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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#181 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed May 14, 2025 12:23 am

How much would we realistically have to add to Embiid to get Zion + Olynyk? I feel like the ultimate *upside* offseason is Bailey at #3 and an Embiid-Zion swap (2 or 3-team).

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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#182 » by SixthStreet » Wed May 14, 2025 1:21 am

What is Tatum’s trade value? I wonder if the Celtics new ownership would punt on him to get under the aprons.
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Post#183 » by the_process » Wed May 14, 2025 1:53 am

SixthStreet wrote:What is Tatum’s trade value? I wonder if the Celtics new ownership would punt on him to get under the aprons.


I think it would take an excessive package no one would pay.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#184 » by the_process » Wed May 14, 2025 1:53 am

Oubre, Gordon, and 3 to HOU for Jabari and 10
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Post#185 » by 76ciology » Wed May 14, 2025 2:03 am

SixthStreet wrote:What is Tatum’s trade value? I wonder if the Celtics new ownership would punt on him to get under the aprons.


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Post#186 » by PhillyFan11 » Wed May 14, 2025 2:24 am

#3, Oubre, Drummond, and Gordon

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#16, #25, Anthony Black, Goga Bitzade, and Orl ‘27 unprotected 1st
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Post#187 » by 76ciology » Wed May 14, 2025 5:10 am

PhillyFan11 wrote:#3, Oubre, Drummond, and Gordon

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#16, #25, Anthony Black, Goga Bitzade, and Orl ‘27 unprotected 1st


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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#188 » by Wilfried » Wed May 14, 2025 8:59 am

Paul George + #3 for KD + #28 (+ think they will have to add someone like Little or Richards to match this proposal)?

Would Suns do that?
Even if Joel doesn't get back at an All-star level, at least we save ourselves from 2 more PG13 years and get an upgrade at 3/4

Suns get a very nice piece to start building around, still fits with Booker too probably.

Would PHI or PHO do this? Would you?

I'm not so high on our #3 pick for instance, if Bailey was a sure thing, I would take him. Otherwise, we have enough guards so Edgecombe, Fears, Johnson, .. are redundant
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Post#189 » by the_process » Wed May 14, 2025 12:01 pm

Wilfried wrote:Paul George + #3 for KD + #28 (+ think they will have to add someone like Little or Richards to match this proposal)?

Would Suns do that?
Even if Joel doesn't get back at an All-star level, at least we save ourselves from 2 more PG13 years and get an upgrade at 3/4

Suns get a very nice piece to start building around, still fits with Booker too probably.

Would PHI or PHO do this? Would you?

I'm not so high on our #3 pick for instance, if Bailey was a sure thing, I would take him. Otherwise, we have enough guards so Edgecombe, Fears, Johnson, .. are redundant


What about this?

PHI gets KD and 6
PHX gets PG and 18
WSH gets 3

Maybe WSH owes a little more, but this would be the gist of it.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#190 » by Wilfried » Wed May 14, 2025 12:06 pm

the_process wrote:
Wilfried wrote:Paul George + #3 for KD + #28 (+ think they will have to add someone like Little or Richards to match this proposal)?

Would Suns do that?
Even if Joel doesn't get back at an All-star level, at least we save ourselves from 2 more PG13 years and get an upgrade at 3/4

Suns get a very nice piece to start building around, still fits with Booker too probably.

Would PHI or PHO do this? Would you?

I'm not so high on our #3 pick for instance, if Bailey was a sure thing, I would take him. Otherwise, we have enough guards so Edgecombe, Fears, Johnson, .. are redundant


What about this?

PHI gets KD and 6
PHX gets PG and 18
WSH gets 3

Maybe WSH owes a little more, but this would be the gist of it.


Don't think Washington would do that, therefor the gap between #3 and #6 isn't big enough.
And Phoenix would take on a lot of extra money just to get #18
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#191 » by the_process » Wed May 14, 2025 12:20 pm

Wilfried wrote:
the_process wrote:
Wilfried wrote:Paul George + #3 for KD + #28 (+ think they will have to add someone like Little or Richards to match this proposal)?

Would Suns do that?
Even if Joel doesn't get back at an All-star level, at least we save ourselves from 2 more PG13 years and get an upgrade at 3/4

Suns get a very nice piece to start building around, still fits with Booker too probably.

Would PHI or PHO do this? Would you?

I'm not so high on our #3 pick for instance, if Bailey was a sure thing, I would take him. Otherwise, we have enough guards so Edgecombe, Fears, Johnson, .. are redundant


What about this?

PHI gets KD and 6
PHX gets PG and 18
WSH gets 3

Maybe WSH owes a little more, but this would be the gist of it.


Don't think Washington would do that, therefor the gap between #3 and #6 isn't big enough.
And Phoenix would take on a lot of extra money just to get #18


I think WSH absolutely does 6 and 18 for 3.

I wouldn't be interested in paying 3 to get KD, even while dumping PG. But a lesser pick like 18? Sure.

I know everyone thinks this this team is win now, but they are not. Embiid is toast and this team is retooling.

I would say just take Ace... but how does Rutgers have a losing record with two top 3 picks?!?
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#192 » by the_process » Wed May 14, 2025 12:32 pm

MIA gets Durant
PHI gets Wiggins, Smart, and 6
PHX gets PG, 18, and 20
WSH gets Rozier and 3
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#193 » by mjkvol » Wed May 14, 2025 12:52 pm

the_process wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
the_process wrote:
What about this?

PHI gets KD and 6
PHX gets PG and 18
WSH gets 3

Maybe WSH owes a little more, but this would be the gist of it.


Don't think Washington would do that, therefor the gap between #3 and #6 isn't big enough.
And Phoenix would take on a lot of extra money just to get #18


I think WSH absolutely does 6 and 18 for 3.

I wouldn't be interested in paying 3 to get KD, even while dumping PG. But a lesser pick like 18? Sure.

I know everyone thinks this this team is win now, but they are not. Embiid is toast and this team is retooling.

I would say just take Ace... but how does Rutgers have a losing record with two top 3 picks?!?


I have zero interest in anything that continues the charade that the current group can seriously contend and that Embiid will ever be more than a shell of what he was. But moving down three spots while trading George for Durant would certainly make next season more interesting, and still gives us a pick in that second tier after Flagg and Harper, where Kon and Jakucionis are more in play. I would do that trade.

I also have zero interest in picking Bailey, and you give a big reason why. The bust potential is through the roof IMO, and if I'm going to swing for the fences at #3 it would be with Tre or Maluach.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#194 » by Wilfried » Wed May 14, 2025 1:00 pm

mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
Don't think Washington would do that, therefor the gap between #3 and #6 isn't big enough.
And Phoenix would take on a lot of extra money just to get #18


I think WSH absolutely does 6 and 18 for 3.

I wouldn't be interested in paying 3 to get KD, even while dumping PG. But a lesser pick like 18? Sure.

I know everyone thinks this this team is win now, but they are not. Embiid is toast and this team is retooling.

I would say just take Ace... but how does Rutgers have a losing record with two top 3 picks?!?


I have zero interest in anything that continues the charade that the current group can seriously contend and that Embiid will ever be more than a shell of what he was. But moving down three spots while trading George for Durant would certainly make next season more interesting, and still gives us a pick in that second tier after Flagg and Harper, where Kon and Jakucionis are more in play. I would do that trade.

I also have zero interest in picking Bailey, and you give a big reason why. The bust potential is through the roof IMO, and if I'm going to swing for the fences at #3 it would be with Tre or Maluach.


Agree with everything, except the fact that a team Maxey - Grimes - Oubre - KD - Embiid (+ McCain, Bona, Edwards) couldn't be a pretty good team. I don't think Embiid will ever be a MVP-calibre player again, but if he can be on All-star level (so 22 points - 10 rebounds and decent D), he can be very valuable.
Durant is still a great player, George isn't anymore I'm afraid.

And if Embiid really is cooked, at least Durant's contract is off the books after next season and you enought to built back again (even with the albatross contract of Joel on board)
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#195 » by the_process » Wed May 14, 2025 1:14 pm

Wilfried wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
I think WSH absolutely does 6 and 18 for 3.

I wouldn't be interested in paying 3 to get KD, even while dumping PG. But a lesser pick like 18? Sure.

I know everyone thinks this this team is win now, but they are not. Embiid is toast and this team is retooling.

I would say just take Ace... but how does Rutgers have a losing record with two top 3 picks?!?


I have zero interest in anything that continues the charade that the current group can seriously contend and that Embiid will ever be more than a shell of what he was. But moving down three spots while trading George for Durant would certainly make next season more interesting, and still gives us a pick in that second tier after Flagg and Harper, where Kon and Jakucionis are more in play. I would do that trade.

I also have zero interest in picking Bailey, and you give a big reason why. The bust potential is through the roof IMO, and if I'm going to swing for the fences at #3 it would be with Tre or Maluach.


Agree with everything, except the fact that a team Maxey - Grimes - Oubre - KD - Embiid (+ McCain, Bona, Edwards) couldn't be a pretty good team. I don't think Embiid will ever be a MVP-calibre player again, but if he can be on All-star level (so 22 points - 10 rebounds and decent D), he can be very valuable.
Durant is still a great player, George isn't anymore I'm afraid.

And if Embiid really is cooked, at least Durant's contract is off the books after next season and you enough to built back again (even with the albatross contract of Joel on board)


Joel is not interested is taking a step back or becoming a role player to extend his career. Morey even basically said it. If he's not the star, Joel won't play. The idea he's going to be magically healthy is a long shot against all long shots.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#196 » by mjkvol » Wed May 14, 2025 1:21 pm

Wilfried wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
I think WSH absolutely does 6 and 18 for 3.

I wouldn't be interested in paying 3 to get KD, even while dumping PG. But a lesser pick like 18? Sure.

I know everyone thinks this this team is win now, but they are not. Embiid is toast and this team is retooling.

I would say just take Ace... but how does Rutgers have a losing record with two top 3 picks?!?


I have zero interest in anything that continues the charade that the current group can seriously contend and that Embiid will ever be more than a shell of what he was. But moving down three spots while trading George for Durant would certainly make next season more interesting, and still gives us a pick in that second tier after Flagg and Harper, where Kon and Jakucionis are more in play. I would do that trade.

I also have zero interest in picking Bailey, and you give a big reason why. The bust potential is through the roof IMO, and if I'm going to swing for the fences at #3 it would be with Tre or Maluach.


Agree with everything, except the fact that a team Maxey - Grimes - Oubre - KD - Embiid (+ McCain, Bona, Edwards) couldn't be a pretty good team. I don't think Embiid will ever be a MVP-calibre player again, but if he can be on All-star level (so 22 points - 10 rebounds and decent D), he can be very valuable.
Durant is still a great player, George isn't anymore I'm afraid.

And if Embiid really is cooked, at least Durant's contract is off the books after next season and you enought to built back again (even with the albatross contract of Joel on board)


I never said that group couldn't be pretty good, which was my point about it making next season a lot more interesting. I'm only saying it wouldn't be a serious contender because to me it is fantasy that Embiid will ever be healthy enough to be an impactful player over the course of a season, or that he has it in him to become a Duncan-like complimentary player.

I'd do George and #3 for Durant and #6 because it still allows us to pick in that second tier and Durant's deal is a year shorter than George besides him being on another level as a player. I don't see why PHX would make that deal if their only benefit is moving up to #18 and they are stuck with George, but I'm willing to take advantage of another franchise's stupidity.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#197 » by Arsenal » Wed May 14, 2025 1:26 pm

A few trade-down ideas:

#3 to UTA for #5 + #21 - take Tre Johnson at #5

#3 to WSH for #6 + #18 - take Kon Kneuppel or Kasparas Jakucionis at #6

#3 to BKN for #8 + #19 + #26 - take Kasparas Jakucionis or Khaman Maluach at #8

#3 to OKC for #15 + #24 + #44 + our 2026 1st returned - take Noa Essengue or Collin Murray-Boyles at #15
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Post#198 » by Wilfried » Wed May 14, 2025 1:29 pm

mjkvol wrote:
I'd do George and #3 for Durant and #6 because it still allows us to pick in that second tier and Durant's deal is a year shorter than George besides him being on another level as a player. I don't see why PHX would make that deal if their only benefit is moving up to #18 and they are stuck with George, but I'm willing to take advantage of another franchise's stupidity.


Durant's contract is 2 years shorter (or if we think George will decline his 56 million player option), makes a big difference to me.
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Post#199 » by the_process » Wed May 14, 2025 1:39 pm

mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
Don't think Washington would do that, therefor the gap between #3 and #6 isn't big enough.
And Phoenix would take on a lot of extra money just to get #18


I think WSH absolutely does 6 and 18 for 3.

I wouldn't be interested in paying 3 to get KD, even while dumping PG. But a lesser pick like 18? Sure.

I know everyone thinks this this team is win now, but they are not. Embiid is toast and this team is retooling.

I would say just take Ace... but how does Rutgers have a losing record with two top 3 picks?!?


I have zero interest in anything that continues the charade that the current group can seriously contend and that Embiid will ever be more than a shell of what he was. But moving down three spots while trading George for Durant would certainly make next season more interesting, and still gives us a pick in that second tier after Flagg and Harper, where Kon and Jakucionis are more in play. I would do that trade.

I also have zero interest in picking Bailey, and you give a big reason why. The bust potential is through the roof IMO, and if I'm going to swing for the fences at #3 it would be with Tre or Maluach.


Can't take Tre either. He can't defend a tree. The Sixers really need to move down. I need someone to fall in love with Bailey.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#200 » by the_process » Wed May 14, 2025 1:45 pm

Arsenal wrote:A few trade-down ideas:

#3 to UTA for #5 + #21 - take Tre Johnson at #5

#3 to WSH for #6 + #18 - take Kon Kneuppel or Kasparas Jakucionis at #6

#3 to BKN for #8 + #19 + #26 - take Kasparas Jakucionis or Khaman Maluach at #8

#3 to OKC for #15 + #24 + #44 + our 2026 1st returned - take Noa Essengue or Collin Murray-Boyles at #15


BKN has to give back the Sixers 2028 pick too. Might want to discuss using their cap space to dump PG as well.

I'm not super concerned about the 2026 pick. I think the team as is plus a lottery player will win 35-40 games. That's the 12th pick or whatever, with the chance to win a couple play-in games and drop it to 15th.

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