (or at all)
if a deal happens with GSW, I wouldn't be surprised if we have to eat Hield tho. Wiggins/Kuminga/Hield/Podz (or moody) for PG/Drummond/Jackson. I'd probably do it still but would of course prefer any of their guys (Anderson/GP3) over Hield.
https://youtube.com/shorts/D2hdhF4gJIM?si=q1UyBR2opp398x9d
GS is in the driver seat by taking PG off Morey's hands otherwise we will be stuck with a max PG aka Tobias 2.0 for 4 gruesome seasons.
So is it still worth it to rid PG contract?
https://youtube.com/shorts/kj_4FsM11Qs?si=7tfT6azDUk1Xh8Gr
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WentzerWuver wrote:Kuminga is off limits. GS will demand Yabu and Caleb Martin with PG for SLO-MO, Wiggins, Looney, Schroder and Hields plus their Klay trade exception to make the salaries work.Foshan wrote:I think the only way we get Jimmy is if we agree to a max extension, (not sure we could do that now, not sure if he would believe us if it wasn't officially inked)... and in that scenario I don't really want Jimmy. If we could get him without an extension, try to save this season, and then trade him as an expiring in the summer (with Embiid lol) in a full blow up this summer, I'd be game for that too lol
Don't really want to add picks to move PG for Jimmy (or at all)
if a deal happens with GSW, I wouldn't be surprised if we have to eat Hield tho. Wiggins/Kuminga/Hield/Podz (or moody) for PG/Drummond/Jackson. I'd probably do it still but would of course prefer any of their guys (Anderson/GP3) over Hield.
https://youtube.com/shorts/D2hdhF4gJIM?si=q1UyBR2opp398x9d
GS is in the driver seat by taking PG off Morey's hands otherwise we will be stuck with a max PG aka Tobias 2.0 for 4 gruesome seasons.
So is it still worth it to rid PG contract?
https://youtube.com/shorts/kj_4FsM11Qs?si=7tfT6azDUk1Xh8Gr
You very well may be right.
I was under the impression that there was some tension in regard to signing Kunminga long term to the money he would want.
Hield is a pretty huge negative to any deal he's in
I'm not sure GS is in the drivers seat so much. The additional rumor that ATL may be interested, removes some of their leverage. Also, when our 3 stars have been able to play together, they've been quite good. So it is (IMO) much more likely that Morely doesn't move PG at all (especially added to that is the level of embarrassment Morely would have to eat in such a move that was like what you have listed) I don't see that happening ever.
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Foshan wrote:I think the only way we get Jimmy is if we agree to a max extension, (not sure we could do that now, not sure if he would believe us if it wasn't officially inked)... and in that scenario I don't really want Jimmy. If we could get him without an extension, try to save this season, and then trade him as an expiring in the summer (with Embiid lol) in a full blow up this summer, I'd be game for that too lol
Don't really want to add picks to move PG for Jimmy (or at all)
if a deal happens with GSW, I wouldn't be surprised if we have to eat Hield tho. Wiggins/Kuminga/Hield/Podz (or moody) for PG/Drummond/Jackson. I'd probably do it still but would of course prefer any of their guys (Anderson/GP3) over Hield.
I'd do that deal as well. The one certain thing is I wouldn't give up a single pick in any of these trades, and I'd love to get some back, especially getting back into the 2025 1st round.
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I don't care what they get in return, just trade him please. For anything that's flexible and plays
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WentzerWuver wrote:Kuminga is off limits. GS will demand Yabu and Caleb Martin with PG for SLO-MO, Wiggins, Looney, Schroder and Hields plus their Klay trade exception to make the salaries work.Foshan wrote:I think the only way we get Jimmy is if we agree to a max extension, (not sure we could do that now, not sure if he would believe us if it wasn't officially inked)... and in that scenario I don't really want Jimmy. If we could get him without an extension, try to save this season, and then trade him as an expiring in the summer (with Embiid lol) in a full blow up this summer, I'd be game for that too lol
Don't really want to add picks to move PG for Jimmy (or at all)
if a deal happens with GSW, I wouldn't be surprised if we have to eat Hield tho. Wiggins/Kuminga/Hield/Podz (or moody) for PG/Drummond/Jackson. I'd probably do it still but would of course prefer any of their guys (Anderson/GP3) over Hield.
https://youtube.com/shorts/D2hdhF4gJIM?si=q1UyBR2opp398x9d
GS is in the driver seat by taking PG off Morey's hands otherwise we will be stuck with a max PG aka Tobias 2.0 for 4 gruesome seasons.
So is it still worth it to rid PG contract?
https://youtube.com/shorts/kj_4FsM11Qs?si=7tfT6azDUk1Xh8Gr
If Golden State thinks they're doing you a favor by taking Paul George... then there's no conversation to be had.
I'll keep "Tobias 2.0" as you say and figure it out later. Someone will think of Paul George as an asset at some point. Could even be the Sixers.
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The most important trade the Sixers can make in the next 30 some odd hours is to get their pick back from Oklahoma City.
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Iverson Armband wrote:If they are sellers this deadline, then Embiid needs to be traded this summer as well.
FIFY.
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76ciology wrote:Sixersftw wrote:76ciology wrote:The Luka trade has made me question an existing belief I have about evaluating players—how different sports have unique ranking systems based on how they value certain skills. For example, high school basketball feels like a different sport from college basketball, and college basketball is different from the NBA. And the NBA regular season and the NBA playoffs are essentially two different sports.
In the playoffs, durability and endurance should be valued more, while things like drawing fouls become less impactful. We see this with Embiid—he’s one of the most dominant regular-season players, but in the playoffs, his value drops significantly. With Doncic, it’s harder to judge. He’s led his team to the WCF and the Finals, but maybe that series exposed some flaws. Perhaps Dallas sees his conditioning and physique as long-term concerns and decided to sell high before his value declines further.
I think you're looking for a lesson that really isn't exemplified by Dallas' evaluation, actions, or execution. I'm not here to say that your conclusion on what is more valuable during a regular season vs a playoff run is wrong. It may be, IDK. And it may be the driving factor for Dallas' decision, again, I don't know. However, I can't look at them as a rational actor because you can't come to the observation that Luka's conditioning and physique are long term detriments and then in the same breath say that an oft injured, aging, big man is a more sound solution to abating those concerns. That logic just doesn't make sense.
I’m just trying to find an angle—based on some reports—on why the Mavs made this trade, because it’s still mind-blowing. My theory is that Doncic, like prime Harden in Houston, needs to control the offense all game. The problem is, that style doesn’t hold up in the Finals—he’ll eventually run out of gas. No matter how much talent you put around him, even an All-Star team, he’d still want to run the offense, slack off on defense, and then fade by the third or fourth round.
With AD, the approach is different. He doesn’t need to dominate the ball. You just pair him with another big to share the defensive load, catch lobs, attack mismatches, and hit mid-range jumpers. That kind of game is more sustainable deep into the playoffs, and he’ll still have energy left for the Finals.
But yeah, the biggest question is—if the Mavs wanted a star big who can be reliable in the playoffs, why AD? And why just ask for a first round pick to attach to AD? At the very least, ask for Austin Reeves.
You cannot apply logic to an illogical (league demanded) act.
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If you can get Dyson Daniels as part of a package for Paul George... you do that immediately and without hesitation even if involves taking some bad money. Daniels/Maxey is a decade long backcourt and McCain can develop as the sixth man.