Fantasy Trade Thread

[PhillyFan11]

Maybe I’m underrating Rudy…but am I the only one that thinks that rumor sounds crazy for the Hawks?

Take away John Collins and add 1 of Jalen Johnson or Okongwu and that sounds closer to what I’d trade for Gobert. It’s an obvious upgrade, but I don’t think going from Rudy to Capela is turning the Hawks into serious contenders. Especially not while also losing 2 key pieces from the roster

I think they’re higher on Okongwu than Collins at this point. And Jalen Johnson/Capella/Thybulle objectively isn’t enough. I wouldn’t include #16 at all if I were them.

Obviously I don’t watch their games every night, but I’m confused why the Hawks are so down on Collins. He’s not a star by any means, but seems to be a quality starter with an ideal skill set for a modern stretch 4…and hasn’t turned 25 yet. They extended him already but it’s not crazy $ in nba terms either

And Okongwu has played in 98 games so far and has yet to attempt a 3. Good luck to the Hawks trying to play him and Gobert at the same time.

No way they can be going for a lineup of Trae-Bogdan-Hunter-Okongwu-Gobert…but hopefully they do

[Jailblazers7]

Maybe I’m underrating Rudy…but am I the only one that thinks that rumor sounds crazy for the Hawks?

Take away John Collins and add 1 of Jalen Johnson or Okongwu and that sounds closer to what I’d trade for Gobert. It’s an obvious upgrade, but I don’t think going from Rudy to Capela is turning the Hawks into serious contenders. Especially not while also losing 2 key pieces from the roster

Rudy is a MUCH better defender than Capela and gives them the foundation for a good defense behind Trae Young. Collins has worn out his welcome and had a plantar fascia tear in his foot. Bit of a red flag for someone so reliant on his athleticism.

I don’t love the idea of that trade for the Hawks but don’t hate it either. They need a DPOY level rim protector to be a real contender with Trae Young on the roster.

I agree that the #16 pick is tough to give up but Atlanta needs to consolidate talent into a true difference maker given their depth and lack clear roster direction. I’d push to get a Utah future first to help even the table a bit.

Their lineup would be pretty damn good:

Trae
Bogie/Heurter
Hunter/Gallo
MLE/Jalen Johnson
Gobert

[PhillyFan11]

Maybe I’m underrating Rudy…but am I the only one that thinks that rumor sounds crazy for the Hawks?

Take away John Collins and add 1 of Jalen Johnson or Okongwu and that sounds closer to what I’d trade for Gobert. It’s an obvious upgrade, but I don’t think going from Rudy to Capela is turning the Hawks into serious contenders. Especially not while also losing 2 key pieces from the roster

Rudy is a MUCH better defender than Capela and gives them the foundation for a good defense behind Trae Young. Collins has worn out his welcome and had a plantar fascia tear in his foot. Bit of a red flag for someone so reliant on his athleticism.

I don’t love the idea of that trade for the Hawks but don’t hate it either. They need a DPOY level rim protector to be a real contender with Trae Young on the roster.

I agree that the #16 pick is tough to give up but Atlanta needs to consolidate talent into a true difference maker given their depth and lack clear roster direction. I’d push to get a Utah future first to help even the table a bit.

Their lineup would be pretty damn good:

Trae
Bogie/Heurter
Hunter/Gallo
MLE/Jalen Johnson
Gobert

To each their own, and of course there are a whole bunch of ways to build a successful team…but I look at that lineup and think “shut down Trae and they’ve got nothing.”
I can see trading Collins + assets given their roster, but a defense first 30 year old C certainly wouldn’t be the way I’d go.

[Jailblazers7]

Fair enough, although “stop Trae and they have nothing” is already true of their current team lol. I have no clue what Collins trade market looks like but he’s been rumored to be available for a while and they haven’t received any great offers apparently. It might just be coming to the point where Rudy is the best they can do. But I generally agree that I’d be more patient with their current roster and not chase after an overpaid center.

[PhillyFan11]

Call me crazy but I wouldn’t mind emptying whatever tiny little “war chest” we have to get Collins.
This lineup would be awesome:
Harden
Maxey
Harris
Collins
Embiid

Sixers out: Green, Thybulle, Springer and Niang
Sixers in: Collins

Blazers out: #7 pick
Blazers in: Thybulle, Springer, Jalen Johnson, Niang and #16

Hawks out: Collins, Jalen Johnson and #16
Hawks in: #7 pick and Danny Green

(Disappointed if JRoy doesn’t tell me no within 1 hr)

[Foshan]

I’m not a fan of Collins, I guess I see how he fits our window, I just don’t see him as a happy 4th option. He’s not a happy 2/3 option in Atlanta

[Kobblehead]

I wonder if the Pacers would do some kind of Brogdon/Turner for Harris/Thybulle deal.

Brogdon would be a great get. He's an ultra skilled player with the size to play G or F. Elite personality, as well.

Turner would likely get re-routed to another team (based on his unwillingness/incapability of playing PF) which could net us more assets.

[JRoy]

Call me crazy but I wouldn’t mind emptying whatever tiny little “war chest” we have to get Collins.
This lineup would be awesome:
Harden
Maxey
Harris
Collins
Embiid

Sixers out: Green, Thybulle, Springer and Niang
Sixers in: Collins

Blazers out: #7 pick
Blazers in: Thybulle, Springer, Jalen Johnson, Niang and #16

Hawks out: Collins, Jalen Johnson and #16
Hawks in: #7 pick and Danny Green

(Disappointed if JRoy doesn’t tell me no within 1 hr)

POR respectfully declines, prefer to keep the pick over that handful of bellybutton lint.

[Iverson Armband]

I wonder if the Pacers would do some kind of Brogdon/Turner for Harris/Thybulle deal.

Brogdon would be a great get. He's an ultra skilled player with the size to play G or F. Elite personality, as well.

Turner would likely get re-routed to another team (based on his unwillingness/incapability of playing PF) which could net us more assets.

Lol

[ProcessDoctor]

I wonder if the Pacers would do some kind of Brogdon/Turner for Harris/Thybulle deal.

Brogdon would be a great get. He's an ultra skilled player with the size to play G or F. Elite personality, as well.

Turner would likely get re-routed to another team (based on his unwillingness/incapability of playing PF) which could net us more assets.

I think Brogdan could be a good buy-low candidate. Something like Green + Korkmaz + Thybulle for Brogdan then Prince with MLE.

Harden/Brogdan/Springer
Maxey/Milton/Joe
Prince/Niang/#23
Harris/Reed/Vet min
Embiid/Bassey/Petrusev?

[davesilver]

I wonder if the Pacers would do some kind of Brogdon/Turner for Harris/Thybulle deal.

Brogdon would be a great get. He's an ultra skilled player with the size to play G or F. Elite personality, as well.

Turner would likely get re-routed to another team (based on his unwillingness/incapability of playing PF) which could net us more assets.

I think Brogdan could be a good buy-low candidate. Something like Green + Korkmaz + Thybulle for Brogdan then Prince with MLE.

Harden/Brogdan/Springer
Maxey/Milton/Joe
Prince/Niang/#23
Harris/Reed/Vet min
Embiid/Bassey/Petrusev?

Highly realistic trade that addresses many of our weaknesses. I do think we’d have to throw in a 2nd though

[Negrodamus]

I saw the outline of an interesting trade idea:

Thybulle, Tobi
for
Hayward, PJ Washington

Hornets get younger, better on defense. We get guys that fit pretty well with Harden and don't really need the ball in their hands.

[stormi]

I saw the outline of an interesting trade idea:

Thybulle, Tobi
for
Hayward, PJ Washington

Hornets get younger, better on defense. We get guys that fit pretty well with Harden and don't really need the ball in their hands.

Are we maybe undervaluing our guys here?

I feel like Morey could get proper value on both Tobi and/or Tisse on the open market.

[Jailblazers7]

In a vacuum, I do like PJ & Hayward a lot. But Hayward’s injury history is just too long at this point to trade away Tobias for him after he played his best basketball as a Sixer.

[Negrodamus]

I saw the outline of an interesting trade idea:

Thybulle, Tobi
for
Hayward, PJ Washington

Hornets get younger, better on defense. We get guys that fit pretty well with Harden and don't really need the ball in their hands.

Are we maybe undervaluing our guys here?

I feel like Morey could get proper value on both Tobi and/or Tisse on the open market.

I'm not sure I can even begin to understand what proper value is for Tobias.

Both Washington and Hayward shot more threes than Tobi. Both don't need the ball in their hands to be effective. It was my understanding that Tobias is a negative asset that we desperately need to relieve ourselves of.

And Washington is simply a better prospect than Tisse, by a significant margin, imo. He actually has substantial upside and is a year younger.

[stormi]

I saw the outline of an interesting trade idea:

Thybulle, Tobi
for
Hayward, PJ Washington

Hornets get younger, better on defense. We get guys that fit pretty well with Harden and don't really need the ball in their hands.

Are we maybe undervaluing our guys here?

I feel like Morey could get proper value on both Tobi and/or Tisse on the open market.

I'm not sure I can even begin to understand what proper value is for Tobias.

Both Washington and Hayward shot more threes than Tobi. Both don't need the ball in their hands to be effective. It was my understanding that Tobias is a negative asset that we desperately need to relieve ourselves of.

And Washington is simply a better prospect than Tisse, by a significant margin, imo. He actually has substantial upside and is a year younger.

I feel like we're assuming a lot of risk with this trade here. Thybulle could very well hold more league wide value than either Hornet despite his offensive concerns. He can be marketed as possibly the best perimeter defender in the league, that's covetable.

Teams like the Bulls and the Nuggets have already shown interested in him.

I also think if Brogdon was getting reported by Fischer as a negatively valued asset because of his health, all of that and more has to apply to Hayward. Contrarily I feel like you could upsell Harris as a dependable vet that provides constant production on a good team and only has two years left on his deal.

Maybe it is fair value, I just personally wouldn't do that trade. Not because I don't think the players we're receiving back are good, I just believe Morey could extract something more intriguing.

[Jailblazers7]

Speaking of Denver, I’d be down for a Matisse trade involving Monte Morris or Will Barton. Wouldn’t solve our rebounding or defense issues but takes care of that 3rd ball handler role pretty nicely and we can then focus on using the MLE on defense & rebounding.

Barton
MLE (Boucher maybe?)
#23

That’s actually a pretty nice influx of talent imo.

[youngcrev]

I wonder if the Pacers would do some kind of Brogdon/Turner for Harris/Thybulle deal.

Brogdon would be a great get. He's an ultra skilled player with the size to play G or F. Elite personality, as well.

Turner would likely get re-routed to another team (based on his unwillingness/incapability of playing PF) which could net us more assets.

I think Brogdan could be a good buy-low candidate. Something like Green + Korkmaz + Thybulle for Brogdan then Prince with MLE.

Harden/Brogdan/Springer
Maxey/Milton/Joe
Prince/Niang/#23
Harris/Reed/Vet min
Embiid/Bassey/Petrusev?

If we could get Brogdan for cap filler, that's a good move.

Maxey-Brogdan-Harden-Harris-Embiid is a really good closing lineup.

[smittybanton]

Trade: FRP(#23), Green, Niang, Korkmaz <=> Malcolm Brogdon, SRP (#31) & SRP (#60)

FA1: Danuel House

FA2: Joe Ingles

#31: John Butler Jr.

#60: Collin Gillespie

Tyrese Maxey-James Harden-Matisse Thybulle-Tobias Harris-Joel Embiid

Shake Milton-Malcolm Brogdon-Danuel House-Joe Ingles-Paul Reed

Collin Gillespie-Jaden Springer-Isaiah Joe-John Butler Jr-Charles Bassey

Let's goooo!!!!

[youngcrev]

I kinda wonder if Thybulle/23/filler puts them in Jerami Grant range.

I think he's overrated in general, but at that price he'd be an interesting piece to add to the roster. Could work with Tobias, or could open more trade possiblities with him.